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Trump third term

I didn’t ask you about Democrat leadership, I asked about the president.

I’m trying to understand why it is you accept such childish behavior from someone in such an important position. Do you think it doesn’t matter?
You do realize there is very little in the political spectrum we are going to agree on. What you call childish behavior by Trump is his response to the same kind of behavior from liberals who tee up the ball for him to knock out of the park. Trump is trolling gullible liberals who continually give him reason to do so. You spend all of your time complaining about Trump while ignoring the provocations of liberals.
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Is it OK to use the 'F' word?

Vulgar language is, I'm sorry to say, a failing of mine. Colossians 3:8 calls for believers to put away filthy language, so I'm without excuse. Maybe i don't lapse into military grade invective as much now - maybe. Yet I still do on occasion. That's not good.

That included the F word. It might come up more in casual conversation now, but the word hasn't lost its crude meaning or invective overtones. Granted that words change in meaning (at one time the F word and some others considered vile didn't have that connotation in English, though that does not hold for all such words. The point is what the words mean now and where. The "B" word is seen as a curious British and Australian invective to American ears, but that doesn't mean it's fine for an American to use it in British or Australian company.
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Trump third term

The president joking about ignoring the 22 amendment, even selling merch about doing it , you know the topic of the thread. Now, what other parts of the constitution are funny to joke about ignoring?
Sorry you just don’t get the fact that Trump is trolling gullible liberals because they give him the ammunition to do so.
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Bioluminescence

Fireflies use extremely efficient bioluminescence which outperforms our current lighting systems.

Although scientists are developing more efficient lighting, partly based on the design of fireflies.


Fireflies produce light with remarkable efficiency, converting between 41% and nearly 100% of the energy from a chemical reaction directly into light. This is significantly more efficient than human-made incandescent light bulbs, which lose about 90% of their energy as heat.
The high efficiency of bioluminescence in fireflies is because they produce "cold light," meaning very little energy is lost as thermal energy.
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Meditation

The path to holiness proceeds through stages. Christian meditation should rightfully begin in the first stage (called the Purgative Stage, or Stage of the Beginner) of this journey. What is formed in the soul by virtue of Christian (discursive) meditation establishes a crucial part of the foundation upon which and from which can emerge in the second stage, infused contemplation. The prayer of quiet (mentioned by JimR above) is a "substage" of the broader and general category of (infused) contemplation which is to be found in the second stage - a stage which is called the Illuminative Stage (or Stage of the Proficient) - it is here that the supernatural is experienced - and if given, is "infused", certainly not earned or developed by any natural works of the pilgrim.

I'm trying to say that the terms "meditation" and "contemplation" are mangled and abused beyond usefulness, and when used as they typically are, only confuse an understanding that is good to possess, in the journey of prayer. We can do meditation. God alone can give infused contemplation.

Forgive me please for dropping all these terms upon you, if they are new to you, but there is much misunderstanding of exactly how the interior life grows and matures. Labels and terms can sound and can be cold, academic, and far from the delicate and mystical Spirit who is at work within, in holy Love. Maturation in prayer IS maturation in divine Love and is most beautiful, an embrace of God within the soul. It ought - and deserves - to be sought with one's whole heart. And the seeking can be greatly aided by learning from the saints, and from the God-appointed witnesses and teachers of the journey.
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Would you get rid of daylight saving time?

It's about more daylight time for activities after one gets home from work.
Which is was my father' observation about congressmen and golf. That's not how it was sold to the public, though. Part of that is we no longer rely on natural lighting like we did when Franklin woke one morning and observed his room was flooded with sunlight despite the early hour.
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When You Lose Interest In A Series You Once Liked

Not new episodes of series you like, but when you revisit an episode you once did. I was a Star Trek fan from when the original episodes first aired. Tonight I found one of my favorite TOS episodes on, The Trouble with Tribbles. I watched it and didn't enjoy it that much. There were mildly amusing moments, such as Spock declaring himself immune to the trilling effect of tribbles, all while he was stroking one (and this was noticed by his shipmates), and Kirk's dressing down of Scotty for the brawl. But...I didn't enjoy it. This is was an episode that never failed to delight, until now. Obviously it's myself that changed, not the episode.

Has this happened to you? Have you gone back to an episode of a series or a film that you once liked, but now find it kind of "meh?"
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My Public Library Card

I guess I have bad luck with printers. They seem to have a working life span of about six months for me. I own four of them, and none of them work, so I drive to the nearby library a couple of times a year when I need to print or copy something.

Many years ago, my local public library went high tech. It used to have a copy machine where if I needed to make a paper copy, I put a dime in the slot and pushed "Copy". It was blissfully easy. Now to make a copy or print from online, I have to set the new machine up by pushing a bunch of icons I don't understand and have to ask for human help with, but worse, I have to enter my password and my user ID. The user ID they gave me is 14 numerals long. That represents tens of trillions, which I think is just shy of the number of stars in the observable universe, or at any rate, a good deal larger than the population of my city.

I asked some AI why the number needs to be so long, and it gave me strange answers with contradictions in it. Anyway, this is just a rant. I hate the modern world. I still love the library, though. :)
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Hubble Constant (Ho) fixed to light speed, C and calculated as 71 k/s/Mpc. God did it!!

OP has been making this argument online since (at least) early 2018.

They seem to have gone on a posting bender about this topic in the last few months or so.

So far, they do not appear to have taken onboard any of the manifold corrections on offer from various math, cosmology, astronomy and general science forums. Nor those of PhD theoretical physicists...
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Trump live updates: President expands ‘narco’ boat strikes to Pacific Ocean as 8th boat is struck

I see. So if they have been told that they are going to be arrested, charged with smuggling drugs and read their rights but they then try to escape and open fire on the police then the police are authorised to use all necessary force. I think I understand.

So I guess that the officers who suspected that a crime had been comitted would be in serious trouble if they simply killed them without any warning whatsoever.

Do we agree?
No. We don’t agree. You blame the cops, I blame the drug traffickers.
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Prominent Northern Ireland cleric calls for King Charles to abdicate after prayer with pope

Years ago I worked with an Irish chap in the post office. It was back in the late 70's and early 80's, which was the time of the "troubles".

The topic came up now and again in discussions, especially if there was news of another bombing, and subsequent arrests. He always maintained we knew nothing about it, and I suppose we didn't as we hadn't lived through it.

I don't know if he was from the north or south, but he had a definite Irish accent. Much later I happened to see a eulogy in "The Catholic Leader", our local Catholic paper (now only online as far as I know) as he did a lot of charitable work.
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Average consumer now carries $6,329 in credit card debt. 'People are stretched,' expert says

there appears to be a lack of evidence he ever did say the quote.
Again it's a summary of his writings. It's not that difficult to understand.

How did you like that last Keynes quote? Did you like that one more?

How about this one?:


"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavour to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln in a letter from to Col. William F. Elkins, November 21, 1864

I don't need Abe to tell me about what I can see with my own eyes.
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Average consumer now carries $6,329 in credit card debt. 'People are stretched,' expert says

@Richard T this is a tiny home development in Texas. He visited it a year ago and returned. I‘m including a few screenshots. He went inside several. Wow the thumbnail says it all. The house‘s width is a smidge more than the three of them combined.

MORE TINY HOMES IN TEXAS ARE SELLING OUT - IS THIS THE NEW AMERICAN DREAM OF HOME OWNERSHIP?

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Beats internment camps. I've been helping the growing homeless population. They are saying that homeless people are mysteriously disappearing.
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An EBT Crisis?

I'm good and I'm ok if you don't watch them. They are simply videos I think are informative and wanted to share.
Okay. For the record, my experiences include whites also. A long time ago, I once sat next to a young white girl at a dive bar. I was planning on buying our beers, but she said she'd get the tab. When we were done she paid the owner/bartender with food stamps. While doing so she looked at me with a big smile on her face. She thought it was funny. I thought it was disgusting. As we sat there drinking, somewhere there's a hard-working minimum wage worker getting money taken from his pay to buy our beers. I also later learned that she lived with her parents, and her father was a retired Air Force Colonel, who receive very handsome pensions. I've known other whites who abuse the system.

And what makes it worse is that the available money is limited, it's not infinite. People who cheat are taking away available money from people who really need it. And that works with other kinds of cheating, too. There's a white couple on my block who have two cars, both with permanent handicapped parking license plates. I see them jogging with their dogs when they walk them. They have a Ski Nautique in their driveway, which if you don't know, is a boat dedicated for use in water skiiing. People who buy those use them for skiing, not fishing or general recreational boating. So when these people park in a disabled person's spot, they may be taking that spot from a disabled person who actually needs it. This stuff happens.
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Average consumer now carries $6,329 in credit card debt. 'People are stretched,' expert says

It is the evidence that he said such a thing. It is a summary of his writings, of his understanding, of the many flaws of fiat currency.

It is not evidence at all he said the quote you claimed he did. Even if we take the (apparently AI-derived) text you posted as absolutely correct--which one should not do with AI unless they have independently verified the information--all it does is says he had issues with paper money, but does not say he said the quote, and in fact acknowledged there appears to be a lack of evidence he ever did say the quote.

Again, your own source is unable to offer evidence he said the quote. You now seem to be trying to argue that the quote worked as a summary of his views, but again even if that is true, that doesn't make it a quote. That makes it... a summary. You did not present it as a summary, but as an actual quote. One should not try to present a summary of someone's views as an actual quote of the person.
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Average consumer now carries $6,329 in credit card debt. 'People are stretched,' expert says

It still provides no evidence he ever said such a thing.
It is the evidence that he said such a thing. It is a summary of his writings, of his understanding, of the many flaws of fiat currency.

If you don't like that one; here's another Keynesian one:

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British Lord John Maynard Keynes (the father of 'Keynesian Economics' which our nation now endures) in his book "THE ECONOMIC CONSEQUENCES OF THE PEACE" (1920).
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