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RileyG · Jan 30, 2025

Michie said:
They believe in the sovereignty of Vatican City.

I will continue to keep all of the American Bishops, priests, deacons, and religious in my prayers. May God add to their number. I'm just being nice.

RileyG · Jan 30, 2025

Hmmm...how does that relate to purgatory?

I'm a little confused.

I immediately think of 2 Maccabees 12:46 when I think of purgatory and the OT.

The Liturgist · Jan 30, 2025

Today is, on the Gregorian Calendar and Revised Julian Calendar used by the Greek and Antiochian Orthodox and most of the OCA, the feast of the Three Holy Hierarchs (St. Basil the Great, St. Gregory the Theologian and St. John Chrysostom) and is January 18th, the Feast of St. Athanasius and St. Cyril of Alexandria on the Julian Calendar (used by the majority of Eastern Orthodox including the Russians, Serbs, Georgians, Belarussians, Latvians, Lithuanians, the some Polish Orthodox, and the Greek Orthodox Church of Jerusalem, and also by all Oriental Orthodox (Armenian, Syriac, Coptic, Ethiopian) in Jerusalem, and by the Coptic Orthodox and Ethiopian and Eritrean Orthodox.

Collectively, these five bishops are the five most important fourth century Orthodox Catholic bishops of the fourth and early fifth centuries, in the Eastern Church (in totality, we must also factor in the Western bishops St. Damasus of Rome, St. Ambrose of Milan, St. Augustine of Hippo and St. Celestine of Rome).

Specifically, it was these five bishops from Alexandria, Antioch and Cappadocia who confronted most directly the problems of Arianism, Nestorianism and in the case of St. John Chrysostom, the abuse of power by the Byzantine emperor and his wife, who had him exiled and death marched.

Of St. Athanasius, the Canon of whom describes Him in an acrostic as “The Boast of Orthodoxy”, there is a hymn at Matins “
Having the helm of the Church entrusted to thee by the providence of God, O Athanasius, as with a scythe thou didst mow down all the spiritually harmful prating of the heretics, cutting them down like weeds; and, watering the seed of the Word, thou didst wisely cultivate it. Thy fiery tongue burned up the confused affinity of Arius and the mingling of Sabellius, and every heretical blasphemy with them, which are boundless evil and absolute ungodliness, O Athanasius.”

The doctrine of these five hierarchs I think is well expressed by these hymns from Great Lent, a Stavrotheotokia (hymns of the Theotokos at the Cross) from the Lenten Triodion, the hymnal and service book used by the Eastern Orthodox during Lent and Holy Week that largely supersedes the Octoechos, the regular hymnal during this period (likewise the Syriac Orthodox have a book called the Fenqitho which supersedes the regular daily office of the Shimo during major feasts)

“When the Ewe saw Thee her Lamb, crucified upon the Tree be tween two thieves, O longsuffering Word, Thy side pierced by a spear, with a mother’s grief she cried: ‘O my Son, what is this strange and fearful mystery? How is God, whom nothing can con tain, confined within a tomb? What words have power to describe these things? Forsake not Thy Mother, my beloved Child.’” (Stavrotheotokion for Wednesday in Tone 1).

“Most glorious art thou, O Virgin Theotokos; we sing thy praises. For through the Cross of thy Son, hell was laid low and death put to death; we who were dead have risen and been granted life, receiving the joy of Paradise that was ours at the beginning. Therefore with thanksgiving we glorify Christ our God, for He is strong and alone rich in mercy.” (The same for Friday in Tone 2)

David Hunter · Jan 30, 2025

1Tonne said:
That looks like an interesting book. What is in it?

My friend put it online as a downloadable PDF... Can You go to Hell … from Church? - What Does the Scripture Say

Let me know your thoughts on it!

I just ordered 50 copies to use when I'm out evangelizing.

Christsfreeservant · Jan 30, 2025

An Original Work / January 30, 2025
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

rebornfree · Jan 30, 2025

Fantine said:
Alaska is a state. Greenland's relationship to Denmark is different.

But I imagine that Alaskans might be upset about the wholesale destruction of their environment that will probably take place. Lots of Alaskans live there because they cherish the environment and nature.

Ditto Greenlanders perhaps?

Trump tried to build a golf course in Scotland and met with local opposition because locals valued their environment. Not everyone wants 'development'.

Kylie · Jan 30, 2025

AV1611VET said:
If you want to claim they're in different layers, knock yourself out.

They are in different layers, and your denial of that won't change that fact.

AV1611VET said:
But I don't agree that the layers represent different times.

Then how is it that the rock layers around the K-T boundary are so neatly separated? Why is the iridium found only in that one layer and not in the layers above or below it?

AV1611VET said:
Those layers co-existed.

Just like a three-layer cakes has three layers, but the layers were all made at the same time.

Can you provide any evidence for this claim?

Pommer · Jan 30, 2025

Landon Caeli said:
It should be a great thread. Unfortunately, we lack good posters on CF. If you're not preaching facts, nobody knows what to do.

...It's actually pathetic.

Goodness knows that I enjoy “fighting-the-good-fight”, but not all of the time.

I have to take (mental) steps to not become a polemicist, (which is necessary and useful in debate forums, but just not the gig that I desire for myself).

Of course this thread would devolve and we’d end up fighting over “which side would get what?”

We have to continue talking about stuff though

essentialsaltes · Jan 30, 2025

Hazelelponi said:
Under Obama we didn't have every Latin American and Mexican Cartel and gang member enter the country illegally either

Says who?

Hazelelponi said:
The people being deported are criminals,

Not that I've seen.

Hazelelponi said:
in most cases so far, pedophiles murders and the like.

I doubt that.

Michie · Jan 30, 2025

As America grapples with the nation’s deadliest commercial airline crash since 2001, after a midair collision between an American Airlines jet and a U.S. Army helicopter left 67 people dead late Wednesday night, pastors across the country are now sharing prayers and other words of comfort as profiles of the victims slowly emerge online.

The city of Wichita, Kansas — from where American Airlines Flight 5342 departed at about 6:20 p.m. with 64 people on board before crashing midair with a Black Hawk helicopter with three soldiers on board near Reagan National Airport — hosted a prayer meeting on Thursday.

The Rev. Ben Staley, pastor of congregational care at Chapel Hill United Methodist Church in Wichita, urged members of his community to “double down on caring for each other.”

Continued below.

6 pastors, Christian leaders react to American Airlines crash with Army helicopter that left 67 dead

As America grapples with the nation s deadliest commercial airline crash since 2001, after a midair collision between an American Airlines jet and an Army helicopter left 67 people dead Wednesday,

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Michie · Jan 30, 2025

President Donald Trump said the victims who lost their lives in the airplane collision outside Ronald Reagan National Airport near Washington Wednesday are in the "warm embrace of a loving God" and seemed to blame the push for diversity, equity and inclusion by the federal government for the tragedy.

Trump addressed reporters at a press conference Thursday, just over 12 hours after a U.S. Army helicopter collided with a commercial jet outside the airport in Arlington, Virginia, across the Potomac River from the nation's capital.

Sixty-seven people are feared dead, including 60 passengers and four crew members on the passenger airplane as well as the three members of the U.S. Armed Forces aboard the helicopter.

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Trump says DC air crash victims are 'in the warm embrace of a loving God,' blames DEI

President Donald Trump said the victims who lost their lives in the airplane collision outside Ronald Reagan National Airport near Washington Wednesday are in the warm embrace of a loving God and

www.christianpost.com

mourningdove~ · Jan 30, 2025

Rescued One said:
I think you're getting an idea of how complex and extra-biblical Mormonism is.

I sure am!
(And none of it sounds much like the true Gospel of Jesus Christ.)

RileyG · Jan 30, 2025

Fantine said:
And as I wrote, Riley, there are right ways and wrong ways to do things. The right way is to find the NGO's who are not following the rules laid down for distributing these funds, defund them, and distribute the money saved among the many, many, many remaining organizations who will follow the rules and use them to help people.

Cutting off the innocent completely and indiscriminately is a very anti-life position.

Fair enough, but I don’t want ANY child to be harmed by a dangerous ideology. I’m in agreement with you.

Take care

dogs4thewin · Jan 30, 2025

Fantine said:
I went to Catholic school for 12 years, and indoctrination was incorporated in all our subjects. And we didn't all turn out well. Sean Hannity went to the same Catholic high school my brother attended.
7 of my 12 year Catholic schooling was pre-Vatican II.
The Catholic schools in my town now are about 20% non-Catholic, mostly affluent. They have to go to Mass, say Catholic prayers, learn Catholic theology.
Is that not indoctrination?
Indoctrination is a values-neutral word.
Militia groups in the hills can indoctrinate their students with violence and hate.
Segregated schools can indoctrinate their students with racism.

I agree by the same token if parents are paying for that then they agree with those values and have no issue with what is taught. A government school that must educate everyone is a little different in that the parents are at best INDIRECTLY choosing it with school choice if a parent wished for someone other than the government (or a particular government school to educate their children money would not be an issue.

essentialsaltes · Jan 30, 2025

Justice Department had discussions about possibly dropping charges against NYC Mayor Adams

The mayor has the backing of Trump, who has claimed Adams was unjustly charged by federal prosecutors and has said he would "take a look" at a pardon for him.

"I think that he was treated pretty unfairly," Trump said of Adams during a press briefing last month.

Richard T · Jan 30, 2025

JST17089 said:
I am wanting to find a single, never married woman on here who is in her 20-40’s to develop a friendship with, chat over the phone with, and become close friends with. Most of the churches that believes the same as me doctrinally or theologically are incredibly small with mostly elderly people, and I don’t like large churches, so finding someone around my age is incredibly difficult. Anyone who would like talk, feel free to message or post on my page. Thank you.

Welcome to the Christian forums. While it is possible you can find someone here, there are of course many decent Christian sites where one can more openly seek a partner. I imagine CF knows fully well that if they opened the boards up to dating, that scammers would emerge in here as one can be anonymous and it is free to post.

essentialsaltes · Jan 30, 2025

essentialsaltes said:
Aw, now I want to change my vote.

Police say FBI agent sexually assaulted 2 women after promise of free tattoos, modeling

I want to change it again.

Mercer Man Stabs Child, Says FBI Told Him To Kill Family, Records Say

While being handcuffed, Bonacci told police that the FBI asked him to kill his family and that there was a note in his pocket to give to the FBI and the news, according to the complaint. Bonacci also told police that someone was after him for his Cryptocurrency.

fide · Jan 30, 2025

Michie said:
I am often amused by my Protestant friends when they, with great excitement and intrigue, say, “Have you heard what the Pope said?” to which, after hearing them out, respond, “I think you care more about the papacy than I do.” Upon hearing this, their faces betray a kind of perplexed, vacant, slack-jawed bewilderment, as though they had been struck by a sudden and incomprehensible revelation, to which they were struggling valiantly to make sense of without much success. For a Catholic papal primacy is vital, but not absolute.

Biblical Basis

The biblical basis for papal primacy is grounded in the Davidic kingdom. King David and his successors ruled with the assistance of twelve other ministers (cf. 1 Kings 4:1ff). One of the twelve was a prime minister who would rule in the absence of the king (cf. Isaiah 22:19–23) and held the king’s authority, symbolized by the keys of the kingdom of David. He was to be called the father of the people of Judah and would become like a peg driven into a firm place; a throne upon which the honor of the house would rest (cf. Is 22:23). This is the Old Testament context for understanding the office of St. Peter found in Matthew 16:18–19, where Jesus builds his Church upon the rock, which is Peter, giving him the keys of the kingdom of heaven to bind and loose. However, in a few verses Peter rebukes Jesus for proclaiming the necessity of the Paschal mystery. Jesus, rather than referring to Peter as the rock upon which the Church has been built, now calls him a stumbling block and satan (cf. Matt 16:23). It is of interest that the Petrine stumbling block in Greek is σκάνδαλον (skandalon). Peter the rock is ambiguous and has the potential of being scandalous.

Continued below.

The Peculiarity of Papal Primacy

Fr. Olek Stirrat explains why papal primacy is vital but not absolute

whatweneednow.substack.com

Very interesting. Reminds me of a blog essay on a site I keep up with - RenewTheChurch.com. The post is titled, and the conclusion shown by the author here, "The Church will Remain; the Papacy Must Fall." Some of the signposts along the way seem similar - the notion of dimensions of the Church in this essay described as Petrine, Jacobian and Johannine/Marian:

We can see two or even three “primacies” in types originating in the Twelve. Jesus shows us a “trinity of primacies” among the Apostles Peter, James and John, gathered in the Transfiguration scene (Mt 17) – window to the Second Coming in Glory. They saw His Glory – and with Him Moses of the Law and Elijah of the pre-Christian prophets. Peter – the type of the petrine dimension in the Church – would have the primacy of governance, the papacy. James, type of the jacobian dimension, the first apostolic martyr, would have the primacy of self-sacrifice in blood after Christ. John – type of the johannine dimension in the Church – has the primacy of divine [agapaō] love – holy supernatural charity – in the Church: John “the Beloved Disciple.”

The author's full conclusion,

Conclusion:
The above shows prophesies from Scripture – the Old and the New Covenants – that reveal God’s faithfulness to His Faithful Ones, the true Church personified in the Blessed Mother Mary. God remains faithful because He cannot deny Himself: Nothing unclean can enter the Kingdom of Heaven. All are called to holiness and the perfection of Charity; thanks be to God for Purgatory. Hence my conclusion: the Church will remain; the papacy will fall.

RileyG · Jan 30, 2025

FireDragon76 said:
I believe you are correct. It's simply a business move based on dollars and cents. DEI initiatives cost extra money, and their usefulness has been questioned by many, not just politicians and culture warriors. I wouldn't trust the Christian post not to put some kind of anti-"woke" spin on it, frankly.

I suspect Target will continue to be a welcoming place for all people, however... that won't change.

I have a coworker with a disability who has been at Target for 24 years. People are allowed to identify as whatever they want, they help out with pride parades, mental health etc.

Only thing is…religious items etc are not be to be worn by employees, which I 100% abide by.

camille70 · Jan 30, 2025

linux.poet said:
But where is the Scripture to support it? The "common good" is an Enlightenment concept that I think goes back to John Locke if I recall correctly.

I'm pretty sure the book of Romans is still a part of the Catholic Bibles, so why aren't you all following Romans 13? Some other Scripture? A part of the Magisterium? I understand that you're angry with the current administration's policy toward migrants, but I'm just trying to figure out how we got here and what is going on.

When Mary was found with child before she had been with Joseph, the law required she be stoned for adultery. Joseph decided not to expose her. BECAUSE HE WAS A RIGHTEOUS MAN, he decided to put her away quietly. So apparently one can not follow the law because that is the JUST thing to do.

I've never opposed deportation. I've opposed inhumane treatment, family separation, lack of due process, violation of international asylum laws, and the general white supremacist demonization of various immigrant populations. The one Trump official, Tom Homan, was mad immigrants knew their rights. That's only a problem if you plan on violating them.

LoricaLady · Jan 30, 2025

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Jan. 30, 2025 | India
Hindu Father Charges Christian Son with Illegal Conversion
[8] prayers in [3] nations have been posted for Chhater Singh.

Chhatar Singh, a schoolteacher in India, placed his faith in Christ in 2002 and has planted churches in seven villages. In 2010, when his mother died, he refused Hindu funeral rituals for her, which turned his father against him. On Jan. 27, 2021, the police arrested Singh and three other Christians on false charges of forced conversion. They spent a month in jail; consequently, Singh was suspended from his school. In July 2024, after Singh's father cut off his inheritance, he filed a criminal complaint against Singh of trying to convert him to Christianity. Read More.
Jan. 30, 2025 | Middle East
Woman Abused After Coming to Faith in Christ
[4] prayers in [2] nations have been posted for Basma.

Basma, who comes from a fervent Muslim family, placed her faith in Christ in 2018. As a result, her husband and brother began to abuse her violently. Eventually, Basma escaped from her family and took her two teenage children, who had also become Christians, with her. Basma said that if her brother and husband find her, they will surely kill her. Basma requests prayer for her son, who feels he cannot trust anyone, and for her daughter, because they live in constant fear that someone will turn them in. Read More.
Jan. 30, 2025 | Yemen
Yemeni Christians Pray for Safety
[4] prayers in [2] nations have been posted for Yemeni Christians.

Amid regional instability, bombs regularly fall in some parts of Yemen, creating a dangerous environment for Christian brothers and sisters. "The situation is not stable for anyone in Yemen," said a front-line worker. "The electricity goes out, and one Christian community heard bombs exploding during a church service." Despite this situation, the worker said the church in Yemen is growing. "Fifteen years ago, it was a dream to find any believers," he said. Read Mor

RamiC · Jan 30, 2025

Grafted In said:
There is much disfunction within members of my family.

Bill

Jesus please repair whatever You see fit to restore of Bill's family, guide his path and mind away from regrets about the past, help Randi to find faith in You, and then show both of them what You can grow and heal for them and others because they have suffered so much.

timothyu · Jan 30, 2025

Akita Suggagaki said:
It is a direct linkage through baptism and teaching with the apostles of Jesus.

Then they should be proclaiming the same Gospel of the Kingdom.

Michie · Jan 30, 2025

Wichita, Kansas, the city from where an American Airlines jet departed Wednesday, with 64 people on board before crashing midair with a U.S. Army helicopter carrying three soldiers near Reagan National Airport, is set to host a community prayer meeting as officials gave up hope of finding survivors Thursday.

“We mourn with all those who have been impacted,” Wichita Mayor Lily Wu said at a press conference Thursday morning as she revealed there were no survivors.

“We do not know yet the final confirmation on all of the individuals who were on that flight, and of course, we will share that information, but not before families have been first contacted,” she added.

Continued below.

Wichita hosts community prayer as officials give up hope on finding survivors in Potomac River crash

Wichita, Kansas, the city from where an American Airlines jet departed Wednesday, with 64 people on board before crashing midair with a U S Army helicopter carrying three soldiers near Reagan

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Michie · Jan 30, 2025

Both President Trump and Vice President Vance voiced their support of the pro-life cause at the Jan. 24 March for Life in Washington.

Despite the arctic chill that enveloped the nation’s capital on Jan. 24, participants in this year’s March for Life were warmed by a spirit of measured optimism.

And the pro-life actions initiated by the newly installed Trump-Vance administration during its first week were a substantial contributor to this positive perspective.

Both President Donald Trump and Vice President JD Vance voiced their full-throated support for the marchers’ pro-life cause. Vance addressed them personally, and in his videotaped remarks Trump declared, “In my second term, we will again stand proudly for families and for life.”

More importantly, the president and vice president’s words were matched by concrete action.

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A Promising Pro-Life Start

EDITORIAL: Both President Trump and Vice President Vance voiced their support of the pro-life cause at the Jan. 24 March for Life in Washington.

www.ncregister.com

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