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NxNW · 2025-08-11T14:53:28-0500

Hvizsgyak said:
Ok, now you are either lying or you don't know what you are talking about but what the "common man" gets from listening to alot in the scientific community is humans started out as single celled organisms

No scientists are saying that.

Hvizsgyak said:
and over a long long long period of time, we evolved into what we are today. Am I missing something here.

Yes, a basic understanding of science.

NxNW · 2025-08-11T14:52:12-0500

Hvizsgyak said:
Stop with your scientific talk "you're confusing hypothesis with theory". Use "common man" language if you want someone to understand you.

Words have meanings in this context, and you appear to be deliberately misusing them to make a dishonest argument.

Hvizsgyak said:
In "common man language hypothesis and theory are the exact same - an idea. And one has certain facts to back up their idea. You have an idea and these are the facts used to back it up - period.

There are no facts to back up creationism.

Hvizsgyak said:
So many certain scientist have an idea that humans began as a single celled organism miraculously put together in a primordial soup.

No scientists support that idea.

Hvizsgyak said:
Higher Power people have many theories but this is the one I will use and that is that a Higher Power created or manipulated humans (miraculously or by doing something with their genes). Not many facts to go on right now but it is worth pursuing because it makes good sense.

Why not go with the idea that has the most facts?

3 Resurrections · 2025-08-11T14:50:14-0500

AdB said:
And looking at it in that way the bow may point to His conquest of the world is in an indirect manner through the believers, and also cgoing through the air" as indication of the work of the Holy Spirit...

Yes, in truth I think this is how Christ the white horse rider went forth "conquering and to conquer". It also brings to mind the language in Psalms 45:1-7.

"My heart is inditing a good matter: I speak of the things which I have made touching the king: my tongue is the pen of a ready writer. Thou art fairer than the children of men: grace is poured into thy lips: therefore God hath blessed thee for ever. Gird thy sword upon thy thigh, O most mighty, with thy glory and thy majesty. And in thy majesty ride prosperously because of truth and meekness and righteousness; and thy right hand shall teach thee terrible things. Thine arrows are sharp in the heart of the king's enemies; whereby the people fall under thee. Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre. Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows."

We know that this text is describing Christ the crowned King as the Son of God, because Hebrews 1:8-9 credits this language to Him specifically.

essentialsaltes · 2025-08-11T14:48:27-0500

~~Political Campaign~~ Trump Org Store. White House. All the same thing.

In a social media video, Trump is seen proudly displaying the new items to Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev, featuring caps emblazoned with "Trump 2028" and "4 more years."

During the footage, Trump is heard boasting, "Everyone wants me to run again," to which Aliyev replies, "including us."

"There are methods which you could do it," Trump mused during a phone interview with NBC News from his Mar-a-Lago estate in March.

During a fiery exchange on CNBC this week, Trump broached the subject of a third term, indicating he would "probably not" pursue it.

Tropical Wilds · 2025-08-11T14:48:14-0500

Valletta said:
Cops share photo of 'Big Balls' attacker who beat up DOGE worker

Edward 'Big Balls' Coristine was beaten up during an attempted carjacking in DC on August 3. Two of the teens allegedly responsible were arrested and a third is being hunted by police.

www.dailymail.co.uk

One carjacking constitutes a crime crisis? How many school shootings until we have a gun crisis? Apparently it’s more than 751.

cingolani_c · 2025-08-11T14:47:00-0500

A small town in Western Pennsylvania.

Strong in Him · 2025-08-11T14:42:08-0500

Apple Sky said:
Yes I have, don't you read the thread

No, you haven't.
I asked this question on post #1,971; your latest comment was post # 1,991.

Strong in Him said:
Isaiah 22:18 says, "he will roll YOU up tightly like a ball", so what is the significance of quoting that in relation to the shape of the earth?
The Bible mentions the word "ball" - so?

It cannot be literal anyway: a) God may have punished, or exiled, that man; he did not "roll him up", b) if you roll something you get a sausage shape, not a ball.

Where is your answer to this and your response to my observation that this is not literal?

In post # 1,969, you said;

Apple Sky said:
There are two verse's which says Circle and the other says ball.

Isaiah 40:22 & the other say's

Isaiah 22:18
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjVwe7P04KPAxUyWEEAHb5XBa0QFnoECBoQAQ&url=https://biblehub.com/isaiah/22-18.htm&usg=AOvVaw2siyGQ9YI0TWtU3kCl-uri&opi=89978449
The word circle cannot mean ball, therefore when God says he sits on the circle of the earth it must be true.

The word "ball" in this verse has nothing to do with the shape of the earth. God is talking to a MAN and says what he will do to him.
So why post a verse from the Bible that mentions the word "ball" when it has no connection at all to what we are talking about?

DaisyDay · 2025-08-11T14:41:51-0500

Hans Blaster said:
Oh, I think it had the result Guiliani and his backers wanted. See for example the precursor that lead to his election:

Patrolmen's Benevolent Association Riot - Wikipedia

Yeah, I remember that. Giuliani was jumping on cars. There were signs calling Mayor Dinkins a washroom attendant.

essentialsaltes · 2025-08-11T14:38:22-0500

US veterans agency lost thousands of ‘core’ medical staff under Trump, records show

Departures are exacerbating existing shortages and creating ‘very unsafe’ conditions for patients, veterans and health workers say

The Department of Veterans Affairs has lost thousands of healthcare professionals deemed “core” to the system’s ability to function and “without which mission-critical work cannot be completed”, agency records show.

The number of medical staff on hand to treat veterans has fallen every month since Donald Trump took office. The VA has experienced a net loss of 2,000 registered nurses since the start of this fiscal year, the data show, along with approximately 1,300 medical assistants, 1,100 nursing assistants and licensed practical nurses, 800 doctors, 500 social workers and 150 psychologists.

durangodawood · 2025-08-11T14:34:04-0500

wing2000 said:
....What is the emergency?

Whatever he needs it to be.

perplexed · 2025-08-11T14:30:47-0500

Postvieww said:
What I believe happened is the powers that be at the time plotted to hinder the first Trump administration and to prevent him from being elected the second time. The hunted has now become the hunter and many beloved players in the liberal cabal are soon to fall. The party is over. The grand juries and subpoenas are just beginning. Enjoy the show.

Wow, we really do not live on the same planet and perhaps neither of us are living on earth.

Jackson Makawa Ghama · 2025-08-11T14:30:23-0500

Should modern churches look and feel like the early church in Acts, or is it right for them to adapt to culture and technology?

essentialsaltes · 2025-08-11T14:29:30-0500

Oompa Loompa said:
Could you please provide any information in the Epstine files that remotely suggests Trump's illegal activities or involvement with Jeffery Epstine?

Vambram is making the stronger claim that Trump's name does not appear at all.

iluvatar5150 · 2025-08-11T14:27:46-0500

essentialsaltes said:
Redevelop them into casinos?

I hear Atlantic City is doing great these days.

Tropical Wilds said:
I was just there last week for two weeks with one of my kids, relying entirely on Lyft drivers, public transportation (bus, metro), and walking. The city was clean, well-maintained, and felt incredibly safe, even after hours. The traffic was awful, but overall it felt cleaner and safer there than it felt in Boston, Hartford, NYC, Dallas, Ft. Worth, Miami, Orlando, Burlington, Denver, and Oklahoma City. It is your standard big city with big city problems, though certainly not in a way that distinguishes itself as dramatically, or even slightly worse, than any other big city.

Ironically, had this announcement been made before I left, I would have cancelled my son's ticket because this feels suspiciously like the actions of an authoritarian police state and the giant step towards a combustible scenario where it's leadership vs. the citizens. The action feels more unsafe than the problem they're trying to apparently combat...

Unless he's talking about the crime spike that occurred 1/6/21, or the release of violent criminals that occurred on 1/20/25, both of which were his doing... So maybe he should call the National Guard on himself.

Yeah, we were there for a weekend a few months ago. We walked everywhere. It was fine.

Hoping2 · 2025-08-11T14:25:47-0500

Dan Perez said:
Because the bible says it wIll PASS AWAY and here is the verse IN 1 Cor 13:8. !!

# 1 LOVE // AGAGE. ,is. in the Nominative Case , in. the Singular. .

# 2 NEVER //. OVDEPOTE , is an. Adverb

# 3. FAILETH //. EKPIPTO. , is. in the Greek. PRESENT TENSE , in the. ACTIVE VOICE , in. the INDICATIVE MOOD , IN THE Singular

# 4 BUT //. DE , is. an Conjuncation

# 5. WHETHER //. EITE , is. a Conjuncation

# 6. PROPHECIES. // PROPHETEIA. , is in. the Nominative Case , in the Plural

# 7 THEY SHALL FAIL // KATARAEO in the Future Tense , in. the Passive Voice , means that Christ will shut it down

# 8 WHETHER. // EITE. , is a Conjucation

#. 9 TONGUES //. GLOSSA. , in the NOMINATIVE CASE , in. the Plural

# 10. THEY SHALL CEASE // PAUO. , in the FUTUE TENSE. , in the Middle Voice , in the Indicative Mood , which

means you BETTER BELIEVE IT , in the Plural

# 11. WHETHER. // EITE. , is a Conjuncation

# 12 KNOWLED. // GNUSIS. , in. the Nominative Case , in the Singular

#. 13 IT WILL VANISH AWAY //. KATARGEO. , is in the FUTURE TENSE , in the Passive Voice ,

in the Indicative Mood , means you better believe IT ,

And anyone says the have seen anyone speak in tongues. , what will you believe ??

And Paul wrote also verse 9. , 10 , 11 says you are an INFANT since these things have PASSED AWAY. !!

And remember that this. ASSEMBLY is is fairly new and in 1 Cor 3 :2 I gave you MILK. and not SOLID FOOD. , Why ??

dan p

The gifts will pass away, at the return of Jesus with His flaming angels.
Then there will no longer be a need to speak in tongues of angels or the tongues of men.
Then we will no longer need to heal or cast devils out.

Hoping2 · 2025-08-11T14:21:57-0500

chevyontheriver said:
Jesus prayed that a particular cup pass him by. But it didn’t. You are not greater than Jesus.

Jesus put qualifiers on His request...that it should be His Father's will.
When I pray that Father will not allow me to be in any situation where I would need to use violence against someone, I understand that all my prayers will be answered according to my Father's will.
I am no greater than Jesus.
It is written..."It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord." (Matt 10:25)

essentialsaltes · 2025-08-11T14:21:14-0500

"possibly" of "interest" in this thread, with regard to "cognitive" ability.

PloverWing · 2025-08-11T14:20:17-0500

2PhiloVoid said:
Somehow, I don't think Paul thought of it in that way. But hey, there's a better way to excise this passage by applying the Documentary Hypothesis or other intensive Critical studies of the Bible. If we want to do that.

I'd be happy enough to put on my Liberal Hat and appeal to the Documentary Hypothesis, but I don't think it helps to resolve this particular problem. Regardless of how many literary layers are in Genesis, and regardless of whether this story is history or legend or somewhere in between, the author(s) of Genesis included it in their book because they saw it as telling us about God and about God's relationship with humans. So even if it's a fictional story, we still have to deal with it.

2PhiloVoid said:
We can also choose to think that because it seems fanciful in its awefulness, it must be a "fireside chat." Or we can apply some moderate historiography and consider that even if the story is legendary, it might be conveying an inverted precedent----------------that is, that God, by asking Abraham to prove his faith, also, at the same time, set up a typology of salvation AND.........AND..............established the point that God is never going to ask anyone to sacrifice their own children. (And I don't care what some folks think they find in Ezekial to the contrary).

The point is, the Akedah was a purposeful one-off event, to set up a pattern of meaning for the future, culminating in a fulfillment by Christ.

The Liturgist said:
The problem with that interpretation is that it is not sufficiently Christological.

If we read Genesis as Christological prophecy, according to Luke 24, rejecting any prior meaning the text might have had to practitioners of Judaism and instead regarding the book as being about Christ, which is what we clearly should do, based on the words of Christ our True God, we can surmise that:

I agree with both of you that the story ends with Isaac NOT being sacrificed, and that this sets an important precedent.

I don't know what I think of seeing this Genesis event/story as a Christological prophecy. This connection is why the story shows up in our lectionary readings for the Easter Vigil, and I see how Christians make the connection. I'll acknowledge this way of reading the passage (and it's not like I've got a better alternative to offer), but I'm not currently comfortable with it.

I would love it if we knew exactly what Jesus said on the road to Emmaus.

2PhiloVoid said:
Now, again, I know I'm just preaching to the choir. You're a highly educated sister, and I realize that. But it seems that too many folks these days all too easily adapt and impute to the biblical text their own "reader-response" interpretation because..............well, we now live in a postmodern and socialist leaning world where everyone can no longer bring in the heavier consideration of Philosophy. And I always put Philosophy and all of its environment (Hermeneutics, Epistemology, Historiography, Textual Criticism, etc.) before Theology.

Well, I did say that we needed to bring a philosopher into this discussion. :oldthumbsup:

GoldenBoy89 · 2025-08-11T14:18:04-0500

essentialsaltes said:
Trump extends China tariff deadline by 90 days

It’s not even taco Tuesday yet.

Oompa Loompa · 2025-08-11T14:17:59-0500

FreeinChrist said:
Yep.

This is the part where you provide a source or evidence to prove your assertion. Personally, I think Trump may be mentioned on some of the documents, but nothing showing any criminal activity. Just because someone's name is in the documents, it doesnt make them a pedophile. Otherwise, Bill and Hillary are pedophiles, Oprah Winfrey, is a pedophile, and even the pilot of Epstine's jet is a pedophile. All guilty in the liberal court of public opinion (aka. The leftist mob.)

Oompa Loompa · 2025-08-11T14:17:06-0500

FreeinChrist said:
That is delusional thinking on your part.

Could you please provide any information in the Epstine files that remotely suggests Trump's illegal activities or involvement with Jeffery Epstine?

DaisyDay · 2025-08-11T14:16:50-0500

Clare73 said:
Are you unaware that "minor" is the path to "major" crime?

You really think martial law is the solution to minor crime?

Clare73 said:
Study how Mayor Giuliani so successfully reduced crime in NYC.

Oddly, crime went down by approximately the same amount in most major US cities meaning that Giuliani's tactic of trampling citizens' rights based on race/ethnicity, gender, age and neighborhood traumatized a generation of young men for no good reason.

Hoping2 · 2025-08-11T14:14:45-0500

Aaron112 said:
If someone trusts man/men, The Creator is Pleased to curse that one who puts trust in man.

I agree, with the caveat that God has given the church pastors, prophets, and teachers, for His teachings.
No man will be cursed for heeding the words of His bishops.

iluvatar5150 · 2025-08-11T14:14:41-0500

Oompa Loompa said:
I dont understand. The vast majority of homeless people on the street either have drug addictions, mental illnesses, or both. Wouldn't you want them off the street and in institutions where they received treatment, food, and shelter while simultaneously ensuring their safety and the safety of the public? Liberals want to defund the police and send social workers instead of cops. Why not a compromise in which the cops are sent to bring them to the social workers?

Where are you getting these social workers from? TrumpDogeCo just axed funding for a bunch of stuff like that.

Oompa Loompa said:
Regardless, for being the people's capital, it is not a good place to live.

I guess that's why property values are so low.

/s

JustaPewFiller said:
I will give you that..

It has been some years since I was there. Maybe it has changed. I had some business nearby and after that was ended my wife flew up so we could spend a few days in DC.

I remember we were going to see the Naval Observatory (VP's house) and I found a shortcut on the map. Wow - burned out cars. abandoned buildings, thugs hanging around on the street corners. It literally looked like we were in another city or in another part of the world. A few blocks later, everything was back to normal again. But, I admit I've never ran as many stop signs as I did in those few blocks. Needless to say, we did not go back to the hotel that way.

One of those things where when it was nice, it was very nice. But, when it was bad, it was very bad.

lol, what's "some years"? 30? 40?

ozso said:
Washington DC should be the most crime free pristine area in America.

The parts with the federal buildings are.

Oompa Loompa said:
This is interesting.

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It appears that the liberals biggest argument turns out to be a lie. Yet again.

It would appear that, within the DCPD, somebody is retaliating against somebody else. Maybe they are juking their stats; maybe they aren't and that's merely retaliation for the EEOC complaint.

Either way, The Wire already addressed this subject:

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DC's homicides are also down 30%.

cingolani_c · 2025-08-11T14:13:54-0500

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