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Desk trauma said:

Dragging the example out would this mean selling what the customer wants, coke, heroine, isn’t the problem but the adulteration of it with other unwanted substances?

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There are many angles to this conversation, but one very important one is this...

A family man who snorts coke on weekends every now and then accidentally buys pure powder fentanyl from someone on the street... And dies instantly.

Coke is bad, no doubt. But the man didn't deserve that kind of death. Some of your comrades think it's okay if that happens - I don't.

Bradskii said:

So, you're saying that gerrymandering is wrong? Got ya.

Oh, sorry. You're saying it's OK? Ah, I understand.

But wait...you just argued against it...

Ah, but earlier you were all for it.

Except that what you just said...

Gosh, I wish you guys would just pick a lane and stick to it.

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Feel free to address the topic of the thread anytime.

essentialsaltes said:

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"In 20 years a lot of people are going to deny voting for Trump"

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iluvatar5150 said:

Don't discount the effects of erosion.

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Erosion is an effective form of gun control?

Or is the thread being derailed?

A New Dawn said:

You complain when God doesn’t give us a choice and then you complain when He does. Which is it? Was God right to give us a choice or was He wrong?

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You're deflecting. Didn't anyone teach you it's bad form to answer a question with a question?

A New Dawn said:

A democracy is majority rule, period.

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No it isn’t.

Democracy only means power of the people. Demos=people and kratia=power or rule of law. Theres nothing there that says it has to be a majority rule. It is any form of government where the power of the state is vested in the People.

Our constitution starts with the words “We the People.” It doesn’t say “We, the representatives of our constitutional republic.”

We the people use a democratic system to elect our representatives who also then use a simple majority vote to pass laws on our behalf. When the first congress came together to establish and frame the constitution they decided on what made it into the document through simple voting and majority rule.

A New Dawn said:

A republic utilizes elected representatives who govern according to an overarching body of laws. Because we are NOT a democracy we have the electoral college. IN a democracy whatever the majority wants, the majority gets.

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Unless a majority before them already put in protections for the minority that cannot be rescinded.

A New Dawn said:

Because we have an overarching body of laws that determines how we are governed, instead of majority rule, we are not a democracy.

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Every single country on earth has a constitution their legislators and leaders have to abide by. That isn’t the defining feature of a democracy. Even Saudi Arabia has a constitution that their monarch has to follow. The defining feature of any democracy is the power being vested in the people.

A New Dawn said:

We are a Constitutional Republic that uses the democratic process ONLY to elect our representatives except in the case of the president.

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Those same representatives use a democratic process with simple majorities to pass legislation that affect the entire country. This is democracy in action.

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Pommer said:

They’re still waiting on Trump to release his own tax documents, you know, like he said he would.
But, no, he reneged and his base doesn’t care. C’est la vie

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No - that is demonstrably false:

Donald Trump's tax documents were publicly released on December 30, 2022 by the House Ways and Means Committee. The release included six years of returns from 2015 to 2020, following a lengthy legal and political battle over access to the records.

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6 years of Trump tax documents released by House Ways and Means Committee​

Not C'est la vie - no - the correct term is C'était embarrassant

Here is where some will argue timing as an excuse.

Do you know why the left stopped talking about Trump's taxes three years ago? Because he didn't do anything wrong -

Colo Millz said:

Then I certainly apologize.

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No need as I certainly contributed.

Tropical Wilds said:

Macabre got me the other day. I’m a whole-word reader and I get nuked all the time.

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When I first came across the written word "disciple", in my head, it was "diss-sipple" (learned to read in Houston with that accent). I never had any call to say it out loud so no one ever corrected me. I had heard the word said and just thought the two were synonyms for the longest time.

I know I pronounce words wrong when I write them the way I say them and get that red underline over and over.

Landon Caeli said:

Baloney.

So if I put some botulinum toxins in all my friends food, and eat some myself, you think that's not a sin? Yeah..! It is..!

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You poisoning your friends without their knowledge and consent = sin.

I agree.

How is that relevant?

DaisyDay said:

How do we know that that boatload of folk actually are jihadists? How do we know they have a bunch of bombs? How do we know they are heading towards America? It would help to know their names to be sure that they are what you're claiming they are.

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Doesn't start to seem like some folks only need to FEEL justified without ever having to BE justified.



I wasn't really following this story that closely. What evidence has been made public to justify this action? Is it a boat registration thing? Did they see it get loaded up with drugs?
Do they have named? What drug?

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Fervent said:

Is it not exactly as God decreed it to be? Did man overpower Him somehow and ruin the world?

I see you dodged my basic question.

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You complain when God doesn’t give us a choice and then you complain when He does. Which is it? Was God right to give us a choice or was He wrong?

The Liturgist said:

Amen. I think its why the Orthodox Church is now growing faster than even the Pentecostals; we have parishes seeing annual membership increases of 18%. We now have a clergy shortage due to all of the converts combined with the high birth rate among most Orthodox populations except for the Greeks (the birth rate among the Oriental Orthodox by the way is … beautiful).

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Glory to God in all things!

Chesterton said:

HOW DARE YOU!

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What kind of other politics could I have that would get me in your good graces again, lol?

Gregory Thompson said:

Interesting story.

Righteousness motivated by fear is self righteousness, the opposite to the righteousness of living by faith.

The bible does not say that being afraid of God results in confidence on the day of judgment.

At the mountain with Moses the people said that they didn't want to be afraid anymore, and God says "this is good" and then talked about Jesus who they would need to listen to.

Since fear is a carnal reaction to God, and the flesh is at animosity towards all God related things ... being fearful is not a reasonable goal.

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I think there’s a mix-up here between terror (which Christ delivers us from) and fear as reverence (which Scripture repeatedly commends).

You’re right that righteousness isn’t meant to come from a slavish, cowering fear, that would indeed be self-righteousness. But the Bible is clear that godly fear is not carnal. It’s spiritual, and it’s commanded:
- “The fear of the Lord is clean, enduring forever” (Psalm 19:9).
- “Work out your salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you” (Philippians 2:12-13).
- “Since we are receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, let us offer to God acceptable worship, with reverence and awe, for our God is a consuming fire” (Hebrews 12:28-29).
Notice that these verses are addressed to believers already saved by grace, not to unbelievers at Sinai. The difference is that the fear Israel felt at Sinai was terror without mediation. But in Christ, our fear is transformed into reverence because He is both Saviour and Judge.

God Himself said in Deuteronomy 5:29: “Oh, that they had such a heart in them that they would fear Me and always keep all My commandments, that it might be well with them and with their children forever!” That shows fear of the Lord is a good and ongoing thing, not something to be discarded.
So, I’d say this: fear of God isn’t about cowering in terror; it’s about living with holy awe, reverence, and seriousness before Him. Love gives us confidence, but fear keeps us from taking God lightly. And both work together in shaping our walk with Him.

A New Dawn said:

You do know that the state of the world we live in is man’s fault, right?

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Is it not exactly as God decreed it to be? Did man overpower Him somehow and ruin the world?

A New Dawn said:

The only way he can prevent atrocities would have been to take away any choices from Adam and THEN he/us would really be puppets.

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I see you dodged my basic question.

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Fervent said:

So he actively prevents people from coming to Christ, but doesn't prevent atrocities?

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You do know that the state of the world we live in is man’s fault, right? The only way he can prevent atrocities would have been to take away any choices from Adam and THEN he/us would really be puppets.