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Not ALL Manufacturing Can Be Brought Back to America

I agree. the high cost of living in a lot of manufacturing areas in America, and the
lack of affordable housing, are why a lot of manufacturing jobs have gone
overseas.

If America wants to bring the MANUFACTURING of high end silicon chips
back to America, politicians will have to practically overcome these American
deficiencies. This is a national security issue. But it is also a generic problem
that America faces, and must overcome, if it wants to bring manufacturing
back to America.

Simplistic "BullSpeak" that blames the other political party of conspiring to
undercut the American economy, is a smokescreen. America has got to rethink
the foundations of its economy, and this may mean leaving behind the model
of "free trade" that the billionaires like, but that cuts out more and more of
the average middle class from getting college degrees, and advanced high
tech jobs that have employment security.

Agree - it is a complex issue with many parts and problems.

There is enough fault to go around that the political left, the political right, local, state and federal government and big business can all fairly get their share of the blame.

Here is article that talks about the problems TSMC faces in hiring in America.


In short, the article asks. "Why would someone with the degrees TSMC seeks (4year degree + masters in many cases + PHD if you are seeking a higher level role) go to work for TSMC when they can work for a company like Intel who offers better pay, a "kinder" company culture and a far better work/life balance? "

In addition there is the lawsuit TSMC faces over favoritism to Taiwanese employees.


I have to admit, given those hard facts I would pick Intel over TSMC as I am sure most would given the choice.

In addition you have the US college costs of roughly 100k or more for a 4year engineering and probably 60k for the masters to consider. I cannot blame anyone for going for a higher salary, better work / life job.

It is a thorny issue with many components. But, I'll admit that I see news of record company profits and record CEO pay in the billions sometimes and I would how much it would really hurt these big companies to boost the average employee pay a bit?
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Is NOSAS compatible with Amil?

We do have to make sure of our own salvation anyway, to be sure we are changed showing it, and not having responded with error in understanding what is needed for essential faith that would not be superficial faith. There is God and Jesus saves? The enemy knows this and would tremble for that. Knowing this and saying one's self is Christian is such error, that is not the essential faith, though important in it. Those not one of the people with the essential faith, who God secures with salvation and provides what is needed for growth, are ones that would fall away from them and the true gospel... unless they come to awareness or some give that to them that they yet need what is in the essential faith of the gospel, and they will respond rightly for that.
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Was Jesus afraid in the Garden of Gethsemane?

In Gethsemane, Mk 14:

33 He took with him Peter and James and John, and began to be greatly distressed and troubled. 34 And he said to them, “My soul is very sorrowful, even to death. Remain here and watch.”
Those were overwhelming emotions, but fear was not listed.

Parallel account in Mt 26:

37 Taking with him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, he began to be sorrowful and troubled. 38 Then he said to them, “My soul is very sorrowful, even to death; remain here, and watch with me.”
Lk 22:

44 And being in agony he prayed more earnestly; and his sweat became like great drops of blood falling down to the ground.
BDAG ἀγωνία:

apprehensiveness of mind, esp. when faced with impending ills, distress, anguish (anxiety varying in degree of intensity
Jesus was apprehensive but just short of fear.

Was Jesus afraid in the Garden of Gethsemane?

Some scholars think so but I don't. I'd stick to word precision in answering this question.

U.S. bishops sue Trump administration over refugee funding freeze

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) is suing the Trump administration over what the bishops say is an unlawful suspension of funding for refugee programs in the United States.

Upon taking office last month, President Donald Trump issued sweeping executive orders that, among other measures, directed a freeze on foreign assistance funds and grants, with the White House seeking to uproot left-wing initiatives in federally funded programs.

The orders have led to a flurry of legal challenges from advocates and nonprofit groups arguing that the funding freeze is unlawful. Other groups such as Catholic Charities have urged the Trump administration to reconsider the freeze, citing the “crucial care” the funding helps provide.

In their lawsuit, filed on Tuesday in U.S. district court in Washington, D.C., the USCCB notes that it has worked with the U.S. Department of State’s Bureau of Population, Refugees, and Migration for “nearly half a century” in order to assist with refugee resettlement in the U.S.

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Kidney pain

My gallbladder looks healthy despite the stones. I had a really good doctor yesterday, heard a lot of good things about her. There seems to be something else wrong with me and I will have to go for another ultrasound, hopefully soon.
PrYing they get this resolved ASAP. :praying:
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Deceived and Being Deceived

“You, however, have followed my teaching, my conduct, my aim in life, my faith, my patience, my love, my steadfastness, my persecutions and sufferings that happened to me at Antioch, at Iconium, and at Lystra—which persecutions I endured; yet from them all the Lord rescued me. Indeed, all who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, while evil people and impostors will go on from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have firmly believed, knowing from whom you learned it and how from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.” (2 Timothy 3:10-15 ESV)

I believe the Lord Jesus would want me to share here a personal example of such persecution as this from my own experience. And I will state ahead of time that this situation is not necessarily an exact duplicate of Paul’s experience, but that there are similarities and some parallels. For this does have to do with deception and false (misleading) teachings of the Scriptures based on man-made religion and not on the truth of the Scriptures. For many are altering the Scriptures to fit with their own personal preferences.

A few years ago I was watching and listening to another woman’s online (live) Bible studies. This was a person that I knew, so she was not a stranger to me. And I had written her several encouraging responses to some of her Bible studies. But then she misquoted Matthew 7:21-23, primarily verse 21 which says, “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven” (but he who is doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens).

But she changed the wording to say, “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who is in relationship with me.” And this was to fit in with her theology of being saved and on our way to heaven based on a profession of faith in Jesus Christ which is absent of God’s requirements of us that we must die with him to sin and now walk (in conduct) with him in obedience to his commands in daily practice. Sin and disobedience to our Lord, in practice, should no longer be what we do.

Now this woman had thousands of people following her online, but I did not know how many of them were watching her morning devotions. But she was leading them astray by telling them that they could believe in Jesus and be guaranteed heaven when they die but that obedience to God and to his commands is not required of them for salvation because that is works, and we are not saved by our works. It is true - our own fleshly works do not save us, but God requires works as part of us living the salvation he provided.

See: [Matt 7:13-14,21-23; Matt 24:9-14; Lu 9:23-26; Jn 6:44; Jn 8:31-32; Jn 15:1-12; Rom 2:6-8; Rom 6:1-23; Rom 8:24; Rom 11:17-24; Rom 13:11; 1 Co 1:18; 1 Co 15:1-2; Gal 6:7-8; Eph 5:3-6; Col 1:21-23; 2 Tim 1:8-9; 2 Tim 2:10-13; Heb 9:28; Heb 3:6,14-15; 1 Pet 1:5,9; 2 Pet 1:5-11; 2 Pet 2:20-22; 1 Jn 1:5-10; 1 Jn 2:3-6,15-17,24-25; 1 Jn 3:4-10]

So the Lord led me to write to her privately and to ask her just 3 questions: 1. How approachable are you? 2. How committed are you to making certain that what you are teaching the people is the whole counsel of God? 3. Are you open to having your words tested against the Scriptures?

Well, she responded with hostility, and she said she was not approachable and that she is not willing to have her words tested against the Scriptures. Then she got very defensive. She felt that having someone test her words against the Scriptures would be a deterrent and might keep her from saying anything at all. And then I mentioned that we who teach the Scriptures should make ourselves open to have our words tested because we want to be certain that what we are teaching is the truth.

I mentioned that she had misquoted a Scripture which is “a life and death situation” if the people that she teaches believe it wrongly. She responded back by telling me that my “life and death” comment was disturbing to her because comments like that turn people away from teaching and spreading God’s word. She wanted me to just encourage her and she felt that I was rebuking her instead. And then she told me that I should not be the reason someone runs from spreading the word instead of embracing it.

The next morning I sensed that I was to listen to her next devotion, so I did. The passage was from James about confessing our sins one to the other so that we may be healed, and about the prayer of the righteous person. She focused on the subject of prayer and did not talk about confessing our sins one to the other, as I recall. But then she spent about 20 to 25 minutes blasting me, although publicly she did not name me, though she did talk to some people privately about me and she may have named me to them.

She admitted publicly that she is not approachable, and she said that the Scriptures do not say anything about us testing one another and what we teach against the Scriptures, and so she said publicly that she did not want anyone testing her words against the Scriptures. But, in the same sentence, she told them that they could challenge her if they thought she was wrong, but then she went right back to saying that they had better not try testing her words against the Scriptures.

Then she claimed that what she was teaching was straight from the Scriptures and she went off on how we are saved merely by a profession of faith in Jesus and not by works. And since I said nothing of that at all to her, I believed she knew the Scripture she misquoted, and why she misquoted it, that it was because it did not fit in with her “not by works” theology. She was very hostile in what she said about me, and she took a lot of liberties in how she described our conversation. And she was definitely trying to paint herself as the persecuted and me as her persecutor. End of story.

All this came about because I asked her those three questions. But all of us should ask ourselves those 3 questions:

1. How approachable are you?​
2. How committed are you to making certain that what you are teaching the people is the whole counsel of God?​
3. Are you open to having your words tested against the Scriptures?​

For if we are going to be teachers of the Scriptures, or merely those who are sharing the message of the gospel, as we understand it, with others, we should be diligent about making certain that we are teaching the whole counsel of God and not a diluted and altered gospel message which uses Scriptures out of context to support their theologies. And if we teach the truth, and not the lies, and if we confront the lies, we are likely to be persecuted by those who do not accept the gospel that Jesus taught.

Songs in the Night

An Original Work / December 18, 2013
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

“About midnight Paul and Silas were praying and singing hymns to God, and the other prisoners were listening to them.” Acts 16:25 NIV ‘84


Lord, I praise You forevermore.
You, my Savior, I now adore.
Hope in heaven awaiting me,
Because You died at Calvary.

I have been forgiven,
And I’m bound for heaven.
Jesus set me free from
All my sin, I say.
I will praise Him always!

Lord, I love You for all You’ve done:
Overcame death, my vict’ry won!
Jesus saved me, and now I’m free!
I rejoice in His love for me.

I will walk in vict’ry!
My sin is but hist’ry!
I am free to please Him
With my life today.
I will love Him always!

Lord, I thank You for giving me
A new life bought at Calvary.
Loving Jesus, I meet with Him.
Tender mercies now flow within.

Lord, I am so thankful;
Through my Lord, I’m able
To sit at His table;
Fellowship with Him.
I will thank Him always!

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Deceiving and Being Deceived
An Original Work / February 12, 2025
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love
Thank you.
Forgive my disagreement with your assessment but I must also share what I believe Christ would want me to share.

Christ prescribed a method for exposing sin in the body and it did not include providing anonymous “he said, she said” long winded accounts of our various experiences with people who disagree with us.

Not only do such things edify nobody, but they detract from the teachings Christ exhorted us to focus on.

As you may have noticed, they also encourage likeminded copycats with similar experiences and even stumble others into providing surety for things that not only have no value but have not been established by witnesses.

Furthermore, to describe someone’s rejection of your counsel as “persecution” is an exaggeration, revealing a heart we are all prone to, and which the wise will certainly appraise us of at the slightest sign of it. Luke 16.15

But the heart that walks in the rejoicing commanded of us in such circumstances is the one we strive for and hopefully you can agree that such a post does not reveal it. Matthew 5.12.

I think, if you are honest with yourself, you will see that reviling is probably as far as you can go in assessing the response that you received and although that should perhaps not arouse as much rejoicing in you as persecution, it is certainly cause for that, and your post only serves to negate any evidence of that testimony.

I know that if you walk in the truth in spirit and in truth in all things considering the exhortation of Philippians 4.8, you will be unable to write such things for the joy of the reward of your father who sees in secret and who has rewarded you openly.

There are several aspects to our ministry, not limited to evangelisation, edification, confronting sin, encouragement, exhortation and prophecy, but there is no value in, nor any call to provide long “he said, she said” accounts about encounters with anonymous wolves troubling the flock.

Indeed, in the last days when the love of men has grown cold and they refuse to receive sound doctrine, but heap to themselves teachers who teach them what they wish to hear, this site should be overrun with such accounts if the faithful were here and there was any value in such things.

All it does is encourage others who are quick to speak and slow to hear to promote folly and further their errant interpretations of scripture.

Those within gain nothing from such things and the weaker among them are only encouraged to do likewise, while those without are stumbled seeing the division and discord in those whose lives are supposed to be full of joy and unity.

If you consider the teaching of the beatitudes you may see that after Christ gave that sermon there was nothing else that he needed to teach, and why would you expect any different from the son of God? Do you think he would have left there without telling us what we needed to know to become “great in the kingdom of heaven”?

The only reason he had to teach anything else or perform miracles was because we were faithless and loveless and rebellious and unbelieving.

Christ told us what our focus should be and in the days when rebellion is all around you and sin has overrun the body, as the tares overrun a field of wheat after 2000 years, that instruction has become more important than ever before.

Matthew 5:19 NKJV
Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew chapter 5-7.
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MBTI Te Versus Ti Logic

I've been looking more and more into Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI) personaity types lately. Within the MBTI model, each person has a thinking cognitive function which deals with how we apply logic to situations (as opposed to feeling cognitive functions that apply emotion). A person will have either extroverted thinking (Te) or introverted thinking (Ti), which doesn't necessarily match up to whether a person is overall extroverted or introverted. Extroverted thinking looks to outside sources for logic, while introverted thinking develops a personal sense of logic.

But the Te habit of reaching out to society for logic sources got me to thinking about using Youtube and similar sources for arguments about scientific topics here. Now, using online videos as examples or for information is one thing. I'm talking about making arguments via videos. That is, a forum member makes an assertion and points to a video that provides the argument for that statement. That's a typical Te thing to do. Ti thinkers are far more likely to use their personal logic to make an argument and would use a video to present their argument only if it matches their own logic, and they have a hard time expressing the argument themselves.

Bonus Te points for saying that if you disagree with the logic, you should take it up with the person in the video.

This has made me realize that trying to engage some people in a logic argument over a YouTube video isn't going to work. The problem is that the Te thinker is using the logic of the video to judge which of us makes more sense. They don't have a personal sense of logic to judge my criticism of the video. Once the Te thinkers latch onto an outside source, that outside source will always make more sense to them. If they have a highly developed Te function, they'll probably use sources that have a broad consensus in society. But if not, or if they're feeding a strong personal philosophy (due to a highly developed introverted intuitive function) they could conceivably latch onto things like nutty conspiracy theory sites.

Basically, what it comes down to is that if I spot Te thinkers, I can pretty much give up on debating any videos they bring up. It would be pointless. All I can do is point out any misinformation or logical contradictions for casual viewers. Am I looking at this wrong? Keep in mind that I don't want to paint Te as overall a bad thing. Both Te and Ti have their advantages and disadvantages.

Here's a video that doesn't make my argument for me. It's just an example of some differences between Te and Ti.

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I recently reread through this thread, and I just wanted to take a moment to apologize if I came off as ridiculously condescending in how I responded to it a few years ago.

In reflecting upon it and reviewing it, I actually think you made some interesting points that I should mull over more regarding the Te and Ti difference.

That's all I wanted to say. Have a blessed day! :cool:
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Solo Scriptura .

Do you mean Sola Scriptura? Which states the Bible as the sole infallible source of authority for Christian faith and practice?

No, he meant Solo Scriptura.

Solo Scriptura =/= Sola Scriptura.

Sola Scriptura is an historic norm among most Protestant traditions.

Solo Scriptura is very different.

Example: As a Lutheran I subscribe to Sola Scriptura, though in the language of the Lutheran tradition we tend to speak of Scripture as the Norma Normans, Latin for "Unruled Rule" or "Rule that Rules"; Scripture rules over everything in Christian doctrine and practice, and there is no higher rule than Scripture. But we also speak of the Norma Normata, Latin for "Ruled Rule", that is, the norms, or the things we regard as authoritative and important, but which are ruled over by Scripture. The Nicene Creed is authoritative, it is a norm, a rule, a standard for Christianity--to reject the Creed is to reject the Christian faith; but this isn't because the Nicene Creed is the chief authority, rather it's because Scripture is the chief authority and rules over the Nicene Creed.

That is an example of Sola Scriptura in practice.

Solo Scriptura says, "The Nicene Creed isn't the Bible, so I reject it."

Other examples, would be something like this: The Bible does not explicitly command that we have pews in churches, therefore pews are wrong. That would be Solo Scriptura. Sola Scriptura would say whether we have pews or not doesn't matter, Scripture is entirely silent on the issue, and so whether we have pews or seating in our worship spaces or don't really just doesn't matter. It's perfectly fine if a church has pews, and it's perfectly fine if a church doesn't have pews.

"The Bible doesn't mention the word Trinity, so I don't believe in the Trinity" would be yet another example of Solo Scriptura.

Sola Scriptura = traditions are fine, and even good and useful and authoritative when they are in agreement with Scripture, when they are beneficial for the Church, when they aid in Christian worship and Christian practice, when they promote the Gospel, when they promote godly living, etc.

Solo Scriptura = if it's not right there in the Bible explicitly, it's bad and wrong.

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Behold, He comes with clouds; and every eye shall see Him...

Peace in Christ.

The Son of man…the life of Jesus… is to be revealed…..in our mortal bodies. When He appears (in our mortal flesh), we shall appear with Him in glory.

It is the “presence” (Greek: Parousia) of the Son of man that is revealed in us. It shines unto the “west”…to the outside people of the world who are sitting in deep darkness (the “west” where the sun had gone down). They will then “see” the Son of man shining through us and will come to that light as "clouds" of eye witnesses.

Mat 24:27
(27) For as the lightning (bright shining)cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming (PRESENCE) of the Son of man be.

The Son of man has been hidden in the heart of the earth and has not been seen because of the many false prophets who are deceiving His people…leading them astray from the path that leads to the manifestation of His life….and who do not hear the gospel of truth from them…from their “preachers”.

2Co 4:10-11 KJV
(10) Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.

(11) For we which live are alway delivered unto death for Jesus' sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh.

This gospel….the gospel of the glory of the Christ…is NOT irradiating them to this world as they have no understanding of it. This gospel is being hid from their minds as they only deceptively preach for their own earthly necessities. They are "serving" for their own bellies to fill....minding earthly things...and so cannot understand the gospel of truth. They are perishing because of it.

2Co 4:3-5 KJV
(3) But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost (perishing):
(4) In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ (the gospel of the glory of Christ), who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

(5) For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.

The revealing of the Son of man in our mortal bodies is the “treasure in earthen vessels” that we have.

The Light shines in our hearts (which is the sign of the Son of man). It is God’s witness of His Son whom we are to hear speaking to us as He testifies the Scripture of Truth to our hearing ears. The sign of the Son of man personally authenticates the One speaking to us.

We are to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God to shine toward the outside world as we are to be the public “face of Jesus Christ” to it when He is revealed through us.

2Co 4:6-7 KJV
(6) For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

(7) But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

The times of refreshing shall then come from the presence (FACE) of the Lord as we shall manifest Him in our mortal bodies (being glorified in Him) to the people of the outside world who will “see” Him in us and will come to us in His glory which refreshes us.

Act 3:19
(19) Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence (face/visage) of the Lord;

The people of the outside world shall surround us because of Him (the revealed Son of man in our mortal flesh). They will fly to us a “cloud” to us. They will be the “cloud of witnesses” surrounding us as they will “see” Him being revealed through us.

Mar 13:26 KJV
(26) And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.

He comes with clouds (“clouds” of people of this world surrounding us) …..the “cloud of eye witnesses” as very eye shall see Him (His life being made manifest in our mortal flesh.) The unbelievers will see this "cloud"...the effects of His presence upon the people of this world... and will mourn it.

Rev 1:6-7 KJV
(6) And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

(7) Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

But as the Son of man is being revealed to the outside world, the unbelievers in the churches of men will carry on….business as usual. They will not believe in the gospel of truth when they will hear it…and will be shut out from receiving it because of their unbelief.

Mat 24:37-39
(37) But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming (PRESENCE) of the Son of man be.

(38) For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

They know not UNTIL the “flood” of the people of the outside world comes to Him…and they themselves are shut out from receiving His glory and “face”.

(39) And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming (PRESENCE) of the Son of man be.

They will be punished with age-lasting destruction. They will not receive His manifested “face” nor His glory and power in this earth because they will not believe in His testimony of the gospel of truth. They will not receive the love of the truth and be saved.

2Th 1:9-10 KJV
(9) Who shall be punished with everlasting (AGE-LASTING) destruction from the presence (FACE/visage) of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

(10) When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

They will continue on their church business as usual as scoff: where is the promise of His coming (PRESENCE)?

Like Esau, they will not inherit the blessing and will be rejected.

Heb 12:16-17 KJV
(16) Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.

(17) For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.

Rare police cases from 1904 found in thrift shop reveal crimes like drunk horseback riding

Police book showcasing historical crimes discovered in Wyoming​


It is said to not judge a book by its cover and staff at a thrift shop in Casper, Wyoming, can attest to that saying.

While rummaging through donations, staff at the Rescued Treasures Thrift Store with the Wyoming Rescue Mission came across a 315-page, red leather-bound book.

Upon opening the book, the staff at the realized it was a police docket dating back to 1904.

The police docket documented different crimes in Casper, noting the different fines after court costs.

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In Alabama you can still get a DUI on a horse
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Connect the dots...

You maybe liked Biden better?
Oh no, Trump trumps baby killers in my book - at least he does for now. There are already signs of betrayal to the cause there, though, in that he won't support a federal ban on abortion and won't push a law preventing the delivery of the abortion pill through the mail.

Which direction will he ultimately go? Bosom buddies with Musk on one hand and Greg Laurie on the other? And will he turn on other issues like protecting religious freedoms and opposing LGBTQXYZ proselytizing of our children? And will he persist in encouraging hatred of the homeless, the desperate illegal immigrant, social programs to aid seniors and the mentally ill and drug addicts, ect. - ie: the despised and afflicted and weak and poor amongst us - the very ones Jesus came to save?

With Trump's track record, imho, I figure it all hinges on what his advisors tell him will maximize his voting block as the prevailing winds shift. By all appearances he strives ever to bring glory to himself above all. Pretty much the case for all politicians, eh?

Having said all that, I submit to God's lordship to certainly raise up anyone He wishes for his purposes, like He did with King Nebuchadnezzar, for example.

Let's continue to pray for Trump - that he repents and trusts Jesus as Lord and Savior above all - and then champions all policies to align with God's will by actually studying that Bible he waves around.

Or failing that, that the grass on the White house lawn is lush and edible should God "encourage" Trump (like He did Neb'zer) to recognize His sovereignty and live to bring glory to the true God who spared his life - in word and deed.

Gratitude goes a long way with God. Something this idolatrous nation forgot a long, long time ago. The Lord won't delay His judgement indefinitely.

God bless!
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6000 years?

Amen! HalleluYAH! This is totally right according to Scripture as God Has Always Revealed.!
What about the disagreement between Flat Earthers and more common Creationists?

They don't believe in space or the globe because they take scripture more seriously than science or cartography.
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State takes on 'woke' language, introduces bill to ban terms such as 'pregnant person' and 'chestfeeding'

West Virginia is one of the poorest states in the nation, with few good paying jobs, poor education, and lots of drug problems, but at least nobody will be confused about what "chestfeeding" and "womyn" could possibly mean.
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Steven Tyler won’t tour again despite doing charity concert, ex-Guns N’ Roses drummer says

Last August, Aerosmith announced the band would retire from touring after more than 50 years after Tyler injured his larynx while singing onstage​


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It’s sad not to be able to do what you love doing
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Seek God, not Happiness

There is also generally a greater measure in ministry, like how the Holy Spirit ascended on Jesus like a dove before He entered his ministry. We know He was God in the flesh, but this appeared to be a special anointing for ministry.

Sometimes I'm with others and He amps it up. Not always, but at times.

I'm at the point in my life where I have seen enough suffering, and went through much pain for others it is like the pursuit of my happiness seems superficial, even if that happiness is in his presence, something I coveted often in the past. Oh, don't get me wrong, still desire it and love it, but it is not something i constantly chase like in the past. I've even wished myself eternal hell if it could relieve others sufferings.

And you understand as much as any human can understand why Jesus would be willing to come and suffer so for love of Father and us; to be cut off from the presence of God, taking on sin, and the gates of hell for us.

The darkened mind thinks this was some cruel act on Father's behalf. Jesus Himself said He Himself laid down his life and at any time can take it up again.

Thank God I don't have to visit those gates because of Jesus.

So don't take me wrong please. There is so much good and transformation in the presence of God. For me it became something I coveted often and didn't want to leave my God bubble. It became all about me and God had to eventually grow me up.
I should add that when we walk through this path, partaking in his sufferings, we know that as we persevere, our present sufferings is as a light affliction compared to what awaits us.

As I'm sure others know, and the greater intimacy that comes with it.

May take awhile, depending on what He is doing or getting at, but it is there awaiting us.
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