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Another jesus. Another gospel.
- Sabbath and The Law
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Ok thanks for sharing.Hi Maria Billingsley,
Here we go. Instead of just letting the text read the way I just quoted it, you just put your own twist on it in order to make it more align with your aberrant belief.
Yikes! It's just fascinating how some false teachers are so willing to overtly manipulate the Bible to make it say things completely opposite to what it clearly says and means. On discussion forums, icy this a lot. In your case you not only REJECTED Paul's completely OPPOSITE version of Jesus's relation to the law, you leaned into your previous FALSE TEACHING and added more of the same to make it doubly heretical. "Born INTO it"? Why can't you just let the Bible say what it says? Why? Because a plain reading of the Scriptures doesn't allow you to lovingly embrace your heretical teaching.
- Paul says Jesus was, "born under the law."
- Maria says Jesus was, "above the law though BORN INTO IT."
Maybe this might seem like a plausible explanation for those who are not well-versed in their knowledge of the Scriptures. My feeling is that the way you just rejected Paul's clear statement above in favor of the contradictory nonsense you spouted after being corrected gives me the impression that you're already aware that what you're promoting is a false teaching. Thus, my responses to you are mainly for those lurkers who may not have a good response to how to rebut your heresy, even though they know it's heresy when they read it.
Certainly Jesus was sinless (although there's a current thread on this forum in which "Christians" are making Jesus into a sinner because they claim He transgressed the Sabbath law He was "born under."). So, here's my response to your premise that the law was made for sinners and thus it doesn't apply to Jesus.
So, according to your precarious premise, why is it that our perfect, sinless Savior needed to be baptized? Was He a sinner who needed to repent? According to you, that's the only possible option if we read the passage exactly how it's written.
- First, Jesus was "fully human in every way."
- Second, Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist.
- Third, "John’s baptism was a baptism of repentance."
I pray this helps.
But for the grace of God go I,cyspark
Be blessed.
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Tear Off the Roof by Brandon Lake
- By AlexB23
- Christian Music
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Brandon Lake is a good artist. I might have heard this one recently.
Chris Tomlin and Brandon Lake can bring tears to anyone who is Christian. By the way, the song was released around the time of the start of the Israel-Hamas war.
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Anatomy of a 'conspiracy loop': Do we need a new way of looking at the spread of fake claims?
- By BobRyan
- General Politics
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In US politics, conspiracies are rife – and many more emerged in the wake of the attempted assassination of Donald Trump. Tackling them requires us to see conspiracism differently, says researcher Sophia Knight.
Within minutes of Saturday's attempted assassination on former US President Donald Trump, conspiracy theories started to swirl online.Without any evidence, people spread claims that the incident was everything from a hoax to a plot. Swept up in a divisive presidential campaign, online voices spun up explanations to fill in the details of the day's shocking events.
Conspiracy theories are not new in American politics. Adherents of QAnon – a wide-ranging political conspiracy movement – were among those who caused chaos at the Capitol on 6 January 2021, while there are many still invested in conspiracy theories regarding the assassination of former President John F Kennedy more than 60 years ago. From such experiences, we know the division, discord and disintegration of trust they breed can be extremely damaging to a democracy's health.
So, what do we do about this rising tide of conspiracism? Most importantly, the answer is not to just try and prove people wrong. Any attempt to debunk a conspiracy has a good chance of backfiring, playing into established narratives of "the elite" or "deep state" censoring the truth.
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Anatomy of a 'conspiracy loop': Do we need a new way of looking at the spread of fake claims?
Researchers say they understand how fake claims and wild theories surface – and then take hold. But can anything be done about them?www.bbc.com
Step 1. Wait for balancing info to come out - don't assume every conspiracy claim is true until proven false. Wait a bit.
Step 2. Tend to believe what you actually see on the screen - without dismissing everything you see as fake or conspiracy. Then watch for info that might indicate that the video is manipulated in some way where the information trying to debunk the video - is itself very credible.
Step 3. Use critical thinking when extreme claims show up. The most reasonable option is usually the right one.
Step 4. don't be led like sheep to discount evidence just because someone "claims" to have debunked it with their own "I prefer not to believe that" argument. Preference is not proof of something other than proof of free will and the ability to have a preference.
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“Brethren, What Shall We Do?’...
- By Michie
- One Bread, One Body - Catholic
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“Brethren, what shall we do?” (Acts 2: 37) Such was the response of “devout men from every nation under heaven” (Acts 2:5) to St. Peter’s Pentecost Discourse. The Holy Scriptures tell us that “that they were cut to the heart” (Acts 2:37). St. Peter had proclaimed to them the truth of the Redemptive Incarnation with these words:
Witnessing the transformation of the Apostles by the descent of the Holy Spirit and hearing the preaching of St. Peter, the devout men understood that the event which they were witnessing and the enduring reality which it manifested had changed their lives forever. They recognized the abiding victory of Jesus, “Lord and Christ” (Acts 2:36), over sin and death through the outpouring of His spirit, God the Holy Spirit, upon the Church, into the hearts of the faithful members of the Church, Christ’s Mystical Body.
To their heartfelt question, “Brethren, what shall we do?” addressed to the Apostles, St. Peter, without hesitation and without equivocation, responded:
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Witnessing the transformation of the Apostles by the descent of the Holy Spirit and hearing the preaching of St. Peter, the devout men understood that the event which they were witnessing and the enduring reality which it manifested had changed their lives forever. They recognized the abiding victory of Jesus, “Lord and Christ” (Acts 2:36), over sin and death through the outpouring of His spirit, God the Holy Spirit, upon the Church, into the hearts of the faithful members of the Church, Christ’s Mystical Body.
To their heartfelt question, “Brethren, what shall we do?” addressed to the Apostles, St. Peter, without hesitation and without equivocation, responded:
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“What Shall We Do?”
An inspiring address by Cardinal Raymond Burke: "Christ indeed continues to be at work in us through the teaching of the truth and the manifestation of its beauty in the Sacred Liturgy and of its goodness in a virtuous life. May Commencement leave you “cut to the heart,” asking Our Lord: “What...
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Archaeologists find ancient moat fortifying biblical Jerusalem
- By Michie
In a groundbreaking discovery, archaeologists solved a long-standing mystery about Jerusalem’s defenses. The findings are consistent with biblical descriptions of the city’s topography.
In a groundbreaking discovery, archaeologists have solved a long-standing mystery about Jerusalem’s ancient defenses. Recent excavations in the City of David have revealed a massive moat that once fortified the Temple Mount and the King’s Palace, shedding new light on the fortifications of biblical Jerusalem.
For more than 150 years, the full extent of Jerusalem’s northern fortifications remained elusive. But thanks to recent work in the Givati parking lot adjacent to the Old City walls, researchers from the Israel Antiquities Authority(IAA) and Tel Aviv University have uncovered a moat that divided the City of David, separating the ruling Acropolis from the southern residential areas.
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In a groundbreaking discovery, archaeologists have solved a long-standing mystery about Jerusalem’s ancient defenses. Recent excavations in the City of David have revealed a massive moat that once fortified the Temple Mount and the King’s Palace, shedding new light on the fortifications of biblical Jerusalem.
For more than 150 years, the full extent of Jerusalem’s northern fortifications remained elusive. But thanks to recent work in the Givati parking lot adjacent to the Old City walls, researchers from the Israel Antiquities Authority(IAA) and Tel Aviv University have uncovered a moat that divided the City of David, separating the ruling Acropolis from the southern residential areas.
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Archaeologists find ancient moat fortifying Jerusalem
Archaeologists solved a long-standing mystery about Jerusalem’s defenses. The findings confirm biblical descriptions of the city’s topography.
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How the Ancient Christians Can Give You Hope and Teach You to Spread the Faith
- By Michie
- One Bread, One Body - Catholic
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The Church grew at a steady rate of 40% per decade,’ says Mike Aquilina, ‘and all that happened at a time when the practice of the faith was a capital crime.’
In times like these, it’s easy to despair about evangelization in the modern world. But a new Ignatius Press book by Mike Aquilina, Rabbles, Riots, and Ruins: Twelve Ancient Cities and How They Were Evangelized, not only offers some much-needed hope when thinking about evangelizing today’s culture but also serves as a guide on how to go about it.
The Register caught up with the book’s author at his home in Pittsburgh and asked if Christian hope can persist amid the despair of modern Western cities.
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How the Ancient Christians Can Give You Hope and Teach You to Spread the Faith
‘The Church grew at a steady rate of 40% per decade,’ says Mike Aquilina, ‘and all that happened at a time when the practice of the faith was a capital crime.’
Children of pioneering NFP doctor follow in his footsteps
- By Michie
- One Bread, One Body - Catholic
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(OSV News) — In 1968, Pope St. Paul VI issued an encyclical that would change the course of Dr. Thomas Hilgers’ life.
The encyclical, “Humanae Vitae,” was an unexpected and unpopular papal condemnation of artificial contraception. But Hilgers, then a medical student, quickly embraced the teaching and committed himself to improving fertility awareness-based methods for family planning, also known as natural family planning or NFP.
“When ‘Humanae Vitae’ came out, most people rejected (it),” Dr. Teresa Hilgers, Thomas Hilgers’ daughter, told OSV News. “My dad felt like it called to him.”
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The encyclical, “Humanae Vitae,” was an unexpected and unpopular papal condemnation of artificial contraception. But Hilgers, then a medical student, quickly embraced the teaching and committed himself to improving fertility awareness-based methods for family planning, also known as natural family planning or NFP.
“When ‘Humanae Vitae’ came out, most people rejected (it),” Dr. Teresa Hilgers, Thomas Hilgers’ daughter, told OSV News. “My dad felt like it called to him.”
Pioneering work in NaProTechnology
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Children of pioneering NFP doctor follow in his footsteps
In 1968, Pope St. Paul VI issued an encyclical that would change the course of Dr. Thomas Hilgers' life.The encyclical, "Humanae Vitae," was an unexpected and unpopular papal condemnation of artificial contraception. But Hilgers, then a medical student, quickly embraced the teaching and...
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The neighborhood and REO Speedwagon
- By AlexB23
- The Kitchen Sink
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We will fly away to Jesus in Heaven, and yes, I have used Psalm 90:10 in a devotional, when discussing human lifespans.
Remember that hymn, "I Will Fly Away" covered by Jars of Clay? It was a good cover.Entropy Devotional
Entropy & Decay
Hello folks. Today will be a devotional on entropy, which is the scientific theory about why stuff breaks down, and is described in scripture. Date June 15, 2024 | Entropy & Decay Verse Psalm 102:25-27 (NIV): "In the beginning you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the...
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