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GoldenBoy89 said:

Then what are the police supposed to do?

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Invade Iraq maybe?

RDKirk said:

That took an entire world war and millions dead.

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Yep. Sometimes it's not that dramatic, but sometimes it is.

RDKirk said:

Okay, it's been a thing for ten years among a narrow segment of white social media users.

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Not just them, but whatever.

RDKirk said:

That certainly does not compare to the use of the swastika by the Germans...which involved an entire world war and millions dead.

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I didn't say it did. You're the one who's making that comparison like it matters somehow. The KKK didn't start a world war, yet we don't embrace their messaging and imagery either.

RDKirk said:

Among a narrow segment of white social media users. That still amounts to liberals allowing a small set of racists to box their communication with the slightest of effort.

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In my 40+ years on earth, I've yet to find the scenario where I need adopt a racist phrase, symbol, or ideology in a sensitive situation in order to have a baseline interaction with somebody. I don't anticipate that I'll be saying anytime soon "Oh no, a person of color is here and I need to express something is going adequately... Without doing an "ok" gesture, how ever will I communicate that? There's no other option and now nobody will know that this situation is midline satisfactory..."

If you find communication boxed by not using the "ok" gesture, that denotes an inability on your part to communicate. If you're using a symbol you know to have racist meaning in a context you know could be taken as a racist gesture because you have no other way to communicate, again, that denotes one's poor communication skills, one's lack of self-awareness, or potentially that one is too comfortable doing things they know could be interpreted as racist and being OK with it. Again, I prefer to have a pretty clear line between things I do and things racists do. Other's mileage may vary if they have a different sense of ethics or morality... Which, again... If that leads to people treating them differently as a result, it's firmly a "them" problem, not a "me" problem.

Belk said:

Closest one to me is in another state. Apparently they did not think WA was a good place to open one.

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My closest is 3 mi. Ate there just last week. We eat there once or twice a year.

SpaceX's Starship completes successful mission during 10th test flight​

After reaching space on a suborbital trajectory, Starship deployed a series of Starlink simulators, which SpaceX said are similar in size to the next generation of the device, and was the first time the company has deployed a payload [with Starship I assume]. The vehicle then relit one of its six engines. The deployment and relight were two key objectives that Starship was unable to perform during the last flight, and crucial for future orbital missions.

And unlike the last several missions that ended prematurely due to technical problems, SpaceX returned Starship to Earth with a landing burn and splashdown in the Indian Ocean, west of Australia, a little over an hour after liftoff, a critical milestone for the company.

A buoy camera captured the splashdown and appeared to show an explosion after Starship landed in the water. The explosion isn’t an unexpected outcome as the spacecraft isn’t designed for water landings and will eventually return to the launch pad upon completion of the mission.

Some additional information from the press conference.

The shooting occurred during mass. The shooter, believed to be in his 20s, barricaded the doors before opening fire through the windows. Dozens of rounds were fired into the building, and it is believed all three weapons were used.

Bturknett said:

I pray Trump sends the military to every US major city that is ridden with crime. We absolutely need it.

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Then what are the police supposed to do?

This is awful!

Thoughts and prayers are not enough.

According to information being released during a live press conference, the shooter had a rifle, a shotgun, and a pistol. Two children ages 8 and 10 have died. There are 17 injured, including 14 children, some critically.

Judge blocks administration from deporting Kilmar Abrego Garcia until at least October​

The judge extended her restraining order until his court challenge is resolved.

The judge also said that Abrego Garcia, who is currently being held in a detention center in Virginia, must remain in custody within a 200-mile radius of the court in Maryland.

Attorneys for Abrego Garcia filed an emergency motion Monday to reopen his immigration case in order to seek asylum, arguing that because Abrego Garcia was deported and then brought back to the U.S., he is now eligible to apply for asylum within one year of his last entry into the U.S.

Always in His Presence said:

Worse than Antifa: Inside the new breed of ultra-extremist groups dedicated to chaos, violence — and even alleged murder ***caution - link contains video of vulgar language​

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"Masked, fist-clenched agitators belonging to the anarchist collective turned up to sow chaos — but locals banded together to confront the troublemakers, telling them to get lost."

...for a second there I thought they were talking about ICE.

Always in His Presence said:

Congrats to those two districts.

What did they do differently than what they doing on a national level?

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They didn't change horses in the middle of a stream.

RileyG said:

So yelling “I love bacon” is enough to get someone arrested? If he was warned, then, maybe he deserved it. I dunno. Still, that sounds ridiculous to me. Hardly aggravating.

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The UK doesn't identify freedom of speech as a legal fundamental right of citizens, so there is that. They've been doing this kind of thing for years.

Tropical Wilds said:

So what? The context of the swastika didn't matter before 1890 as it almost always meant prosperity, blessings, and good luck. Walk through the military portion of our graveyard and a whole bunch of people have it on gravestones from the 1920s because they were in the 45th Infantry.

Then it was appropriated and context mattered. Now people don't think "45th Infantry," they think "Nazis." Things change. Welcome to living through history.

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That took an entire world war and millions dead.

Tropical Wilds said:

Though I will point out that the "ok" symbol didn't ALWAYS mean okay in every context (when I was a kid, it was the go-to symbol for one's rear orifice) nor is the racist usage less than 5 years old. It was added to the list of symbols in 2019 and the first trickles of it being used as a hate sign started in 2015. In 2016/17, 4chan users tried to make it a power symbol as a social experiment/joke, and by 2018 it had been adopted by white supremacists to make racist messages. So it's been a thing for closing in on a decade.

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Okay, it's been a thing for ten years among a narrow segment of white social media users.

That certainly does not compare to the use of the swastika by the Germans...which involved an entire world war and millions dead.

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And it's not allowing racists box communication with the slightest of effort... You're being dramatic. It's more like enough people took a symbol and used it to mean something racist, and we have a problem with racists and don't want to emulate them so we don't do those things. There was a time where not emulating racists wasn't a controversy.

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Among a narrow segment of white social media users. That still amounts to liberals allowing a small set of racists to box their communication with the slightest of effort.

Niels said:

That's why II think the correct response is compassion. And not in a patronizing way. If we want them to see God as a refuge rather than as a bully, I think that starts with treating them like Jesus instructs us to treat our neighbors.

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Amen! Very well said!

Tropical Wilds said:

I've been saying so for years.

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Unfortunately, that’s 100% true

The Funky Phantom

This guy was obviously not in a good state of mind and having a job were you’re made to be as cruel as possible to people - your own people - probably took it’s toll. I just wonder what kind of mental health screenings they’re doing at ICE or DHS now that they’ve laxed so many hiring requirements and what that means for the people being targeted by these potentially unstable federal agents who seem to be accountable to no one. The only reason this guy was even arrested was because he hit a cop.

timewerx said:

Jesus and His disciples ate with sinners - Matthew 9:10-13

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Jesus had no choice but to eat with sinners. Everyone was a sinner but Him.
His disciples had no choice, everyone was a sinner but Jesus.

I would love to be among them who are not sinners.
Sinners tend to always be doing something evil.

RileyG said:

It's only getting to get worse and worse mark my words!

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I've been saying so for years.

Always in His Presence said:

Worse than Antifa: Inside the new breed of ultra-extremist groups dedicated to chaos, violence — and even alleged murder ***caution - link contains video of vulgar language​

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Worse than Antifa? Which means that this group actually exists and isn't simply an invented Republican boogieman scapegoat for all things that they don't like?