Illegal Immigration
- By Aaron112
- American Politics
- 244 Replies
Does Romans 13 apply to President Biden and his administration?
No.Did any president obey God and His Commandments or His Instructions or His Word ?
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Does Romans 13 apply to President Biden and his administration?
No.Did any president obey God and His Commandments or His Instructions or His Word ?
Do you think that they broke the law if a visa was required?What, you think they got a visa?
If you can point out where in scripture Yahshua teaches us that lawlessness is an act of love; then I'll reverse courseIf you can point out where in scripture Jesus Christ of Nazareth teaches us not to love the stranger then I'll reverse course
If you can point out where in scripture Jesus Christ of Nazareth teaches us not to love the stranger then I'll reverse course.
Or not......That doesn't mean immigrants aren't welcomed here. of course all of them are,
The point of the post was to contradict your continued assertion that the earth doesn't move. Those scriptures shows that to be false. Based on your hyper-literalism way of interpreting scripture, you have a contradiction in your belief. So how do you resolve it? Or do you just ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist so you can hang on to your belief?And not one mention of it turning or rotating around the sun, that's because it doesn't.
Joshua 10:13
And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.
Quoting scripture to justify government policy presents several challenges. For example, if I initiate a discussion suggesting that same-sex marriage should be banned because the Bible describes homosexuality as an abomination, many Christians who identify as Democrats or liberals may raise concerns about the separation of church and state. Similarly, if I propose implementing school prayer, numerous Christians on the political left might argue that America is a secular society and that imposing Christian prayer on non-Christians is inappropriate.Happy to point out that Jesus Christ of Nazareth confirmed this in the new testament. Im affraid you're just not going to be able to get around it, " Love".
Matthew 25:35, 40:
"For I was a stranger and you welcomed me...Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me."
Interesting!One such food is Kamut flour, a variety of ancient wheat. Possibly used by ancient Egyptians, the grain was "rediscovered" and brought to America in the 20th century.
I’m very interested in trying the Kamut flour.
Twist scripture by loving the stranger? Im affraid this is out of my sphere of understanding.It's not hard at all.
The type of love matters and twisting scripture to fit a narrative isn't what God wants people to do.
What I 'get', is your agenda of having Jewish Israel on earth going thru tribulation, while you are raptured to heaven.Wow, he just doesn't get it.
Even predicting larger effects in aggregate has left some economic experts stumped in trying to predict trends and impacts.
All of the big names have had their various "hits" and "misses"
Economist Notable Incorrect Predictions Notable Accurate Predictions Thomas Sowell • Claimed raising minimum wage would always cause large-scale unemployment → multiple hikes (1990s, 2010s, recent state increases) showed smaller or negligible effects.• Predicted affirmative action would universally reduce minority graduation rates → evidence shows some mixed outcomes, but mostly positive. • Longstanding critique that rent control leads to housing shortages → widely validated by economic research and real-world cases (NYC, SF, Sweden).• Correctly emphasized trade-offs in welfare programs, predicting dependency traps in poorly designed systems. Milton Friedman • Said floating exchange rates would naturally stabilize → in reality, they often swung wildly (1970s–80s volatility, emerging market crises).• Forecast that post-2008 QE would spark high inflation → inflation stayed historically low until the 2020s.• Predicted the Euro “would not survive” → it endured despite severe strains. • Warned in the 1960s–70s that ignoring inflation expectations would cause stagflation → validated by the 1970s crisis.• Advocated ending military conscription, predicting an all-volunteer force could work → U.S. abolished the draft in 1973, largely successful.• Accurately foresaw that steady inflation erodes savings and distorts investment decisions. Paul Krugman • 1998: Predicted the internet’s economic impact would be minor, “like the fax machine” → spectacularly wrong.• 2016: Predicted Trump’s election would cause global markets to “never recover” → markets rallied strongly (until COVID).• Early 2010s: Said Eurozone was likely doomed → it survived. • Correctly predicted that Bush tax cuts + Iraq war spending would produce big deficits (early 2000s).• Warned in 2002–2006 of a U.S. housing bubble → vindicated by 2007–2008 crash.• In 2008, argued strongly for a large fiscal stimulus, predicting weak recovery if it was too small → U.S. stimulus was modest, and recovery was sluggish, fitting his forecast.
You're making my point. Economists aren't interested in individuals.Those aren't the kinds of anomalies and factors that economists are trying to nail down.
That's why applying the overly simplistic "widget factory" examples from econ classes never seems to be an accurate predictor in the real world.
Highlighted famously by Mr. Dangerfield's character in the movie "Back to School"
Actually, there is not space enough here (it would fill dozens of books, eh? ) and probably against the rules to be more specific..... not that the rules are binding, no, but problematic and not worth getting into now that it has passed.What is sooo wrong specifically?
If you can point out where in scripture Jesus Christ of Nazareth teaches us not to love the stranger then I'll reverse course. Because honestly, if you are folding this into Torah obedience you are missing a very important lesson here.That doesn't answer my questions.
Your conflation of words does not constitute a confirmation.
Let's look at verse of your premise (specifically the word גר) in the Greek LXX:
Strong's Greek: 4339 προσήλυτος (proselutos) - proselyte
Strong's Definitions pros-ay'-loo-tos; from the alternate of (4334) (προσέρχομαι); an arriver from a foreign region, i.e. (special) an acceder (convert) to Judaism ("proselyte"): — proselyte.
Now let's look at the word in the verse that is being conflated with your premise.
ξενος G3581
So I ask again; do you understand what a גר is?
I ask again does Yah call us to follow the law?
(CLV) Hb 1:9
Thou lovest righteousness (kept THE LAW) and hatest injustice (disregard for THE LAW) ; Therefore Thou art anointed by The God, (tou theou) (YHWH), Thy God, with the oil of exultation beyond Thy partners."
Is this a general principle: that God can meet everyone's needs, and so there's no need for people to step in to meet them?....And isn't God able to take care of the millions who came in illegally, presuming they are in real need, though some are criminals coming it, but isn't God able to meet their needs if they are legit right where they are or even in another country with less strict immigration laws?
Yes, yes He is. The US isn't the savior, only Jesus Christ is!
Well, I would say that part is praise
If they were, then the Psalms would also encourage us to pray to the sun, moon and stars:
A major challenge with evangelism today is that most people have already heard the message "Jesus loves you" many times. After hearing this, they then think to themselves that if He loves me, then I must be a good person, and so therefore I will make it to heaven. To them, the Gospel seems unnecessary or even foolish because they have been told only part of the message.I agree. It can take time. I've not been involved in urban mission, as I've lived in fairly small towns for 30+ years, although I have talked to and prayed with homeless people. Where I live my immediate community consists mainly of people whose lives are reasonably okay, but they have little interest in God. I pray and invite them to church, social evenings, etc. but there's little response.Sometimes it takes time.
Do you think that verse applies to Trump?matthew 5:9 “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God”
I know you are not to take any verse alone, but how exactly should we take such a verse?
The Christianity that doesnt require anything of you is much more appealing to people.If the reasoning is that God can care for immigrants in their home countries and therefore we should refrain from providing assistance, this logic could similarly be applied to other situations.
“feed the hungry, give water to thirsty, give shelter to stranger, clothed the naked, look after the sick, visit those who are in prison. (Matt 25) , take care the widow ( Acts 6), give justice to the weak and fatherless ( Psalm 82) take care immigrants ( Deut 10:19 / Psalm 146).
So we can keep all our wealth to ourselves and those who are poor, sick , needy, just tell them if there needs are legit , God will take care of them.