Zaha Torte said:

All the J6 claims have been debunked. The Feds were the only ones doing damage that day while the patriots were escorted in and around by Capitol Police and had a nice tour.

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oooohhhh.... that's what we're working with... ok

Zaha Torte said:

I do recall a motor vehicle being used by a deranged leftists to hurt White people

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Oh? I don't remember that. To what are you referring? I do recall the incident in Charlottesville, and the incident in Austin, some others where I can see the visuals but forget the location, a couple different states trying to make it easier to run over protestors,

Douggg said:

Near the end of the 7 years, in Daniel 11:40-44, the beast-king headquartered in Jerusalem will be attacked from the south, then north, then east.

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Armageddon is Jesus who comes from the East alone. Dan. 11:40-43 is the Anti-Christ conquering Israel and THE MANY (every nation on the Mediterranean Sea Coastline save those in the E.U. Thus Rome is Revived under the auspices of the European Union.



Rome.........The Church Age comes.....then the 70th week comes as of the church age never existed.

Douggg said:

Why ? We can only speculate. imo, it will be because the beast-king (king of the West, i.e the EU with likely allies of Canada and the United States) will be directing all the middle east oil to the western alliance. Oil being the life blood of the nations, will give them no choice but to attack the beast-king to free up the oil.

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The USA will be burning (the 1/3 is a destination point, not 1/3 of the trees burning. Its the New World burning, how was fire from the New World or vice versa going to ever jump across the ocean after the asteroid impact? So, the USA is not in the equation at all, and Canada is a joke militarily speaking. Its spiritual in nature, not about oil. Gog & Magog may be about oil/natural gas.

Douggg said:

It should be noted that the attack from the east will be by the armies of China (Revelation 16:12). In Revelation 9:13-19, there will be a third of mankind killed by a 200,000,000 size army. So I think that will be by the armies of China as they march westward through Pakistan, India. Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, and other "stan" countries.

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The 200 Million are Angels, nit men on horses. They deliver plagues from God, Satan CANNOT wipe our or kill Satan, Jesus told us that. Plagues are of God, now reread Rev. 9:20-21. You get off-tracked by starting off road.

Douggg said:

So there will be a big battle near the end of the 7 years, Daniel 11:40-44.

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That battle happens in the exact middle of the week, he has to rile over Israel for 1260 days.

Douggg said:

As the battle is taking place, like a thief in the night, the sixth seal event will happen and the world will see Jesus in heaven, sickle in hand.

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The THEIF can only be referring the Pre Trib. Rapture, in Rev. 16 God is MOCKING THOSE who did not heed the prophets warnings. As in I told you so, SEE, SEE, SEE, you fate was SEALED when Jesus came for he Church, like a thief in the night you missed the Rapture.

Douggg said:

In the face of the threat to their existence, the nations will stop battling with the beast king and his armies, and will unite under the beast-king's leadership (Revelation 16:12-16). And with their armies already in the middle east will gather at Armageddon to prepare for making war on Jesus and His army of heaven.

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The AC 9s voted to be the E.U. President and he ONLY Conquers Israel and THE MANY, no one else.

DaisyDay said:

Well, you're half right. The rest is just more baiting and goading, not to mention an unbecoming, personal remark.

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How so? He was smarter than me too. Reality is only offensive to the deluded and prideful.

Tropical Wilds said:

So what I’m hearing is it’s no biggie to kill elected officials as long they aren’t one of the big ones.

Interesting.

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Might want to get your hearing checked.

Tropical Wilds said:

I’m bemoaning it. You seem excited by it.

And objects in the mirror are closer than they appear.

Like seriously, what on earth are you talking about.

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Okay, it could be that the left has a dimmer switch, the right has an on/off switch.

I hope they catch them. They’ve managed to evade authorities longer than I’d have guessed.

Zaha Torte said:

Everyone has a breaking point. The COVID lockdowns were bad - but I would not consider it enough for violence.

All the J6 claims have been debunked. The Feds were the only ones doing damage that day while the patriots were escorted in and around by Capitol Police and had a nice tour.

I do recall a motor vehicle being used by a deranged leftists to hurt White people and we all know how Obama and Biden used the State to persecute conservatives.

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Is this… Is this serious…?

Dan Perez said:

being taken to heaven is right on in 1 Thess 4:17. !!

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You are a purveyor of untruths.
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 never says humans will be taken to heaven, there - or anywhere else in the Bible.
Those faithful Christians who kept strong and trusted the Lord through all that must happen before Jesus Returns, will be transported to where He will be; in the clouds, then in Jerusalem.

Larniavc said:

Incorrect. Some are. Some couldn’t care less. Seems that even more care even less about the kids who’s faces get shot to bits in schools because America (an atypically conservative and religious country) refuse to do anything about it.

A person making blanket statements about whole swathes of society is the highest order of bigotry. Christians and non-Christians alike are individuals with differing views are morals and beliefs. Please see beyond categories.

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If they don't care, then they don't love God. It really is that simple.

Who are the people shooting the children?

Jerry N. said:

That is the whole point. Do we make Scripture the highest authority or the Roman Church? Protestants say the Scripture, and Roman Catholics say the Church. I seem to remember that was an important part of the Reformation.

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Yes, it is an important part of salvation. Christ said He would build His Church, and He gave us people not a book. The book testifies of the Church
Christ said so directly to the Pharisees in John 5. You search the scriptures and think you have eternal life in them, but the scriptures testify of me and you don’t believe. That is as the Old Testament, which was a shadow of things to come.
The New Testament speaks of the Church that Christ built. She is still here, and people don’t believe. Why was the book written? So anyone can claim plain reading and become stubborn in error? The Holy Spirit was promised to the Church, not the book.
Yes it is a contention of the reformation, but contention does not equal truth. The plain reading of scripture shows that Christ built a Church, the Holy Spirit was promised to the Church, the Apostles were sealed with tongues of fire on Pentecost. The book did not receive the same benefits.

Our human mind does not like it, we think we know better and can do better, but is not self sufficiency the original lie of Satan? “You shall be as gods knowing good and evil”?
Is not humility the Christian path? Not my will but thine be done?
The choice seems pretty clear but not pleasant.
Humble and deny yourself and take up your cross to follow Jesus, or exalt yourself and start your own church or join one that another man or woman has started.

Me and my house will follow the Lord.

DaisyDay said:

Under the law, if that were the law, then by definition it would not be murder. Why did you set up your hypothetical this way?

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To prove that you and others have no morals and you drift to and fro.

You would have been the slave-owners. The Dems were the slave-owners.

Chesterton said:

I might possibly agree with you on this.

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I’m bemoaning it. You seem excited by it.

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But remember, it could be true as someone recently said: The left has a dial, the right has a switch.

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And objects in the mirror are closer than they appear.

Like seriously, what on earth are you talking about.

Clare73 said:

Is that a denial of the point that belief in and trust on Jesus and his atoning work on the cross effects reconcilation with God (Eph 2:16) and salvation from his condemnation (Eph 2:8-9), which is the point under consideration?

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IDK. You decide

ralliann said:

This is what Charley was about. He helped young people to realize they were not alone in their thoughts. He taught them, and gave them the courage to speak their mind. Not to be intimidated into silence in our schools. Freedom of speech, and debate were encouraged, and what he did. This is what higher education had always been, he brought that back. That was Charley....The silencers will not silence him or what he started. Charlty did not "hate", he encouraged disgreement in debate. Using words, and ideas, not violence. May he rest in the Lord, and the Lord bring comfort to his wife and to his children in the coming days, months and years knowing who he really was.

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I agree. Did you think I didn't?

zoidar said:

From Barnes' Notes. I'm not sure about his view on prevenient grace since he was Reformed, but I think a good case can be made for prevenient grace of John 16:8. Barnes describes how the Holy Spirit works in unbelievers. That’s exactly what prevenient grace is: the Spirit’s initiative in bringing conviction to the world before faith.


There is no verse that explictly states prevenient grace, but you got the same problem with pre-faith regeneration, so if you got a problem with prevenient grace from lack of evidence, you should have the same problem with pre-faith regeneration.

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You must seem to feel you have a lock on the ordo salutis, but the truth is, it all happens in the blink of an eye and nobody knows the precise order that God works in. I believe that all in the split second that God saves us, He grants saving faith and, BAM, the work is done. Since there is no me needing to accept or deny it, there is no conflict there.

Chesterton said:

How many state representatives have there been in American history? Besides, you're talking about Minnesota, where they elect the likes of Jesse Ventura and Al Franken, lol.

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So what I’m hearing is it’s no biggie to kill elected officials as long they aren’t one of the big ones.

Interesting.

7thKeeper said:

That's not really an answer. How does that help?

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I was being pretty clear. More Republicans/Conservatives in Congress helps everyone.

Hvizsgyak said:

Sorry, wanting to kill someone is the same now as it was back then - evil and wrong. The liberal left has just taken hatred to a new height in recent years because they have lost everything good about themselves and now, they want someone to pay since they can't compete in the moral debating ring.

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I’m not denying it’s wrong. Those signs are disgusting.

But if your most relevant example to the threats of the left are signs from two decades ago during a time of general political unrest, that’s hardly a recent, relevant pattern of behavior.

The whole rant about liberal left losing everything good about themselves, I don’t even know what that was about. That sounds like fanfic, not reality. Not worth my time as it’s more about your fantasy than objective reality.

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there ya go

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But if it was true - it wouldn't be defamation - nor would it be hate or violence.