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Two in a bed one taken... where? Where there is a dead body, the vultures will gather. This means?

The authors of the Creed are Trinitarian. The term came to be published or hand written in a letter in the second century, then "Triad".
Dear GoldenKingGaze,
I'm not surprised that the authors are trinitarian. I'm sure they have many other beliefs that are not supported by scripture. However, the creed does not reflect their trinitarian belief. If you believe it does, quote that portion to me.

Joe
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Illegal Immigration

Then if you really believe that most people think that it OK for criminal aliens to be in our country; why do you suppose that most people support closing the border?
Who said it was OK? It's a question of which aliens you are prioritizing vs which you only say you are prioritizing.
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I love deep thinking especially God/end times/bible/do something for God anyone that can think deep or INFJ introvert etc here?

Apples and oranges. One is a trait of an intellectual, the other is a sign of faith.

God gave me prophetic dreams and visions. The Holy Spirits reacts to everything evil, even when people conceal it. I always know, even without thinking, or observing. But the two are required me in my earthly life, for myself.
For me critical thinking does not equate to a deep life ...

Dreams and visions do not make one deep, nor does the discerning of the thoughts and intents of others … deep (in one picture) is the truths that can be found in the name written on the white stone … which is as personal as a bed that is shared with a spouse … as a truth no one knows, but he that receives it; though it be common to all …
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Then if you really believe that most people think that it OK for criminal aliens to be in our country;
I'm not sure how that follows from what I said. What I was pointing out is that you were misinterpreting the survey results due to your own biases. It's a bit like if someone were to look at the results of a survey question that asked "Are you gay?" and take the 10% responding "yes" as a sign that 90% are unhappy (rather than that 10% are homosexual).

But, for the sake of argument, let's say that the majority of Americans don't think that the government should be focusing its efforts on deporting illegal immigrants. Why, then, might a majority support not allowing more illegal immigrants?

Perhaps they recognize that the system is overloaded and we need to give it time to work through the backlog of claims? Or they think that that time might be used to reform the system and make it more efficient, humane, and equitable? I'm sure there are other possibilities, but those are two I could think of offhand.
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Historic Poll Devastates Democrats: Worst Voter Approval Rating in 35 Years

OK those are the DSA policies. How do they compare with the policies the Berniecrats are pushing on the road? Which ones are out of touch with their base?
Let me tell you what I do know -

1. Bernie is a self described Socialist Democrat
2. Alexandria is a self described Socialist Democrat
3. I posted the link to the Socialist Democratic Party Website that they both self identify with.
4. The Democrats are loosing support as evidence by their historic low approval ratings.
4. Alexandria, while the most popular - does not hold the majority even in her own party

Many of their base are leaving because they say their party is out of touch

Enjoy exploring - perhaps you will do something no democrat has seemingly figured out yet;
That would be a mistake I don't think she will make. The place for AOC is Speaker of the House--a much more powerful position in terms of policy than President.
LOL.... oh, you are serious......
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Looks like he's capturing all the amateurs. Good for him, but he may not be the man MAGA wants for the job after all. I saw him on TV right after that staged raid on the marijuana farm. There were children being exploited on that farm and he knows there are other children being exploited on other farms that he has to leave alone, and I don't think he was very happy about it.
Source?
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Illegal Immigration

Yes what you say can be true. But someone who follows the laborious legal process and meets the requirements legally deserves citizenship more than someone who just ignores the law and enters illegally - their first act as a prospective citizen to commit a crime. How can someone, whose first act in the country is to break it's laws, be trusted fully?

I know people who have migrated to this country legally and have gone through ten years of jumping through hoops, following the torturous process, some have been through horrible situations in their home country, but they endure and follow the law. I know an African brother who's entire family was murdered in the Congo, but he's going through the legal process. What are we saying to these law abiding souls if people who ignore the whole process receive the same treatment? How can a society survive with two tier laws?

God Bless :)
Why should we include, indeed, prioritize people who have been physically admitted by border officials, or invited and transported here as refugees? They think they are here legally even if you don't, which is why they show up to fake hearings set up by ICE only to be arrested.
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RFK Jr’s ‘Maha’ report found to contain citations to nonexistent studies

When you consider the data mentioned, blanket preemptive dismissal would make actually make some sense.

Once the seed has been planted, you can't put the genie back into the bottle so to speak. (Hence the reason why people who go to those practitioners are 25-25% less likely to get vaccinated)

It's the same reason why in almost every case, if a person believes in one conspiracy, they'll end up getting on board with several others.

Once that "don't trust the mainstream medical institutions" mentality is established, that doesn't seem to be an easy switch for people to turn back off.

You're suggesting one causes the other, instead of merely correlated. People that reject vaccines, and people that go to alternative medical practitioners are outside the consensus, but that doesn't mean that using alternative medicine causes people to avoid vaccines.
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Illegal Immigration

I know it's popular for Trump's proponents to reframe that by stating that anyone here illegally is technically a "criminal," but that's not how most people think.

no, I didn't miss it.
Then if you really believe that most people think that it OK for criminal aliens to be in our country; why do you suppose that most people support closing the border?
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Two in a bed one taken... where? Where there is a dead body, the vultures will gather. This means?

Dear GoldenKingGaze,
You are reading into it words it does not say. I would discuss it more but it is not allowed on this forum.
Joe
The authors of the Creed are Trinitarian. The term came to be published or hand written in a letter in the second century, then "Triad".
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Another look at the moon landing.

They are, do you really believe that all these pictures of the universe are real,
Yes.
do you really believe there are billions of stars & other Galaxies & planets that can be landed upon like Mars ?
Yes.
If so there's nothing more I can say to you to convince you that NASA is hiding God
No - you don't realise it, but YOU are hiding God.

God is awesome, all mighty, all powerful and able to do, create etc far far more than we can ever imagine.
His creation , the world, planet, universe, solar system, milky way etc etc is enormous. Yet you have reduced his creation to a flat earth that is covered over by a dome which no one, or rocket, can get through. Your view of creation is limited - therefore your view of God is limited.

Go and look at the night sky through a telescope; I dare you. Forget all about globe earth, men landing on the moon, the moon being made of plasma etc etc - just go and look at the vastness of space. Read a magazine, like the BBC Sky at night; learn about planets, milky ways, stars, the sun etc. And then say "my Father made all that from nothing". The Psalmist said "the heavens declare the glory of God", and he only saw what he could see with his own eyes. God told Abraham to count the stars in the sky - if indeed they can be counted. That hints of a sky/solar system that is so big we can never know/see all of it.
Doesn't that fill you with a sense of awe, wonder and the sheer vastness, power and glory of God?
If not, there's nothing I can say to convince you - your God is too small.

When will you understand that some people have been into space, seen all this with their own eyes, walked on the moon and looked down at the earth - and then have become Christians? Neil Armstrong walked on the moon and it caused him to read a few verses from Genesis 1. He was giving glory to God by reading his word - watched by millions on television.
Doesn't all that tell you that, for many, studying space etc only leads them to realise that there really is a Creator, who is awesome?
If not, there's nothing I can say to convince you - your God is too small.

as this is all the evidence.
You think that planets, the milky way etc is evidence that God is being hidden?
On the contrary; they reveal more of God's power, glory and creativity than we can ever know or understand.

The only thing that is bigger than God's vast, beautiful, powerful, awesome universe is the love that he has for each one of us - even though we are but specks of dust on weighing scales.
I feel sorry for you if you can't see how awesome God's creation, and therefore God, is
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Preliminary data from July 2025 confirms that illegal crossings have collapsed to all-time lows. Apprehensions along the Southwest border for the entire month of July were lower than the daily average under the Biden administration. This is also the third consecutive month with zero USBP releases into the interior.


Thanks Homan!
Looks like he's capturing all the amateurs. Good for him, but he may not be the man MAGA wants for the job after all. I saw him on TV right after that staged raid on the marijuana farm. There were children being exploited on that farm and he knows there are other children being exploited on other farms that he has to leave alone, and I don't think he was very happy about it.
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The MRI was a flop

Just an update. I had my MRI today finally. They gave me a lorazepam and I was able to hang in there this time. Still was difficult but I made it. I feel like I got a hangover from the pill though. :sick: I’d still appreciate prayers for good results. :praying: Thank you.
Lorazepam is Ativan a somewhat short acting benzo. I am disappointed that you had a hangover

Maybe next time they should try alprazolam which is Xanax. It should be shorter acting and less chance of hangover

Hope your results are good
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Those are who this Administration is targeting. Sanctuary cities are turning hard criminals back out onto the streets; but hopefully Bondi puts an end to that soon.

“I just sent Sanctuary City letters to 32 mayors around the country and multiple governors saying, you better be abiding by our federal policies and with our federal law enforcement, because if you aren’t, we’re going to come after you,” she told a Fox News reporter.

Too bad she doesn't send letters like that to big ag.
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Futurist Only Leaving a Rapture note for unbelieving family

I gave my views, as well as the views of millions of others Christians. You gave yours.

The church has many different denominations cause of their differences in theologies / belief's / interpretations of many scriptures.

The book of Revelation is believed to had been written some point in the 90 ADs but before 97 AD. It is believed to have been written in the late years of the life of the Apostle John on the island of Plasmos.



The time span between when Paul wrote his letters and John wrote his has no bearing on truth, and 30 years is a very small time frame. Just as the time span between the Old Testament and the New Testament has no bearing on truth. And I am referring to time span not differences in beliefs.
Paul was instructing a Church, Paul did not say "In a future book of the bible that'll be written decades from now when some of you will be dead, (including me!) they'll explain what the last trumpet is, trust me bro"

Paul was referencing something already in scripture, not something that was yet to be written.
If the Bereans had found that Paul was introducing new doctrines without being backed by the Old Testament with Paul saying "trust me there will be a book of scripture written later that'll cover this" they'd have stoned him to death (and rightly so)
Now if you believe Jesus is the one blowing the horn that is for you to believe and those who believe like you. the Bible does not state Jesus is going to blow the horn. The horn is with him just like his angels are with him and the Bible specifically says the angel will blow the seventh trumpet.
I just quoted scripture that shows that the Lord God blows the Trumpet, and Jesus said He would send His angels with the sound of the trumpet. Directly referencing the passage that said the Lord God would blow the Trumpet.

This is not an "opinion" this is the written revelation of God saying it.

How do you see this:
14 And the Lord shall be seen over them, and his arrow shall go forth as the lightning: and the Lord God shall blow the trumpet, and shall go with whirlwinds of the south.
yes
this
and the Lord God shall blow the trumpet
and say "well that's just your opinion that Jesus blows the trumpet"

And if you believe in what John Nelson Darby / Margaret McDonald began to teach in the 19th century concerning the pre-tribulation rapture, which took almost complete hold of the church in the 1950s that is your right to do so. At least half of the Christian's disagree. There are Christians who believe and as you in pre, there are those who believe in mid, and there are those like me who believe in post tribulation rapture.
I never supported pre-tribulationism. Not in the slightest. The passage I gave from Zechariah 9 is clear that they are in Tribulation, and Jesus coming to the rescue is the end of tribulation (and the beginning of the Wrath of God, see Matthew 24:29-30 and compare it to Revelation 6:12-17, which comes AFTER the 5th seal, which is.. great tribulation. See Revelation 7:14, this is the end of great tribulation, and the beginning of something else.. the Lord's great day of Wrath Revelation 6:17)

I'm not going to touch on anything else you said, the Bible tells us don't have words over scripture as I said at the beginning you stated your views and I've stayed in mine, have a good day.
It also says that Iron sharpens iron, and it never said not to meditate over and discuss scripture.
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