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fhansen · 2025-10-29T08:14:33-0500

BibleBeliever1611 said:
This is a question that needs to be asked. You trust that you're saved from hell and will go to heaven when you die. But why? For what reason? What are we standing on?

Many people would say that if you have a good lifestyle, that really proves that you got saved. That proves that you are "really" saved, as they would say. But is your lifestyle something that you should be standing on? Absolutely not. We should be standing on the promises of God alone. Why because God is the boss and you better stand on what he says.

"In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;" - Titus 1:2

Man's wisdom says that you cannot go to heaven if your works don't add up, if you're not holy enough, if you live like the world, etc. God's wisdom says otherwise. We go with what God says in the Bible, not what man's wisdom says.

So what exactly are we standing on in regards to salvation from hell? The promises of God. God which cannot lie promised eternal life, that's it and it's case closed.

Things that we are NOT standing on:

Lifestyle

Not being a drunkard

Not committing fornication

Not being a murderer

Thoughts

Feelings

Emotions

Not falling into sin

"At least I have not committed that sin"

"At least I'm not living in regular sin"

You get the point. Jesus is the rock on which we stand. Stand on promises of God, don't stand on shifting sands. This is what people need to understand. I like how that one hymn goes, "Jesus is a rock in a weary land, a shelter in a time of storm."

Here is a hymn called "Standing on the promises of God"
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And yet the Bible teaches that no murderers, liars, fornicators, etc will enter heaven…

JimR-OCDS · 2025-10-29T08:14:30-0500

Learning always said:
I hope so. I do hope so very much.
You are not bending and twisting reasoning to explain his words, are you?
But he sounds like he is emphasizing nobody has the full revealed truth more than the Church has the full Truth.

The Church only has the fullness of revealed truth. There is much more to be learn as God see fit to reveal to us.

GoldenBoy89 · 2025-10-29T08:13:13-0500

Hans Blaster said:
Unless something happens, Trump will be President for *all* of 2028.

Right and I’ll still be worried

MarkRohfrietsch · 2025-10-29T08:07:08-0500

hopeforhappiness said:
The denomination I am attending is Wesleyan Methodist. Atonement is part of the official catechism. I am asking my question on this forum as I know that I will get a thought-through reply. But I have been thinking that the Cross is not glorious material for preaching even in most of the evangelical churches that I have attended. It is in the hymns, certainly, but the preaching is only about "growing in Christ".
I have asked for a conversation with a retired evangelical Methodist minister to discuss this.
I have made a preacher on the rota very angry when I pointed out that I hadn't ever heard the gospel in this particular building. He came back with a very angry controlling message the next time. Blessings and curses for our choices but no Christ as solution. Legalism. No salvation. No wonder. No glory. No joy.

In confessional Lutheran Churches, we follow St. Paul and preach "Christ Crucified"; legalistic theology and the Church's remedy of people cooperating in their salvation through the purchase of indulgences is what triggered Luther's reformation. The theology of glory that many of the so-called "evangelical" churches promote make salvation about what the individual must do, and down-plays or negates the true Gospel which makes it all about Jesus Christ. The Theology of the Cross is foundation of the Confessional Lutheran Synods; hence the name here at CF: Theologia Crucis. J. S. Bach, likely the most well known Lutheran composer, did not sign his religious compositions with his name, rather, they were signed "Sola Deo Gloria"; to God alone be the glory.

The three ecumenical creeds are only part of our confessional documents.

First and foremost, it is the Bible (Sola Scriptura)

Besides the Bible, we have the unaltered Book of Concord, 1580 edition, which contains in addition to the Three ecumenical Creeds, all of which we consider an exposition of theology and it's application, which is contained in the Bible. BookOfConcord.org

A2SG · 2025-10-29T08:02:49-0500

rjs330 said:
Its gone up, every year. Nothing new here. Ever since the promises of Obama care its continued to climb. Still going up.

Oh right, now I remember! Before the ACA, health insurance prices NEVER went up, they stayed exactly the same for years!

How quickly we forget.

RDKirk said:
What is the better Republican plan?

Let's not mention at the moment that Obamacare was a Republican plan.

They have concepts of a plan that I'm sure will be revealed any day now

-- A2SG, hold your breath, it might help....

Hentenza · 2025-10-29T07:54:26-0500

Apple Sky said:
1 John 4:5-6
They are of the world. That is why they speak from the world’s perspective, and the world listens to them. / We are from God. Whoever knows God listens to us; whoever is not from God does not listen to us. That is how we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of deception.

The problem with this approach is that now you have made yourself the judge of the
Christian heart. This is not biblically sound.

You know, maybe it is you who speak from the world perspective by accepting the lies of conspiracy theorists and misusing scripture to reduce God’s creation.

FAITH-IN-HIM · 2025-10-29T07:49:37-0500

The issue is not just abortion, but a general lack of understanding of Christ’s compassion, grace, forgiveness, and mercy towards sinners. Many Christians often withhold these virtues from those who sin, especially if they hold different political views.

DaisyDay · 2025-10-29T07:47:57-0500

Desk trauma said:
LEXINGTON MAN STILL IN JAIL WITH $2M BOND AFTER POSTING A TRUMP MEME ON FACEBOOK

I see a big lawsuit in the making here. I would say this is nutzo but it seems to be a deliberate strategy towards um, governmental overreach.

Apple Sky · 2025-10-29T07:45:04-0500

Strong in Him said:
The only way that you can say that it is, is to call everyone else a liar and claim the evidence is all fake.
That means nothing, except that you don't understand, and refuse to believe the evidence, and that you think everyone else is a liar. Including the born again Christian astronaut who you once believed.

1 John 4:5-6
They are of the world. That is why they speak from the world’s perspective, and the world listens to them. / We are from God. Whoever knows God listens to us; whoever is not from God does not listen to us. That is how we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of deception.

Apple Sky · 2025-10-29T07:38:08-0500

Strong in Him said:
That's as maybe - the flights still exist.

Not flying all the way over Antarctica they don't.

Always in His Presence · 2025-10-29T07:36:28-0500

2.7M views · 37K reactions | Not even hiding it anymore... | TheBlaze

Not even hiding it anymore...

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Straight from Democrat leadership. They are using the shutdown for leverage.

fhansen · 2025-10-29T07:31:17-0500

Dan1988 said:
I appreciate your sincerity, but the idea that man can chose to believe the gospel without God first quickening him to life, is not supported by the Bible.

But that’s not what’s being said. The church has always taught (and laid these teachings down officially some 15 centuries ago), that man cannot move or raise himself, that grace is absolutely essential. The issue is in whether or not man can resist being drawn, or turn back way later after having tasted of the heavenly gift, failing to persevere.

It’s a matter of what we do with the gift(s) given, with more demanded of those given more (Luke 12:48). The Parable of the Talents in Matt 25 sheds much light on how this works.

Hazelelponi · 2025-10-29T07:31:01-0500

Bradskii said:
I'm sure we could find some pros and cons as regards the fine details of international law to bat back and forth. But I'm no legal eagle. Do I'm interested in your personal, moral opinion on extra judicial killings.

I don't consider it extrajudicially in the first place. It's not. Its a state of war (not using this as a legal term) intentionally and with cause. .

I don't reject these actions. There's nothing to reject. They are lawful acts by a government entity against people who are killing ours.

I believe government has the actual responsibility to protect this nation and it's people. It's why we have a government and why governments are necessary.

This is the charge God gave to governments and it's necessary for the protection of the citizens.

Asking nice didn't work. Being kind doesn't work. Playing the victim doesn't help anyone. This is what we have a government for.

Bob Crowley · 2025-10-29T07:26:08-0500

You've done very well to get your weight down by 36lbs. I'm diabetic myself although mostly under control. Weight is not an issue, but I need to restart a bit more physical exercise.

Hopefully your job situation might change and you won't have to spend so many hours on the road.

Always in His Presence · 2025-10-29T07:24:22-0500

Hans Blaster said:
They aren't cracks.

Mr. Bill was an animated clay character in late 70s shorts on SNL. He always was exclaiming "Oh No!" before he got smashed. I was indicating that I am utterly unconcerned about the rich worried they are about to get "crushed".

Bodegas are small NYC shops selling groceries and odds and ends. Many have resident cats.

Bodega Cats (@bodegacats.bsky.social)

https://www.bodegacats.nyc

bsky.app

And what connect does either crack have to do with the subject of the thread.

You obviously care enough to post.

BNR32FAN · 2025-10-29T07:23:28-0500

Dan1988 said:
St Iranaeus' writings are his own opinion, he was not an Apostle, or a Prophet of God, so with all due respect, I don't follow after men, as you obviously do. I follow the Lord Jesus, thank you very much.

Oh but you follow after 16th century theologians to interpret scripture but not 2nd century theologians. Which one do you think had a better idea of what the early church taught?

Strong in Him · 2025-10-29T07:21:03-0500

Apple Sky said:
And there are, but I wouldn't expect anyone to understand this, they can barley get their head around the fact that the earth is flat,

But it isn't. I would guess that 98%+ of the world know that it isn't.

The only way that you can say that it is, is to call everyone else a liar and claim the evidence is all fake.
That means nothing, except that you don't understand, and refuse to believe the evidence, and that you think everyone else is a liar. Including the born again Christian astronaut who you once believed.

Your complete refusal to accept the facts does not change the facts.

johnnypapa · 2025-10-29T07:20:51-0500

What’s in a name?” asks Shakespeare’s Juliet. From a biblical standpoint, the answer is: quite a lot. Time and again the Scriptures underscore the saving power of the divine name as well as God’s intense interest in human names.

Biblical Baby Names for Boys and Girls

In a world where Muhammad is now the most popular baby boy’s name in the United Kingdom, it’s more crucial than ever that Christian parents take seriously their God-given responsibility of naming their child.

crisismagazine.com

RDKirk · 2025-10-29T07:20:37-0500

rjs330 said:
Its gone up, every year. Nothing new here. Ever since the promises of Obama care its continued to climb. Still going up.

What is the better Republican plan?

Let's not mention at the moment that Obamacare was a Republican plan.

RDKirk · 2025-10-29T07:19:35-0500

Larniavc said:
So even paying out each year you still have to pay per medical intervention?

"Oh, wait. You're already paying when you don't need it, and you have to pay even more when you need it?"

rjs330 · 2025-10-29T07:19:27-0500

FreeinChrist said:
It is Open Enrollment time so people are seeing what their premiums will be. My Medicare Advantage plan premium has significantly increased, but since I get what Arizona elected officials/ former elected officials on Medicare get, it is not bad.

But wow, for those who are not on Medicare, and have a family of three or more, the monthly cost is $1,848.00 per month! This is the amount for those in the Arizona schools systems, universities and colleges, work in the state prisons, and elected officials and I think the Department of Public Safety officers (like state police) will have to pay for medical insurance.

A single teacher, who may only make $50,000 a year, will have to pay at least $660/month for the 'economy' plan.

But hey, Trump is building a ballroom! It is his number one priority per Karoline Leavitt.

I haven't seen the Obamacare premiums yet which some family members will be using.

What is happening with your medical insurance?

Its gone up, every year. Nothing new here. Ever since the promises of Obama care its continued to climb. Still going up.

Apple Sky · 2025-10-29T07:19:08-0500

Twin Towers

johnnypapa · 2025-10-29T07:17:36-0500

A trifecta of special days takes place at the end of every October. And Catholic parents trying to raise their children counter-culturally would do well to instruct and involve their family in all three of these days!

Three Straight Days Worthy of Commemoration – Catholic Stand

catholicstand.com

Dan1988 · 2025-10-29T07:17:00-0500

BNR32FAN said:
He’s quoting from psalms which are not always intended to be taken literally, they’re often proverbial sayings and proverbial saying are often exaggerated like as if I were to say nobody writes letters anymore. There’s an element of truth to that statement but it’s not intended to be taken literally. There’s purpose of the statement is to indicate that very few people write letters nowadays, not that nobody actually writes letters. None are righteous, not one? The Bible specifically states that several people were righteous. I’ve already told you this and as usual you just ignore it. When you have several passages making direct statements and you have a psalm that is making an opposing statement I would go with the several direct statements because the psalms are often composed of proverbial saying that are not intended to be taken literally.

I'm sorry to correct you again, but I have to because your opinion that some scriptures are exaggerated, is highly offensive to me and all those who believe that all Scripture is >>>>

2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness".

Unlike yourself, I don't believe that God exaggerates or plays word games. Every Word of God is precious and authoritative and is never disposable.

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