timothyu said:

Hebrews denoted the tempter as an “evil urge”. The onus is still on us.

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We can not unbind what God Himself has bound us to in this present life:

Romans 11:32
For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

No one, no, not one gets off the hook. God has technically never forgiven a single sin of the devil and his messengers and will not ever.

So any notions that "our sin" is forgiven whilst all the other people who "don't believe like me" are going to fry alive forever is simply the hypocrisy and lies of the devil being played out in the carriers of same.

Tricky little devil that he is.

Aseyesee said:

It was never more then an image

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So your own image then? Is that what you're saying?

And past tense, as in was, meaning no longer applicable?

You get the point yet?

Aseyesee said:

I was deceived of my soul

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There's an issue at hand here. IF this deception is merely "me" or "you"

THEN

Jesus was tempted by Himself, as there technically is no Satan as an adversary that is different from the person.

Are we creeping up on this thing yet or will you still insist that you used to be your own adversary but have now transcended?

timothyu said:

The onus is still on us.

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Yes, agreed.

Apple Sky said:

It was all paid for by the space agencies or NASA,

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It was organised, and paid for, by a Christian Pastor - though given your habit of calling Christians, "liars" you probably don't believe him either.

Apple Sky said:

it was all done on a green screen

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Evidence?

Apple Sky said:

I bet they were all paid handsomely for filming it.

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You "bet" they were.
Do you know, and what's your address so that I can come and collect my winnings?

Apple Sky said:

You see NASA has a lot to lose if the truth ever got out

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Rubbish.
i) you have no evidence, ii) you have previously said that NASA are liars and untrustworthy, and now you're sticking up fr them.

Apple Sky said:

how convenient for them that Dean didn't go else their plans would have been foiled.

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Other Flat Earthers went and saw the 24 hour sun - some of whom have had the humility to say that they were wrong about the 24 hour sun ad needed to think again. They may still not accept a globe earth, but they know what they saw.

Apple Sky said:

They had to ask Dean or show they had asked him for face value.

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Rubbish.

A Christian Pastor organised the Antarctic trip, not NASA.

The trip was part of a project called the Final Experiment organized by Will Duffy, a pastor from Colorado

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The expedition, which took three years of preparation, was organized by Will Duffy, an American Christian pastor

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The Final Experiment (or TFE) is an endeavor created by Will Duffy to end the debate by bringing flat earthers and globers together to collaborate on a single experiment with an agreed-upon interpretation

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Globe earthers and flat earthers head to Antarctica to settle reality​

A U.S. pastor is sponsoring a trip to give participants conclusive evidence

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fide said:

The publisher, LTP: "LTP is a premier publisher of liturgical and pastoral materials in English and Spanish. Established by the Archdiocese of Chicago in 1964, LTP promotes the liturgical formation of the faithful...." gives me cause for immediate concern. The Ordinary of the Archdiocese is Card. Blaise J. Cupich:
"Pope Francis appointed Cardinal Cupich to the Dicastery for Bishops in 2016, the Dicastery for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments in 2022, and the Dicastery for Culture and Education in 2024. Cardinal Cupich also serves on the USCCB Committee on Migration and the Subcommittee for the Church in Central and Eastern Europe. ..."

Chicago is a very dark place, a center of formation in deformation in Church history. The Church-related history of Chicago since Vatican II is a study in deep and dark troubles. See "A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing" - the central character, Saul Alinsky, and his book "Rules for Radicals", continue today to be of significant relevance in our Church and in our country.
-- Two EWTN videos/studies described on these EWTN pages: SAINTS VS. SCOUNDRELS and A WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING.

I would recommend looking elsewhere for spiritual guidance.

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I couldn’t check for sure, but it looks like easier links to both videos thru EWTN are here:

Wolves in Sheep’s clothing here:
A WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING

And

Sheen vs. Alinsky, — parts 1 and 2 links here:
Saints vs. Scoundrels

fli said:

God clearly states that He gives us repentance.

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No, God did not "clearly" state that he "gives" repentance. He said that he "grants" repentance which means only that he gives access to repentance. It means that he doesn't bar people from repentance. He granted repentance to Israel.

"Him God has exalted to His right hand to be Prince and Savior, to grant repentance to Israel and forgiveness of sins." Acts 5:31

Yet the greater part of Israel did not repent. But God granted them to repent. They had access to repentance.

186. Closer to Jesus





We are invited to conversion, to live a meaningful relationship with God and to love the world:

“Let the words of my mouth meet with your favor, keep the thoughts of my heart before you, Lord, my rock and my redeemer.” Psalm 19, verse 15



And give back to my heart its freshness of youth!

Let’s convert, that is to say, be closer to Jesus, our shining Sun, and we’ll be ourselves in his Spirit and in his Life:

“Whenever a person turns to the Lord the veil is removed. Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

All of us, gazing with unveiled face on the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, as from the Lord who is the Spirit.” 2 Corinthians, chapter 3, verses 16 to 18



All means of conversion are good, since they unite us more to the Lord and to the neighbor. We will live a progression in faith. Jesus will be happy to tell us: “Follow me”.

It's like he's saying, “Learn to let go of what's hurting you and follow me. Give up what is futile by seeking personal glory and follow me. Forget your past revolts and follow me. Share my message with everyone while you follow me. Calm down tensions, play down crisis situations while you follow me. Watch in peace and joy as you follow me.”



The new American Bible, 2011-2014

Book: Up! Let's go!, Normand Thomas

David Lamb said:

I am sorry but I didn't mention the book of life. I just said that there were very few Jews in Philippi.

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We have been talking about whose names are written in the book of life. The names of Gentiles are not written there. And they're not written upon the gates of the New Jerusalem which they would be if they are in the book of life. See also the Old Testament. The book of life is about Jews.

And your claim that there were few Jews at Philippi is contrary to historical fact.

PatrickTate said:

My belief is that my old church the Worldwide Church of God made little or no effort to attempt to apply this basic principle.

"Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison." [Matthew 5:25]

I am trying to learn from the error that I saw Pastor General Herbert W. Armstrong making along that line. We were terribly incorrect regarding the State of the Dead and my policy is to just admit to this obvious fact.

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I remember briefly being involved with the world wide church of God back in 1985. I saw Herbert W Armstrong on TV and listened to his teaching on the Bible and subscribed to the Plain Truth magazine.
His argument that Britain and the USA were the lost tribes of Israel seemed convincing at the time, but on further examination did not add up, as also his argument for the Sabbath also did not. At the time, I went to a Plymouth brethren congregation. It was Colossians 2:16 that struck me. Mr Armstrong gave a self serving answer, as does the SDA, regarding that verse, which contradicts the plain reading of scripture.
It was not till I came here to Christian forums in 2003 that God lead me back to the Catholic Church and not until 2019, when I submitted to her full authority
It was a long journey. I can only tell you to pay close attention to where the Holy Spirit is leading you. You will be given choices to obey men or God along the way, and you may feel all alone
I pray that you get to the point where you can walk through the valley of the shadow of death and fear no evil, and you can say, as did Job, blessed is the man whom God chastises, he smites but he binds up, he wounds but his hands give healing. I will pray for you
Soul sleep is another issue that I believe is false. It causes many to ignore the past and gives the impression that only the opinions of those alive are what matters. It gives those in power the ability to rewrite the past in order to retain control as in Orwell’s novel 1984. We call that the heresy of modernism

Douggg said:

The arrival of the Antichrist. The person who becomes the Antichrist....

1. First becomes the leader over a panel of ten EU leaders. As the little horn person.

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Not in scripture

Douggg said:

2. Right after the Gog/Magog event, the little horn person arrives in Israel and the middle east, as "the prince that shall come" of Daniel 9:26. Bringing with him the EU army on the premise of being a peace keeper in the region.

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EU is not in scripture

Douggg said:

3. The Jews will perceive him to be their long awaited king of Israel messiah. Coming in his own name, he will embrace the reception. And the false prophet will anoint him the king of Israel, thought-to-be messiah. He becomes the Antichrist at that moment.

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BBAS 64 said:

Good Day, Jack

There is no doubt that those that are dead as correctly defined:

2a) spiritually dead
2a1) destitute of a life that recognises and is devoted to God, because given up to trespasses and sins
2a2) inactive as respects doing right
2b) destitute of force or power, inactive, inoperative

Are indeed condemned...

That does not mean the word in the text has a definition of "condemned" that word does not mean condemned.

John 5:24 in the text uses a different word for condemned, then Paul uses in Eph for dead.

Lets stick to the words the text uses to convey ideas and truth.

Translation of the word Paull uses for Death as condemned is an error according to the plain (word) text he uses.

In Him

Bill

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There is no such thing as spiritual death.

Brightfame52 said:

No Man can come to Him

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None of the Jews to whom he was speaking, that is. "No one" just like "everyone" is qualified by the context.

Jack Terrence said:

That is a weak argument.

If the names of Gentiles were written in the book of life, then their names would be written upon the gates of the New Jerusalem also which they're not. What you're saying makes no sense.

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I am sorry but I didn't mention the book of life. I just said that there were very few Jews in Philippi. That, plus the fact that Paul, who wrote Philippians, was appointed as apostle to the gentiles, causes me to question how you can be so certain that the church at Philippi was a Jewish church.

A New Dawn said:

All scripture is God breathed and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof and for correction. No matter who Christ was talking to, it is applicable for all. Jews are not the only ones with their hearts hardened towards God.

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No, it is not applicable to all. Jesus said that the Ninevites (Gentiles) repented at the preaching of Jonah but the Jews even though they had miracles would not. Gentiles repented without miracles. Paul attributes the inability of the Jews to believe to the hardness of their hearts (Romans 10) and not to some perceived innate inability. Jesus said that many Gentiles would come from the East and the Werst to sit down at the banguet table with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. But he expected only a few of his own people to find the road to life.

The Gentiles did not have the long history of rebellion against God that the Jews had. The Jews were calloused. Gentiles were not. John 6 applied only to the Jews in that time.

David Lamb said:

Yet Philippi was a Roman colony, and there were few Jews living there. Add to that the fact that Paul was specifically sent by God to the Gentiles. I wonder how you can know with apparent certainty that the Philippians were Jewish believers.

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That is a weak argument.

If the names of Gentiles were written in the book of life, then their names would be written upon the gates of the New Jerusalem also which they're not. What you're saying makes no sense.

Henry walked around Italian inland.

ITAHO

In Matthew 24:32-34, Jesus said to learn the parable of the fig tree to know the time of His return. That generation would not pass away without seeing Jesus's return.

The fig tree represents Jerusalem, as Jesus cursed a fig tree beside the road for not having fruit as he and the disciples were entering Jerusalem the week he would be crucified, rejected by his own people the Jews.

In 1967, the Jews regained control of Jerusalem.

1967 + 70 years for a generation (Psalms 90:10) = 2037. Jesus will return by the end of 2037, not later than. We are living in the end times.

Apple Sky said:

It was all paid for by the space agencies or NASA, it was all done on a green screen which would have cost a small fortune & I bet they were all paid handsomely for filming it. You see NASA has a lot to lose if the truth ever got out & hmm, how convenient for them that Dean didn't go else their plans would have been foiled. They had to ask Dean or show they had asked him for face value.

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You have no idea how utterly unhinged you sound. You do realise they did a couple of simultaneous live streams in which they filmed each other in their live streams which made using a green screen impossible. They tried to think of every stupid argument the flat earthers would make to try and falsify the expedition and worked out things they could do that would prove those claims impossible.

Apple Sky said:

See post above.

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I just have, and responded to it.

Apple Sky said:

It was all paid for by the space agencies or NASA, it was all done on a green screen which would have cost a small fortune & I bet they were all paid handsomely for filming it. You see NASA has a lot to lose if the truth ever got out & hmm, how convenient for them that Dean didn't go else their plans would have been foiled. They had to ask Dean or show they had asked him for face value.

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But as usual, you just make the statement. "It was all paid for by the space agencies or NASA," with no evidence whatsoever. Also, I don't understand what you last sentence means: "They had to ask Dean or show they had asked him for face value." What did they have to ask Dean?

Apple Sky said:

Am I bothered ?

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Your Christian witness is shot. You should be bothered.

Apple Sky said:

That's b/c it was & you all refuse to believe this, even when I post videos of evidence for this.

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Every video you've posted has been nonsense, often demonstrating the opposite of what they set out to prove.

David Lamb said:

But if he is so certain that the earth is flat, why did he not go? You say that the whole thing was a scam, but surely, if he had gone, he would have been in a far stronger position to expose the scam, if it was a scam.

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See post above.

SabbatarrianSundayer said:

Jesus isn't our Sabbath commander; Paul is.
The Ministration of death, means the 10Cs, is that correct?
Means the 10Cs are abolished.
Can we sin, if 10 Cs are abolished? No. We have the law of Christ. Gal 6.2.
If Sabbath were still an issue; then why is there no mention, past Colossians?
No; you don't have Heb 4:9..

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Who teaches this stuff., not sure where to start.

Maybe at the top. "Jesus isn't our Sabbath commander; Paul is."

Whatever gave you this idea?