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Ok North Dakota, do you think it will pass?

Jesus said his kingdom is not of this world.
God wants us to prosper by honoring principles like peace, justice.
I would tell ND to honor the Native American tribes and their sacred spaces. Co-exist peaceably.
Honor your farmers and treat them fairly.
Well said, sister.

This also applies to the native tribes in SD.
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Widowed nuns?



I thought St. Maria was a widow but she was divorced although her ex ( 2nd) husband supported her monastic decision.
Thanks!
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Gambling and prayer?

Gambling is prohibited by proxy in the Bible
Gambling as we have it today is foreign to the NT. Gambling today is based upon probability theory developed in the 17th Century.

Casting lots in the NT was a way to determine God's will.

However you quite right in pointing out about gambling today.....

The Bible teaches self-control in Ephesians 5:18, Galatians 5:22-23, Titus 2:11-12, and 1 Peter 5:8. Gambling can lead to compulsive behavior and a loss of control. Also, the Bible warns against greed in 1 Timothy 6:9-10, and the Tenth Commandment prohibits covetousness.
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Are We Able to Have Our Own Debate Sub-forum?

I could've sworn there used to be one way back in the day. Am I wrong? If there ever was I figured it was closed because rules weren't being followed and rather than honorable debate it just turned into a junior General Theology sub.
I don't remember one.
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Icon repair question

plastic laminate was originally heat bonded, so try putting a couple of layers of baking paper on top then go over the edges with an iron.
We've put most of our icon prints in picture frames so we've never had this.
Heat bonded, I never realized. Very interesting. Thanks!
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All His sheep

His sheep are from all areas of the world, including the desperate asylum seekers that fled violence to come to America, and including the undocumented:

"The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God."

-- The Lord God, speaking to Moses for all to learn His Good laws
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31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”


-- Christ the Lord, speaking to us all who want to be able to enter heaven
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Jesus wept multiple times

John 11:

35 Jesus wept.
wept.
Ἐδάκρυσεν (Edakrysen)
Verb - Aorist Indicative Active - 3rd Person Singular
Strong's Greek 1145: To shed tears, weep. From dakru; to shed tears.

Jesus wept quietly on the occasion of Lazarus' death.

Elsewhere in Luke 19:

41 As he approached Jerusalem and saw the city, he wept over it
He wept
ἔκλαυσεν (eklausen)
Verb - Aorist Indicative Active - 3rd Person Singular
Strong's Greek 2799: To weep, weep for, mourn, lament. Of uncertain affinity; to sob, i.e. Wail aloud.

Jesus wept aloud for the Holy City and the Jews.

Hebrews 5:

7 During the days of Jesus' life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission.
Unlike today's cinematic tough heroes, Jesus wasn't afraid to shed tears on multiple occasions.

Was it a common thing that happened to people in general at that time?

Jesus arrives at the scene where a girl has died in Matthew 9:23, Young's Literal Translation:

And Jesus having come to the house of the ruler, and having seen the minstrels and the multitude making tumult
Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers

Minstrels are there, with a crowd of real or hired mourners, raising their wailing cries.
It was customary to hire professional musicians and mourners on such occasions. Yes, in those days, people mourned publicly with loud sounds. It was a way to cope with the loss of a loved one and reduce the pain of the heart. When your heart is broken, mourn. You will feel better.

Is it a sin for a woman to show off her beauty and appearance?

I think we all have various trials, key is just to keep hanging onto Christ.

I don't think we are meant to be without the trials, but rather, to allow the trials to shape us into something we can be that is better.
I agree
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Full Comprehension Of Christ

Yes to be rooted and grounded in God's love so we experience the love of Jesus and share with God in His own fullness and goodness which is in this love >

"Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us." (Romans 5:5)

This is what God does with us; so Paul therefore

***prays***

this for us.

And yet > God makes this happen. But He includes us in ministering this. He has used Paul and He uses our prayer, also, plus God has us doing things which minister His grace.

In Ephesians, after Paul has prayed for us to be rooted and growing in God's own love having His own goodness and personal sharing with Him, Paul also tells us things to do so we are growing and loving and sharing as God's family in this caring and sharing love. Among other things >

"nor give place to the devil." (Ephesians 4:27)

If we are *ready* to be unforgiving, our readiness is place for the devil!!

This is one example of what can help us grow in Jesus > how we do not have anything even *ready* for what is wrong.

And in case we even start to get the wrong way . . . trust God to get rid of that, right away, so we can be loving, instead >

"Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamor, and evil speaking be put away from you, with all malice. And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God in Christ forgave you." (Ephesians 4:31-32)
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Is “This Too Shall Pass” in the Bible?

The phrase “this too shall pass” is often used to describe the impermanence of life and the need for longanimity in the face of suffering. Many people simply assume that the phrase comes from Sacred Scripture, but in fact it appears nowhere in the Bible. So where does it come from?

At first glance, the phrase sounds like it could be an aphorism from the ancient Greek philosopher Heraclitus, who believed the world to be in a state of constant flux. “You can’t step into the same river twice,” he said. Despite the similarities, however, the phrase “this too shall pass” is not found in the writings of Heraclitus.

Instead, many etymologists suspect the phrase was invented by medieval Persian poets belonging to a mystical branch of Islam called Sufism. It is interesting to note, however, that Jewish folklore also contains stories suggesting that the phrase originated with King Solomon.

In terms of its English usage, the phrase has been a part of our language since at least the mid-1800s. In 1852, for example, the English poet Edward FitzGerald wrote a story called Solomon’s Seal, based on some Persian fables he had been reading. In his story, FitzGerald describes how King Solomon was asked to devise a phrase which would always hold true, in good times and bad. In response, the King supplied the adage, “This too will pass away.”

While the Bible never records this event taking place, the phrase does fit nicely with a famous set of verses from Ecclesiastes 3, which are traditionally attributed to King Solomon: “For everything there is a season, and a time for every matter under heaven . . . a time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance” (Eccles 3:1,4).

Biblical Parallels

Continued below.
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