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What nit picking about the pope can we unveil today?
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Except he never did that. It's one of your fictions.
I'm not sure he said that but if he did, he is right. No one can make a good case for killing thousands of innocents just to kill a few guilty people.
The Pope isn't giving you your politics! That's such an untrue claim.
Objectively speaking the pope probably has no idea that you exist. He isn't asking you to be his follower. Try following Jesus.
It's you who likes Trump more than Biden and you project that onto what the pope says. No wonder you wrote these accusatory posts.
Donald Trump sleeps with many women and is proud of it. He's a convicted felon. He lies in every speech he gives. What's not to like?
You are not the universal church. You are just some person on CF who writes anti-pope posts.
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Who Really Wrote the Gospels?
- By Michie
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Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are not just code words for anonymous and unreliable authors.
Most of us take for granted that the Gospels according to Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John were in fact written by Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, respectively. In times past, this would have been the obvious assumption, and questioning this assumption would have been seen as an absurd waste of time.
However, no assumption is safe today, and the identity of the authors of the Gospels is now hotly debated by some scholars.
So let’s take a look at this question. Who did write the Gospels? And why does it matter?
Briefly, we should begin by setting the parameters of the question. When talking about who wrote the Gospels, we should clarify whichgospels we are talking about. There are only four canonical Gospels, those purported to be written by Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, which are considered authentically part of the New Testament by all Christians the world over. There are a great number of so-called “gospels.” Among others, there are the “Gospel of Judas,” the “Gospel of Mary,” the “Gospel of Thomas,” the “Gospel of Philip,” the Protoevangelium of James, and many more.
These are all recognized as having been written a century or more after the death of Jesus, sometimes several centuries later, and not attributable to those closest disciples of Our Lord, or even to their disciples. While these facts in and of themselves do not mean that they are unreliable historical records, we know that the authors were not divinely inspired, as the Church has discerned and declared the canon of Sacred Scripture, and the canon is closed. Scripture is public revelation from God, and such public revelation ceased with the death of the last apostle (see Dei Verbum 4, CCC 66-67, 73). So these so-called “gospels,” though they may be historically interesting documents, are not part of that canon. The authorship of those documents is not at issue here.
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Who Really Wrote the Gospels?
Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are not just code words for anonymous and unreliable authors of the Gospels. They were real people, divinely inspired.
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Divorce, College, and the Dual-Income Home: An Interview with Leila Lawler Part 3
- By Michie
- One Bread, One Body - Catholic
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Editor’s Note: This is part three of three in a series from Rob Marco’s interview with Leila Lawler. Read parts one and two here.
In the final installment of the interview series, Leila comments on the hidden cycles of repression and financial burden so often overlooked in our social belief systems: that everyone ought to go to college, that the ability to divorce is true freedom, and that the dual-income home is necessary for happy living.
There seems to be a reactionary trend in recent years against higher education in favor of the trades among conservatives. This is understandable given the exponential cost of college combined with the left-leaning politics of universities today, not to mention that one can earn a good living in the trades.
Leila Marie Lawler: The relative expense of college tuition is an interesting phenomenon. Its trajectory tracks elite and upper-middle-class women working outside the home. The market responds to the available income. A man once said to me, “I couldn’t afford the tuitions if my wife didn’t work!” So it’s a self-fulfilling cycle, isn’t it? Women go to college to get degrees so they can get good jobs so that in 20 years their salaries can go to tuitions for their children—they have to work to afford future tuition. We were the last to enter a situation that was free of this influence. Yes, college is expensive, and I’m not sure what most who go there are getting out of it—for many reasons, but that’s probably beyond the scope of this interview!
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In the final installment of the interview series, Leila comments on the hidden cycles of repression and financial burden so often overlooked in our social belief systems: that everyone ought to go to college, that the ability to divorce is true freedom, and that the dual-income home is necessary for happy living.
There seems to be a reactionary trend in recent years against higher education in favor of the trades among conservatives. This is understandable given the exponential cost of college combined with the left-leaning politics of universities today, not to mention that one can earn a good living in the trades.
How did you approach the issue of college with your children? Did you have conversations about their chosen field of study, return on investment, and maintaining their Catholicity during the college years, and whether or not to attend a public, private, or Catholic college? For those that did attend college, how did you approach the financial aspect?
Leila Marie Lawler: The relative expense of college tuition is an interesting phenomenon. Its trajectory tracks elite and upper-middle-class women working outside the home. The market responds to the available income. A man once said to me, “I couldn’t afford the tuitions if my wife didn’t work!” So it’s a self-fulfilling cycle, isn’t it? Women go to college to get degrees so they can get good jobs so that in 20 years their salaries can go to tuitions for their children—they have to work to afford future tuition. We were the last to enter a situation that was free of this influence. Yes, college is expensive, and I’m not sure what most who go there are getting out of it—for many reasons, but that’s probably beyond the scope of this interview!
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Divorce, College, and the Dual-Income Home: An Interview with Leila Lawler Part 3
Editor’s Note: This is part three of three in a series from Rob Marco’s interview with Leila Lawler. Read parts one and two here. In the final installment of the interview series, Leila comments on the hidden cycles of repression and financial burden so often overlooked in our social belief...
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Excessive force, even after an attack, is immoral, pope says
- By Michie
- One Bread, One Body - Catholic
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ABOARD THE PAPAL FLIGHT FROM BELGIUM (CNS) — Using disproportionate force after being attacked is immoral, Pope Francis said.
There are rules, even in war, that should be followed, he said. And when those rules are not adhered to you can see, “as we say in Argentina, the ‘bad blood'” or bad intentions behind the actions.
The U.S. reporter had prefaced the question by saying Israel, in its targeted strike assassinating Hezbollah leader, Hassan Nasrallah, had dropped tons of explosives on Lebanon, resulting in many casualties and displacing hundreds of people, which prompted the pope to put his hand to his face in a show of despair.
“Has Israel perhaps gone too far in Lebanon and Gaza?” the reporter asked.
The pope replied that he speaks every day by phone with the people who have been sheltering in Gaza’s Catholic church, “and they tell me about the things that are happening, even the cruelty that happens there.”
He said he was not sure about what really happened in Lebanon, but he said a nation’s “defense must always be proportionate to the attack.”
“When there is something disproportionate, one shows a tendency to dominate which goes beyond what is moral,” he said.
Defensive actions that are so “excessive,” he said, “are immoral actions.”
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There are rules, even in war, that should be followed, he said. And when those rules are not adhered to you can see, “as we say in Argentina, the ‘bad blood'” or bad intentions behind the actions.
Concerns over Israeli strikes
During a brief question-and-answer period with reporters on the papal plane returning to Rome from Belgium on Sept. 29, the pope was asked specifically whether he thought Israel had gone too far in its most recent strike on Lebanon.The U.S. reporter had prefaced the question by saying Israel, in its targeted strike assassinating Hezbollah leader, Hassan Nasrallah, had dropped tons of explosives on Lebanon, resulting in many casualties and displacing hundreds of people, which prompted the pope to put his hand to his face in a show of despair.
“Has Israel perhaps gone too far in Lebanon and Gaza?” the reporter asked.
The pope replied that he speaks every day by phone with the people who have been sheltering in Gaza’s Catholic church, “and they tell me about the things that are happening, even the cruelty that happens there.”
He said he was not sure about what really happened in Lebanon, but he said a nation’s “defense must always be proportionate to the attack.”
“When there is something disproportionate, one shows a tendency to dominate which goes beyond what is moral,” he said.
Defensive actions that are so “excessive,” he said, “are immoral actions.”
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Excessive force, even after an attack, is immoral, pope says
Using disproportionate force after being attacked is immoral, Pope Francis said.There are rules, even in war, that should be followed, he said. And when those rules are not adhered to you can see, "as we say in Argentina, the 'bad blood'" or bad intentions behind the actions.
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Pope Francis responds to critics of comments he made in Belgium about women
- By Michie
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Aboard the papal plane to Rome on Sunday, Pope Francis responded to criticism of remarks he made about women during a Sept. 28 visit to a Catholic university in Louvain, Belgium, saying it is an “obtuse mind” that intentionally misunderstands his position.
In a meeting with students of the Université Catholique de Louvain (UCLouvain), Francis reflected at length on the role of women in the Church, saying: “What characterizes women, that which is truly feminine, is not stipulated by consensus or ideologies, just as dignity itself is ensured not by laws written on paper, but by an original law written on our hearts.”
“Womanhood speaks to us of fruitful welcome, nurturing and life-giving dedication. For this reason, a woman is more important than a man, but it is terrible when a woman wants to be a man: No, she is a woman, and this is ‘heavy’ and important,” he said.
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In a meeting with students of the Université Catholique de Louvain (UCLouvain), Francis reflected at length on the role of women in the Church, saying: “What characterizes women, that which is truly feminine, is not stipulated by consensus or ideologies, just as dignity itself is ensured not by laws written on paper, but by an original law written on our hearts.”
“Womanhood speaks to us of fruitful welcome, nurturing and life-giving dedication. For this reason, a woman is more important than a man, but it is terrible when a woman wants to be a man: No, she is a woman, and this is ‘heavy’ and important,” he said.
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Pope Francis responds to critics of his comments in Belgium on women
“A woman is more important than a man, but it is terrible when a woman wants to be a man: No, she is a woman,” the pope had said in Belgium.
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