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timf · Aug 2, 2025

Scripture tells us what his will is. Also, "And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive." Similarly, Mark 11:24 says, "Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours." There are more.

We explain them away though due to life experiences, but these verses couldn't be any clearer.

It might not be a bad idea to consider who was saying what to whom. If promises made to Israel about what to expect in the earthly kingdom were about what they could expect then, it might not be as applicable to us today. That there was supernatural healing is undeniable, but it may have only been a "taste" of the age to come.

Heb 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

David Lamb · Aug 2, 2025

PatrickTate said:
I know that there is some controversy surrounding the general idea of Dominionism or The Seven Mountains Mandate that was explained by Dr. Lance Wallnau.

I have ran into a pretty simple explanation for this general idea in the near death experience of former Atheist Howard Storm. What Howard Storm reports being shown adds a clarity and a simplicity to astonishing predictions in Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel and in the Minor Prophets so I believe that digging into this can be greatly encouraging to all Christians.

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Does this verse refer only to the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus or does this refer to all statements in the Law, in the Prophets and in The Writings?

25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:" [Luke 24:25]

I particularly noticed the words: "It holds that there are seven aspects of society that believers seek to dominate: family, religion, education, media, arts and entertainment, business, and government."

I wonder where in the bible they get the idea that Christians are to dominate those seven aspects. There are certainly instructions about how the Christian should treat members of his own family, how they should engage in business, how they should pray for governments/world leaders, and so on, but nothing, as far as I am aware, to indicate that Christians are to seek to dominate the seven aspects.

timf · Aug 2, 2025

Gambling and losing only as much as you would pay for other entertainment (perhaps $5-10/hr.) might be seen as not harmful. However if your gambling contributes to others, the harm that comes to them might possibly be partially your fault. Consider the obligation Paul writes that we should have to a "weaker brother"

Gambling, like alcohol, causes harm. It is perhaps best avoided by Christians.

David Lamb · Aug 2, 2025

truthuprootsevil said:
Personally, from what I've witnessed and as it is written in scripture the whole world will see Jesus coming from the clouds with his angels, most will be calling it alien invasion!

When Christ comes again, I don't believe that there will be time for anyone to call it an alien invasion, and when He comes, He will be recognised, willingly or unwillingly:

“Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.” (Re 1:7 NKJV)

Not, "And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of an alien invasion."

BPPLEE · Aug 2, 2025

eclipsenow said:
He said, she said; all about commenters here; yawn.

Disproving what Michael Van Landingham has to say about his own team's Russian reports - that's another matter!

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Learning always · Aug 2, 2025

Laos adventurers often smell incense

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timf · Aug 2, 2025

The last 2,000 years of human history (including the damage to families) is just the result of Satan guiding the world into collective hierarchies so that he can leverage his influence. One might imagine that he used Western Civilization to develop the technology to aid in his attempt to control everyone. Now that he seems close to having the pieces in place to make his move, the last step would be to have us weaken ourselves so that we couldn't oppose his strategy. Here is an interest book, "The Satanic History of the World;

free pdf https://christianpioneer.com/videos/ebooks/Satanic_history_of_the_world_v1.pdf

web pages Christian Pioneer - The Satanic History of the World

David Lamb · Aug 2, 2025

Strong in Him said:
You will realise the truth about the globe earth one day, yes.
But as it has nothing to do with salvation or the way we live our Christian lives, it will make no difference.

But you will also be faced with the fact that you have called other Christians liars and implied, or stated that we/they don't believe Genesis. THAT is far more serious - for you.

I think that is the most important factor in our discussion - that whether we believe that the earth is a globe, a flat disc, a triangle a pyramid, or any other shape makes not the tiniest difference to whether we are saved or not. We are not any more or any less saved depending on our views of the shape of the earth.

Calling other Christians liars, or saying that they don't believe Genesis, simply because they believe differently to you on the shape of the earth cannot be right, as you say.

Bradskii · Aug 2, 2025

MrMoe said:
Okay, I’ll answer your question. No it’s not okay to bomb my house if a bad guy is holed up in it with my family as hostages. My question to you is what does that have to do with my comment about Israel?

I'm glad that we can agree that it would be immoral, if a bad guy uses innocent people as a shield, to make attempts to take him out if you know as a fact that those attempts will result in innocent women and children being killed.

Let's hope that everyone else agrees.

timf · Aug 2, 2025

The reason for me doubting morality is rooted in the way Christianity is portrayed through mainstream media. It's very counter intuitive to Christianity. I feel like it tries to over emphasize it without explaining the Word of God and including the Holy Spirit into teachings leaving everyone with less than nothing.

Satan runs the world (for now and insofar as he is allowed by God). One might expect that the world (including mainstream media) would not be interested in painting an accurate picture of Christianity. We also have the problem of Christianity as it was supposed to be versus how it is actually practiced.

In addition, Christianity should not be measured by morality. Israel was supposed to show the world morality by keeping the law. The law and morality help us to learn to limit the harm we do to others. Christianity was supposed to be about transcending the law by actively doing good for others. Morality was supposed to be incidental to Christianity.

Christianity was supposed to be about us becoming like Jesus and showing his selfless love to others. Sadly, we still mostly walk in the flesh. Some even try to make Christianity law like.

If you can dig past the baloney, you can find that in Christianity that is real, true, and of value.

stevevw · Aug 2, 2025

RDKirk said:
If you examine the Hebrew word for "help" used there and how it's used in the rest of the Old Testament, it becomes obvious that by "help" God meant "rescue"...because that's how the word is used in the rest of the Old Testament, in most cases referring to God Himself.

Ok if thats what it means. But it is Paul who refers to Adam being created first as one of the reasons. As though it is something inherent in Gods order regardless of the fall.

I was think about this and whether there would have been differenes between men and women before the fall in a similar way to we see now as far as the natural differences. Such as a man cannot be a women and a women cannot be a man. Or whether a women would still give birth or a man still have to work to tend the garden.

I think within God and through Christ there are innate differencs between men and women which gives them roles that each cannot fullfill. Not because of any power and control over the other but simply they are different. Like God the Father is different to God the Son and yet the same divinity and image.

God the Father could not have taken on the role of the Son. No more than a father of the family take the role of son or a wife and mother. It seems this imagry is reflected in how God reveals Himself to us as the loving Father and this is reflected in the father of the family.

That is why Abraham was first known as the Father of the family and then the ruler of the clan, and tribe and referred back to by the disciples as our Father of the Hebrews. That is why Peter says Sarah called Abraham lord. That is why the priesthood is passed from father to son as is the holy bloodline from Adam to Christ.

But this is also reflected in women and we have many examples of the pure obedience and respect as Christ did being subject to the Father. God says this is pleasing to Him. Peter says this is a good example to all women. He also says that this example can expose evil and turn people to God without a word and just by the pure example.

Women are also mothers and this can never be a vocation of men. Women as mothers, the caring nature and nurturing as Christs own mother had been so perfect for also makes this union what it is and without women, wives and mothers there could be no family and chucrh.

So there seems to be an inherent order reflected in Gods revealtion to us which is reflected in the relationships in marriage, the family and the church.

Benaiah468 · Aug 2, 2025

After two years of fighting and negotiations, during which Israel has mostly had at least one hand tied behind its back, the country seems to be stuck in a rut. Although 200 hostages, both living and dead, have been freed, many families of the remaining hostages, as well as the eternal Bibi haters, are demanding that Israel end the war in order to free the remaining (20 living; 30 dead), even if it means Hamas remains in power. Meanwhile, most nations blame Israel for starving the residents of Gaza, for committing genocide, or for other lies that these Jew-haters hear, even though in reality it is Hamas and the terrorist-friendly UN that are spreading these lies. I am often angry and frustrated with my country, Israel, because it seems to be fighting Hamas while at the same time trying to win the world's approval by submitting to its demands; including those of America. Israel needs G-d's direct supernatural intervention to win this war against Hamas.

Lord G-d, everything we pray for is so that You may ultimately be glorified

Not unto us, O Lord, not unto us, but unto thy name give glory, for thy mercy, and for thy truth's sake. Wherefore should the heathen say, Where is now their G-d? But our G-d is in the heavens: he hath done whatsoever he hath pleased. Ps 115:1-3

G-d, arise and let Your enemies who hate You and Your people be destroyed

Let G-d arise, let his enemies be scattered: let them also that hate him flee before him. Ps 68:1
Keep not thou silence, O G-d: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O G-d. For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head. They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones. They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance. Ps 83:1-4

Abba Father, most of the world has forgotten what Hamas actually did on Oct 7, so we ask You to remember it, to rise up and end Hamas' rule over Gaza once and for all

The angel of the Lord encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them. Ps 34:7
Thus saith the Lord; For three transgressions of Gaza, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because they carried away captive the whole captivity, to deliver them up to Edom: But I will send a fire on the wall of Gaza, which shall devour the palaces thereof: Amos 1:6-7

Lord, G-d of Israel, remember how You threatened the spiritual ancestors of Islam (Edom; Mount Seir) because of their eternal hatred of Your people, and fulfill this today

Because thou hast had a perpetual hatred, and hast shed the blood of the children of Israel by the force of the sword in the time of their calamity, in the time that their iniquity had an end: Therefore, as I live, saith the Lord G-d, I will prepare thee unto blood, and blood shall pursue thee: sith thou hast not hated blood, even blood shall pursue thee. Ezek 35:5-6

G-d of g-ds, against Hamas and all enemies of Israel, fulfill Deuteronomy 3:22 in the Sabbath section of the Torah: Ye shall not fear them: for the Lord your G-d he shall fight for you.

Abba, we are deeply distressed that IDF soldiers are dying just so that Hamas will negotiate the release of a few hostages, and we ask You, our King and G-d, to give Jacob the victory

Through thee will we push down our enemies: through thy name will we tread them under that rise up against us. Ps 44:5

Lord of lords, show Trump that a ceasefire is not victory and that for Muslims, a ceasefire, a hudna, is only an interruption of fighting until they are strong enough to kill their enemy

The words of his mouth were smoother than butter, but war was in his heart: his words were softer than oil, yet were they drawn swords. Ps 55:22

Lord G-d, in light of reports that the IDF is considering a change in tactics, be their guiding star

To give light to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace. Lk 1:79

and let any changes hasten the day when You end this war

He maketh wars to cease unto the end of the earth; he breaketh the bow, and cutteth the spear in sunder; he burneth the chariot in the fire. Ps 46:9

Abba Father, we ask You to completely devour the underground tunnels of Hamas

And it came to pass, as he had made an end of speaking all these words, that the ground clave asunder that was under them: Num 16:31

Lord G-d, fulfill Your word in Zechariah 9:5 Ashkelon shall see it, and fear; Gaza also shall see it, and be very sorrowful, and Ekron; for her expectation shall be ashamed; and the king shall perish from Gaza, and Ashkelon shall not be inhabited.

and remove the current “king” Hamas from Gaza.

At the same time, Lord Jesus, build Your body there and reign as the true King of Gaza

And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Mt 16:18

Almighty King, rescue all remaining hostages and free them from being used as human shields by Hamas and from weighing heavily on the hearts of the Israelis

And David recovered all that the Amalekites had carried away: and David rescued his two wives. And there was nothing lacking to them, neither small nor great, neither sons nor daughters, neither spoil, nor any thing that they had taken to them: David recovered all. 1 Sam 30:18-19
Shall the prey be taken from the mighty, or the lawful captive delivered? But thus saith the Lord, Even the captives of the mighty shall be taken away, and the prey of the terrible shall be delivered: for I will contend with him that contendeth with thee, and I will save thy children. And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and all flesh shall know that I the Lord am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob. Isa 49:24-26

Almighty G-d, if the outcome of this war depends on Israel's willingness to conquer all of Gaza, we ask You to move the Israelis and their leaders to do just that

And an angel of the Lord came up from Gilgal to Bochim, and said, I made you to go up out of Egypt, and have brought you unto the land which I sware unto your fathers; and I said, I will never break my covenant with you. And ye shall make no league with the inhabitants of this land; ye shall throw down their altars: but ye have not obeyed my voice: why have ye done this? Wherefore I also said, I will not drive them out from before you; but they shall be as thorns in your sides, and their g-ds shall be a snare unto you. And it came to pass, when the angel of the Lord spake these words unto all the children of Israel, that the people lifted up their voice, and wept. Judg 2:1-4
A man's heart deviseth his way: but the Lord directeth his steps. Prov 16:9

timf · Aug 2, 2025

The soul might be seen as that of us which still exists after death. There are a few bible passages that describe this condition and things like vision, perception, and memory are described. The Greeks used pneuma to describe the vital "breath" (warmed exhaled air) that indicated life and vitalizing energy.

God told Adam and Eve that the day they ate of the tree they would surely die. However, they didn't physically die until much later. The phrase in Hebrew as I understand it is "Dying ye shall surely die". There was some aspect of life that ended for Adam and Eve. It may have been that spiritual connection with God.

In Hebrews we are told that it is difficult to divide soul from spirit. It may be that our being placed in Christ allows us by his spirit to be resurrected in spiritual bodies.

timf · Aug 2, 2025

All churches have problems because they are run by people. There are three main problem categories, doctrine, personalities, and structure. As a possible solution, you may want to find a small bible church. These are generally independent and are often similar to the Baptist model. They key thing to look for is where you can get instruction in Bible tools to help you learn on your own. This will let you sift through the tons of baloney people will throw at you.

The purpose of the church can be found in Ephesians;

Eph 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
Eph 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
Eph 4:15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
Eph 4:16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.

Using this metric, it is difficult to see any church that is not a failure because none of us has made much progress in Christ-likeness. If your church is not helping you become more like Christ, you need to find one that will or learn to use bible tools that will help you learn more on your own.

There are a lot of web sites that are not very helpful, but one I found that has an extensive blog archive, and free videos, and books that might help;

Christian Pioneer

Christian Pioneer - Answers to questions about Christianity

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Strong in Him · Aug 2, 2025

Apple Sky said:
@Phil G @David Lamb @Strong in Him & @prodromos

I give up with you guys, your all adamant the earth is a spinning ball orbiting the sun,

That's because it is.

Apple Sky said:
so be it, nothing that I say or show will make you believe otherwise,

How can it?

i) I've already said that you lost all credibility when you went back on your vow to God. You replied, "am I bothered?" So you don't care that you have no credibility. If we can't trust you, how are we to trust what you say?
ii) It has been demonstrated to you that you contradict yourself. The most recent example was where you insisted that they had to ask Dean Odle to go on the Final Experiment so they could be seen to be fair. Then a few posts later, you said "I doubt they even asked him." You believe the earth to be flat, yet it is a circle with a depth of at least 40,000 feet. You insist it can't move, yet you acknowledge earthquakes.
iii) It has been demonstrated to you that you are sometimes wrong - not only in your beliefs, lack of scientific understanding and unwillingness to find out, but in very basic things. Like stating that NASA funded the Final Experiment, when it was an American Pastor who funded it. You said the moon landings were faked using CGI when they didn't have it in 1969.
iv) You have posted clips from YouTube, some of which have not showed what you claimed they showed, and have had to say, "my mistake" or "ooops, wrong video."
v) You insist on a literal translation of the KJV when it suits you but at other times, ignore it. I notice that you have not responded to my questions about taking certain verses literally. Of course not - saying "those are not literally true" would undermine your previous statements about Scripture.
vi) You often say, "explain please"; someone does and you, who have no scientific knowledge (by your own admission) contradict the explanation. You cannot explain the basic problems that arise with your flat earth model. You might sometimes find a YouTube clip which explains it for you, but you don't understand what they are saying, so don't even know whether it is accurate.
vii) in your own words, you are addicted to conspiracy theories, have no scientific knowledge yet contradict those who do and take certain passages of the Bible literally.

So how can you expect that we will even listen to, never mind be convinced by, anything that you have to say?
It would be like if I tried to convince people to live in Spain despite never having been to Spain.

Apple Sky said:
I hope the truth will come out one day.

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For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad. Luke 8:17

You will realise the truth about the globe earth one day, yes.
But as it has nothing to do with salvation or the way we live our Christian lives, it will make no difference.

But you will also be faced with the fact that you have called other Christians liars and implied, or stated that we/they don't believe Genesis. THAT is far more serious - for you.

stevevw · Aug 2, 2025

timewerx said:
Why would God hand it as punishment to Eve after she sinned if the hierarchy is already in effect before she sinned?

It does not make any sense.

I don't know but Paul definitely refers back to both reasons. That Adam was created first and that Eve first sinned and Adam did not. So we can't just say it was because of the fall. There is something inherent in the creation order that is reflected in nature of things as well.

mwallie · Aug 2, 2025

Maria Billingsley said:
You are skipping " in His will".
Be blessed.

Scripture tells us what his will is. Also, "And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive." Similarly, Mark 11:24 says, "Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours." There are more.

We explain them away though due to life experiences, but these verses couldn't be any clearer.

Christsfreeservant · Aug 2, 2025

“But prove yourselves doers of the word, and not merely hearers who delude themselves. For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man who looks at his natural face in a mirror; for once he has looked at himself and gone away, he has immediately forgotten what kind of person he was. But one who looks intently at the perfect law, the law of liberty, and abides by it, not having become a forgetful hearer but an effectual doer, this man will be blessed in what he does.” (James 1:22-25 NASB1995)

If we read the Scriptures in their correct biblical context, we cannot miss the fact that what they teach as the life of a follower of Christ is someone who not only is a hearer of the Word, but is one who obeys the Word of God, in practice. The Scriptures do not teach what so many people are teaching as the gospel today, in that they do not teach that we can just give lip service to God and that nothing is required of us by God in the way of us dying to sin and walking in obedience to our Lord and to his commands.

What the Scriptures do teach regarding salvation from sin and eternal life with God is that, by faith in Jesus Christ, if it is biblical faith, we die with Christ to sin, we are reborn of the Spirit of God, and we now walk, in conduct, in obedience to our Lord and to his commandments, by the grace of God, in the power of God. Sin is no longer what we practice, but obedience to our Lord is what we do by habit. We are not just hearers of the word, but we are those who are putting the word into daily exercise.

Yet, there are many people today who are teaching a gospel message absent of all obedience to our Lord and to his commandments, and absent of all death to sin, for they are teaching a “feel good” message which convinces the sinner if they just “pray the prayer to receive Christ” that now all their sins are forgiven (past, present, future), and heaven is secured for them when they die, but regardless of how they live. And although they know the evil they are committing is wrong, they walk away and just forget about it.

Some of them just do the “claim who you are in Christ” thing in order to alleviate any guilty conscience, but they are not really “in Christ” until they have died with Christ to sin and they are now walking in obedience to our Lord’s commands as a matter of life custom, although not necessarily in absolute perfection. For if their faith does not change how they live for the good and for the glory of God, in obedience to his commands, then it is not biblical faith which saves from sin and which promises eternal life with God.

So, we are to be those who look intently into the Scriptures and into what they teach, in truth, if taught in their correct biblical context. We are not to believe whatever someone else tells us is the truth, but we are to be seekers of truth who search the Scriptures ourselves for truth by reading them in their right context. And there we will learn that faith which saves results in us dying to sin and living to God in walks of obedience to our Lord’s commands or it is not genuine faith that results in eternal life with God.

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:3-6; 1 John 3:4-10; Revelation 2:1-29; Revelation 3:1-22]

My Sheep

Based off John 10:1-30 NIV
An Original Work / June 24, 2012
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

My sheep hear me. They know me.
They listen to my voice and obey.
I call them and lead them.
They know my voice, so they follow me.
They will never follow strangers.
They will run away from them.
The voice of a stranger they know not;
They do not follow him.

So, I tell you the truth that
I am the gate, so you enter in.
Whoever does enter
Will find forgiveness and will be saved.
Nonetheless whoever enters
Not by the gate; other way,
He is the thief and a robber.
Listen not, the sheep to him.

Oh, I am the Good Shepherd,
Who laid his own life down for the sheep.
I know them. They know me.
They will live with me eternally.
The thief only comes to steal and
Kill and to destroy the church.
I have come to give you life that
You may have it to the full…

They know my voice, so they follow me.

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Apple Sky · Aug 2, 2025

@Phil G @David Lamb @Strong in Him & @prodromos

I give up with you guys, your all adamant the earth is a spinning ball orbiting the sun, so be it, nothing that I say or show will make you believe otherwise, so stick to your indoctrinated world & I hope the truth will come out one day.

King James Bible
For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad. Luke 8:17

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