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Evolution or descent with modification?

Discussion in 'Creation & Evolution' started by Aman777, Feb 20, 2019.

  1. Aman777

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    Good. Changeable Science based evolutionary Theory is a false assumption of people who reject God's Truth in Genesis. Just because some changed the definition from changes within kinds over time in a population to the evil word "evolution" does not make it so. The false thinking of men has NO ability to change anything. It's a concept, a man-made idea, which is provably false with no power to change innocent animals into violent reasoning Humans.

    Only to those who follow the changeable half-truths of Science. Most were brain washed as children. It's the only way to get them to believe Satanic Lies.

    Of course not since We are God's children, first made and destined to have dominion or rule over every living creature when Jesus returns. Genesis 1:28

    Some had rather believe a Lie than the Truth. You don't seem to understand that Humans are NOT innocent because we have inherited the intelligence of God. A beautiful thing is teach our babies God's Truth, instead of the fables of men.

    Because it's a Lie and sends many of our children to Hell? I'm sorry, but rejecting God's Truth in favor of mortal man's is not smart for anyone facing Eternity.
     
  2. Aman777

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    Amen, just as force teaching our babies that they are evolved animals doesn't make them animals. IF you would read Genesis, you would see that Adam, the first Human, was changed physically, when he sinned. He lost his image like God and was found in a body of sinful flesh, like animals. Does that mean that Adam evolved from an Ape? No, and Humans will regain our perfect bodies at the Rapture, thanks to Jesus.

    Teaching the Lies of the ToE to little children and thus offending those who believe in Jesus, carries the most severe punishment for Eternity. Mar 9:42 The punishment is so great, I don't like to think about it for anyone. If you want to know what the punishment is, read down two verses.
     
  3. FrumiousBandersnatch

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    There are many different origin and creation myths, none of which have any literal credibility. They're just stories.

    There are no lies in the ToE, just sincere attempts to describe and model the diversity of life and how that diversity came about.

    Your ridiculous threats of punishment are as fanciful as your origin myths.
     
  4. Aman777

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    That's because there is but one God whose Holy Word in Genesis agrees, in every way, with every other discovered Truth of mankind. Faith plus fact equals God's Truth.

    And some false notions that Humans (descendants of Adam) evolved from an innocent animal. They run and hide when you ask them to repeat their foolish notions like changing animals into reasoning Humans. When you show them, Scripturally, scientifically, historically and genetically, that they are wrong, they call you a kook while avoiding to tell us of the magical process by which mindless nature put God's superior intelligence into Apes.

    It's against the rules to threaten and it wasn't me who told you God's Truth, it was Jesus Christ. Mat 18:6 Mar 9:42 Luk 17:2 Repeating it three times in Scripture is not to be ignored. You don't seem to know the difference between threatening and warning someone of their sure fate, according to God Himself.
     
  5. FrumiousBandersnatch

    FrumiousBandersnatch Well-Known Member

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    Meh, whatever.
     
  6. Queller

    Queller I'm where?

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    What would it take to show you that you are wrong? How would we falsify, for instance, your claim that Adam lived with Jesus for 13 billion years?
     
  7. OldWiseGuy

    OldWiseGuy Wake me when it's soup. Supporter

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    Something happened since Adam and Eve; we can't all share the same blood.
     
  8. OldWiseGuy

    OldWiseGuy Wake me when it's soup. Supporter

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    If you are an agnostic (about spiritual things) how can you claim to know about spiritual things?
     
  9. OldWiseGuy

    OldWiseGuy Wake me when it's soup. Supporter

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    Science hasn't presented the evidence that is asked for. We ask them the time and they tell us the weather. :swoon:Or they tell us to go and study evolution, which of course indicates that they are unable to answer the questions.
     
  10. Bungle_Bear

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    You do know that the Bible is not a spiritual thing, don't you?
     
  11. OldWiseGuy

    OldWiseGuy Wake me when it's soup. Supporter

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    Books on health are not 'healthy' either.
     
  12. tas8831

    tas8831 Well-Known Member

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    Had you considered the possibility that what you ask for is nonsensical or irrelevant?
    If I ask you to prove Jesus was a 50-foot tall blue guy, would you be able to do so?
    I would be happy to re-hash some of our exchanges - show me where you asked for evidence and where I did something like you claim.

    I could point out that when you claimed that the aorta/gut sends impulses directly to the larynx to make vocalizations, I explained and rpeesented evidence as to why that is stupid, and your response was to link to a goofy woo site because you hoped it sort of supported your position (which it didn't). Or any number of time syou make absurd evolution-related claims and they were easily debunked - those are times I and others have suggested you read up on the subject.
     
  13. OldWiseGuy

    OldWiseGuy Wake me when it's soup. Supporter

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    What percentage of believers of evolution actually understand it, would you say? Don't you think that they should be studying it first, before us unbelievers study it? They claim to believe it. Make them prove it. Or is their belief, based on faith that it is true sufficient? And isn't that some sort of fallacy that you should be concerned with?
     
  14. Speedwell

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    A significant number, I should think; Most people who don't understand it don't really care about enough about it, one way or the other, to be called "believers."
    Those who wish to dispute the matter are the ones who should be studying it.
    Why should a person who is indifferent to evolution be required to "prove" it?
    How could faith be construed as a logical fallacy?
     
  15. OldWiseGuy

    OldWiseGuy Wake me when it's soup. Supporter

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    I didn't imply that qualification.

    If disbelief from incredulity is a logical fallacy, why isn't belief without knowledge also a fallacy, a false belief?
     
  16. Speedwell

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    Who is "believer" in evolution?
    A person who understands it and accepts it as a scientific theory is accepted? Surely.
    A person who doesn't particularly understand it but does not dispute it because it works as a theory and produces useful results? I don't think I would all such a person a "believer."
    A person who doesn't understand it and doesn't care one way or another because it doesn't affect his life? Definitely not a "believer."
     
  17. OldWiseGuy

    OldWiseGuy Wake me when it's soup. Supporter

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    Interesting point. I don't think most people give either argument much thought. But if one observes closely one would see that most people go about proving the bible to be very true regarding human nature. Can the same be said for evolution?
     
  18. Speedwell

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    Does the Bible provide us with insights into human nature? Of course it does. The theory of evolution? Not so much; but the one is not supposed to be a substitute for the other.
     
  19. OldWiseGuy

    OldWiseGuy Wake me when it's soup. Supporter

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    Your behind the curve on this. Others here insist that every human thought, no matter how nuanced, is the result of evolution.
     
  20. Speedwell

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    LOL! Is that all you've got? A claim that you have no evidence for?
     
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