Stephen3141 said:

You are asserting a couple things.

Could you demonstrate, why you think these assertions are why Zuck
has dropped fact-checking?

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FreeinChrist said:

"The Junk Drawer forum is a place for Christian members to discuss and debate those topics that do not really fit in the other Christian Discussion & Debate forums. These topics would include any news item that may not be current, but is still relevant as a topic for debate; or any other topics (within the boundaries of the sitewide rules) that don't have a relevant link to use as a source of reference, or the link may be considered by some to be unreputable. If the topics would clearly fit in the General Politics, Current News & Events, Christian Philosophy & Ethics, Controversial Christian Theology, etc. forums, they would need to be started in their appropriate forums. No topics about the theology of any religion are allowed in this forum. Theological topics must be started in their appropriate forums."

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Sojourner1 said:

The Deeper Fellowship forum is a place for members to have peaceful, uplifting, encouraging, and safe interactions with fellow believers. The focus of this forum is on the love of Christ and all that He has done for us, giving us access to the Father through Him as we are guided by the Holy Spirit.

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soldier of light said:

Join me in the deeper fellowship forum. Or not. It's up to you my friend.

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Fantine said:

There's a Gospel according to Mr. Rogers, and a Gospel according to Bono, but no matter how many $60 Bibles he sells, i don't there will never be a Gospel according to Trump.

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RDKirk said:

There was no purge.

197 officers in five years?

Heck, there were over 900 general officers at the time and thousands of lower ranking officers. The military loses more than 197 officers in a single month through normal attrition. I've studied that list. It has junior officers, officers who were in no position that would attract presidential attention...and even enlisted men. Apparently whoever complied that list thought "sergeants major" were officers. It would be laughable if people didn't take it seriously.

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RileyG said:

Yup.

What happens in the bedroom should remain private.

Modesty is the best policy.

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Christsfreeservant said:

“Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away. When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways. For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known.” (1 Corinthians 13:8-12 ESV)​

This word “love,” in this context, is “agapē love,” which in some contexts can mean merely “to prefer,” such as in the context of 1 John 2:15-17 where we are told not to “agapate” (love, prefer) the world – the lusts of the flesh and of the eyes, and the pride of life. But in the context of 1 Corinthians 13, the word love (agapē) refers to divine love, and it means to prefer what God prefers, which is what is holy, righteous, morally pure, upright, and faithful.

In this context this is referring to an unselfish and self-sacrificial kind of love like the love that Jesus Christ had for us when he left his throne in heaven, came to the earth, and took on a human body, and suffered like we suffer, and was put to death on a cross by those who hated him, who refused to believe in him. But in his death he put our sins to death with him so that we might now die with him to sin and walk in obedience to his commands.

And (agapē, divine love) never ends because God is love and he has no beginning and no end. He and the love that he has for us who love him will never cease. But spiritual gifts, which are of the Spirit, and given to us by the Spirit, will one day cease, when Jesus comes back for his faithful ones to take us to be with him for eternity. For spiritual gifts are for us now, while we live on the earth, but once we are with Jesus, they will not be needed.

Right now they are given to us by God so that we might use these gifts of the Spirit to encourage and to help strengthen our fellow believers in Christ in their walks of faith, and so that they might encourage us, too. But they are temporary and they are somewhat limited because they are in us people who are clay in the Potter’s hands being molded into his likeness, which is a work in progress which won’t be finished until Jesus takes us home.

So we don’t know everything perfectly, but we should always be learning. We know in part, and we prophesy (proclaim God’s word, preach the gospel) in part. And now we see in a mirror dimly, but one day we will see Jesus face to face when he takes us who love and obey him to be with him for eternity. And then we will know fully because we will no longer live in these flesh bodies with these finite minds, but we will be in our glorified bodies.

In the meanwhile, while we still live on this earth, in these human bodies, we should be aiming toward spiritual maturity and we should no longer be living as spiritual infants. We should not behave as we did when we were children. We should not be selfish and wanting our own way. We should not be childish and self-indulgent, irresponsible, and foolish. But we should now follow our Lord in walks of obedience to his commands in holy living.

Now when it says, “but when the perfect comes,” I believe this is speaking of the return of Christ (the perfect) for his faithful followers (his bride). Then, and then only, will our salvation be complete and our marriage to Christ spiritually consummated. So, while we wait for him we are to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and we are to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives for the glory of God, in the power of God, and for his service.

So, the Scriptures teach us that faith in Jesus Christ, which is genuine, dies with Christ to sin, not just once, but daily, and walks (in conduct) in obedience to his commands, in his power. But if we hold on to living in sin, and not in walks of obedience to our Lord, we will not have salvation from sin nor eternal life with God. For not everyone who professes Jesus as Lord will enter God’s heaven, but the one DOING the will of God the Father.

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 1:12-13; John 6:44; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 2:6-8; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; Romans 12:1-2; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 5:16-21; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-13; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:5-10; 1 John 2:3-6; 1 John 3:4-10]

Love Must Be Genuine

An Original Work / October 22, 2013
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love
Based off Romans 12:9-21

Love must be genuine.
Hate what’s evil; cling to good.
Love each other with affection.
Show respect for ev’ryone.
Never lack in your zeal.
Serve the Lord with diligence.

Rejoice in steadfast hope.
In affliction, patient be.
Keep on praying; share with others.
Practice hospitality.
Bless those who persecute.
Feel with others sympathy.

Be not filled with conceit.
Daily sit at Jesus’ feet.
Live in harmony with others.
Live at peace with ev’ryone.
Repay not to someone
With the evil he begot.

Do not take your revenge;
Leave it to the wrath of God.
If your enemy is thirsty,
Give to him something to drink.
Do what’s right for mankind.
Evil: overcome with good.

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But Then Face to Face
An Original Work / February 10, 2025
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

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• New International Version (NIV): "And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel."
• New Living Translation (NLT): "And I will cause hostility between you and the woman, and between your offspring and her offspring. He will strike your head, and you will strike his heel."
• English Standard Version (ESV): "I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and her offspring; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel."
• Berean Study Bible (BSB): "And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed. He will crush your head, and you will strike his heel."
• New American Standard Bible (NASB): "And I will make enemies Of you and the woman, And of your offspring and her Descendant; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise Him on the heel."
• NASB 1995 (NASB95): "And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel."
• NASB 1977 (NASB77): "And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel."
• Amplified Bible (AMP): "And I will put enmity (open hostility) Between you and the woman, And between your seed (offspring) and her Seed; He shall [fatally] bruise your head, And you shall [only] bruise His heel."
• Christian Standard Bible (CSB): "I will put hostility between you and the woman, and between your offspring and her offspring. He will strike your head, and you will strike his heel."
• Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB): "I will put hostility between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed. He will strike your head, and you will strike his heel."
• Contemporary English Version (CEV): "You and this woman will hate each other; your descendants and hers will always be enemies. One of hers will strike you on the head, and you will strike him on the heel."
• Good News Translation (GNT): "I will make you and the woman hate each other; her offspring and yours will always be enemies. Her offspring will crush your head, and you will bite her offspring's heel."
• GOD'S WORD® Translation (GW): "I will make you and the woman hostile toward each other. I will make your descendants and her descendant hostile toward each other. He will crush your head, and you will bruise his heel."
• International Standard Version] (ISV): "I'll place hostility between you and the woman, between your offspring and her offspring. He'll strike you on the head, and you'll strike him on the heel."
• NET Bible (NET): "And I will put hostility between you and the woman and between your offspring and her offspring; her offspring will attack your head, and you will attack her offspring's heel."
• King James Bible (KJV): "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel."
• New King James Version (NKJV): "And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel."
• King James 2000 Bible (KJ2000): "And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel."
• New Heart English Bible (NHEB): "I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and her offspring. He will bruise your head, and you will bruise his heel."
• World English Bible (WEB): "I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and her offspring. He will bruise your head, and you will bruise his heel."
• American King James Version (AKJV): "And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; it shall bruise your head, andyou shall bruise his heel."
• American Standard Version (ASV): "and I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed: he shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel."
• A Faithful Version (AFV): "And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed; He will bruise your head, and you shall bruise His heel."
• Darby Bible Translation (DBT): "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; he shall crush thy head, and thou shalt crush his heel."
• English Revised Version (ERV): "and I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed: it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel."
• Webster's Bible Translation (WBT): "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed: it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel."
• Geneva Bible of 1587 (GEN): "I wil also put enimitie betweene thee and the woman, and betweene thy seede & her seede. He shall breake thine head, and thou shalt bruise his heele."
• Bishops' Bible of 1568 (BB): "I wyll also put enmitie betweene thee & the woman, betweene thy seede and her seede: and it shall treade downe thy head, and thou shalt treade vpon his heele."
• Coverdale Bible of 1535 (COV): "And I wyll put enemyte betwene the and the woman, and betwene yi sede and hir sede. The same shal treade downe thy heade, and thou shalt treade him on the hele."
• Tyndale Bible of 1526 (TYN): "Morover I will put hatred betwene the and the woman and betwene thy seed and hyr seed. And that seed shall tread the on the heed ad thou shalt tread hit on the hele."
• Literal Standard Version (LSV): "and I put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed; He bruises your head, and you bruise His heel."
• Young's Literal Translation (YLT): "and enmity I put between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; he doth bruise thee -- the head, and thou dost bruise him -- the heel."
• Smith's Literal Translation (SLT): "And I will put enmity between thee and between the woman, and between thy seed and between her seed; it shall lie in wait for thee as to the head, and thou shalt lie in wait for him as to the heel."
• Peshitta Holy Bible Translated (PHBT): "And I shall put hatred between you and the Woman, and between your seed and her seed. He shall tread upon your head and you will strike him in his heel."
• JPS Tanakh 1917 (JPS): "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; they shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise their heel."
• Brenton Septuagint Translation (LXX): "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman and between thy seed and her seed, he shall watch against thy head, and thou shalt watch against his heel."
• Lamsa Bible (LAM): "And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your posterity and her posterity; her posterity shall tread your head under foot, and you shall strike him in his heel."
• Catholic Public Domain Version (CPDV): "I will put enmities between you and the woman, between your offspring and her offspring. She will crush your head, and you will lie in wait for her heel."
• Wycliffe Bible (WV): "Y schal sette enemytees bitwixe thee and the womman, and bitwixe thi seed and hir seed; sche schal breke thin heed, and thou schalt sette aspies to hir heele."

Christsfreeservant said:

In the English language the same word can be used to mean more than one thing depending upon the context. In the context of 1 Corinthians 13, which is the subject matter here, the word love (agape) is speaking of a love which centers in moral preference and is as is described for us in 1 Corinthians 13. The same word can also mean merely to prefer, to take pleasure in, to long for, which is how it is used in the passage of Scripture in 1 John 2:15-17, where it is talking about us not taking pleasure in and longing for and preferring the world - the desires of the eyes and of the flesh and the pride of life. The context of the passage where the word is used is what gives us the context of how the word is being used. The Pharisees did not love with 1 Corinthians 13 love, but they did prefer and they did take pleasure in, and they did long for the best seats in the house. But that is not the context of 1 Corinthians 13. They were not loving with the love of God, which comes from God, and which prefers what God prefers, which is the context of 1 Corinthians 13, which was my point of reference in my comment back to you. So, if you have agape love, in the context of 1 Corinthians 13, it is not going to lead you to love the wrong things nor will it lead us to do what is evil in the sight of God. God's love does not lead us to do what is wrong or what is evil. If we are loving with the love of God, we will do what is right. And that is the point.

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Michie said:

The Church of England has officially affirmed that non-alcoholic wine and gluten-free bread cannot be used as substitutes when taking communion after clergy asked to end the "injustice" to those unable to consume wheat flour or alcohol.

Ahead of the General Synod taking place in London this week, the denomination's leadership reiterated that the bread used in the sacrament must be made from wheat flour, and wine must be the fermented juice of the grape in order to be consecrated, The Telegraph reported.

While alternatives made from rice or potato flour are not permitted, wheat flour can be processed to remove most gluten, and alcohol can be extracted after fermentation, though some residue remains, according to the documents.

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Church of England bans non-alcoholic wine, gluten-free bread from communion: 'injustice'

The Church of England has officially affirmed that non-alcoholic wine and gluten-free bread cannot be used as substitutes when taking communion after clergy asked to end the injustice to those unable

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Fantine said:

And Trump, who the Hamas leader said was "ignorant" of the Palestinian history, has typically sowed hate and division into the situation.

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Vambram said:

I was raised in a family that played, watched, and loved sports....... and we still do!!!

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com7fy8 said:

Here, I intend to share an experience. But this is for discussing how spiritual formation and discipline can be good for a medical situation in which I am involved. This is not a request for prayer or advice, but so we can talk about spiritual formation and discipline in relation to this example.

I am 77 years old and have been able to ride a bike and help others. Then while I was walking on Tuesday feeling totally usual, all of a sudden I discovered myself lying on the sidewalk. Two men asked if I was all right. There had been no warning signs that I remember, just that I was walking, then lying on the ground.

I went to ER and had a head scan and EKG, showing nothing and I walked home.

My intent here is to share how my spiritual preparation for older age and ongoing discipline has affected how this is going for me.

As soon as I found myself on the ground, I was praying for God to have me do exactly what He wanted. I did not react and get afraid. And I treated the medical people with hospitality and appreciation, since Jesus wants us to love everyone.

I started crying at the ambulance place before going to the ER. I found that to be strange; but I appreciate how now I can cry in front of other people, since I used to be a bully and cruel to women. So, I like being sensitive now.

It could be my old man flesh was crying because I could not boast being independent while knowing at any moment I could be doing anything and black out and drop.

But trust God, in any case.

The day after, the injuries were much more clear > my tailbone was the most sore. And my front neck muscles were surprising unable to lift my head from a pillow > I guess, if I dropped on my tailbone, then my head whip-lashed to strain my front neck muscles. And then I tipped over and my head took a bump . . . but after I had been lowered and hit my tailbone first. So, right while my tail and neck were getting in more obvious difficulty, my head was already not feeling pain on that next day.

Now it's mainly my tailbone, Monday, almost a week after.

So, it might be like I have aged twenty years. I've been wobbling somewhat and feeling a little shell-shocked.

And I got on my knees so I could avoid bending to find a medicine for someone else. And a sweet worker came to ask if I needed help. So, goodbye to independence, and hello to someone loving me and getting blessed helping me!

Part of our love discipline is to let people do things for us so they get blessed loving and might get rewarded. Of course, I understand, we need to do this as God guides and times things.

And even before this I have been advising myself and others, that older age is when we can become more mature in Jesus and loving; and so this can be the most special love time of our lives with God and one another - - no matter what is happening to our bodies.

"My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness." (in 2 Corinthians 12:9)

Our Apostle Paul was told this after he had been going through his "thorn in the flesh" thing > 2 Corinthians 12:7-15.

I see that Paul's thorn was impossible for him to handle on his own. And I see a connection for me > having a blackout, and the medical people don't know why and here I am not knowing at any moment if I will find myself on the ground, "unannounced" . . . while our dog has been losing a lot of weight and now has just stopped spitting up anything, for a while maybe. And my sweetie needs my help. The dog started, right when it was time for church; so, yeah I would say things can be deliberate and timed . . . thorn stuff.

So . . . God takes care of the impossible stuff. Just do what He has us doing and enjoy however we can love.

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