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Pregnant women taking Tylenol to spite Trump

Do they test any medications on pregnant women? Historically, the FDA hasn’t even required drug trials to include women, which are often excluded because their hormone cycle doesn’t provide clean results. We have to rely on independent studies and reports accumulating data to determine safety. I’m not surprised Tylenol official statements say otherwise for legal reasons.
I just thought it was interesting how Trump basically makes the same recommendation made by the manufacturer and the left goes nuts.
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BUSTED - 12 False theories refuted:

Bible Prophecy will come to pass. Some has already, but most remains to be fulfilled.
Just because I and others have thought the end times events would commence at a certain time and that time passed; people cannot become complacent and think it won't eventually happen.

Daniel 12:10....only the [few] wise leaders will understand. [the Prophetic Word]
Is God going to laugh at mankind if no one is able to comprehend the huge amount of information He has given us about His plans for our future.?

I am not 'blowing my own trumpet', but the fact is the Lord did give me a vison when I was in the Holy Land. Of how that Land will be after His Day of fiery wrath. He inspired me to write out the Prophesies and allowed me to see the amazing sequence of events, leading up to the Eternal state, after the 7000 years decreed for mortal mankind is over.
If you have the moral fortitude, look at my www.logostelos.info website. There are over 800 articles there, mostly on the Prophetic Word.

The critically important factor in understanding Gods Plans, is to have an open mind.
Preconceived theories and doctrines, can usually be made to fit scripture, but they are rabbit trails and lead nowhere.

Jesus did not need to explain everything about the end times. He did a good precis' in Revelation and in Rev 13:6, He does say the 'beast will blaspheme Gods Tabernacle. Paralleled in Daniel 9:27 & 11:31 that both say the sacrifices will be stopped. When the Anti-Christ sits in the Temple; 2 Thess 2:4 proves it. That the sacrifices and offerings must have started before then,, is a given.

I won't, so you don't.

The Christian peoples are the true Israel and the Jews are toast.
OK. with me and only you. believe what your PROPHETIC theching. is perfect and your verses seems vague. !!

And I have already explained Gal 6:15-17 and you did not reply ??

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Pregnant women taking Tylenol to spite Trump

Do they test any medications on pregnant women? Historically, the FDA hasn’t even required drug trials to include women, which are often excluded because their hormone cycle doesn’t provide clean results. We have to rely on independent studies and reports accumulating data to determine safety. I’m not surprised Tylenol official statements say otherwise for legal reasons.
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Trump Calls For Ilhan Omar’s Removal From Congress

Your video didn’t make your point.
All I saw were some politicians bemoaning the fact that ICE agents were “disappearing“ people off the streets, while hiding their own (the ICE agent’s) indentities.
You didnt hear the gestapo references? You didnt hear the last guy attacking them say we need to stop them by any means necessary? Thats the rhetoric dude. More references to Nazis.

If you cant see tgat then I give up.
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Not my circus. Not my clown.

Perplexity? Please no!
First - it was in your account - so I could not access it.

Second - what data set was it trained on? All that propaganda from the Fox loudhailer of Trump's every brain blurt?

Third - from my vantage as an Australian under the Westminster Parliamentary system - Americans care way too much about who their President is - and not enough about what their policies are. So Biden getting crazy old on his last watch was triggering because:-
  • it seems the American population do not care about policies enough,
  • those that do care about policies seem to have been deceived by the Trump narrative that immigration is a threat to America - where the statistics show them to be more law abiding and contribute more to the economy than they take,
  • AND Kamala's actions SOUTH of the border were preventing the push factors that sent people from Central and South American countries, as immigration stats started to slow,
  • As an Aussie raised under Westminster I just got cranky at your whole system. How dare the Democrats let it get that bad! Why was he the candidate they sent to represent them in the first place? Personality politics is bad enough in our system - but in your system where you try to let 'the people' (or is that big corporate donors?) elect an individual president - the personality politics seems to drown out policies a lot of the time.
  • In Australia the party selects the leader - so we save a stack of money by avoiding basically having a second election. And if the leader says or does something truly stupid - the party will take stock of the polls and hold a leadership spill - and offer someone else as leader. The party polling systems somewhat reflect the popularity of various leaders - rather than the toxic personality politics of a public election system.
So when I see the statistics below (from Reuters) - I have a bunch of caveats and concerns around why Biden was left to let the Democrats ratings drag like that through 2022 and 23. But when you compare it to Trump - "Lions and Tigers and Bears - Oh my!" Why isn't Trump still up in the 50's or high 40's like Biden was during the honeymoon year?

Because he's Trump - that's why! Look at the first term!


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So I take it you dont want evidence or sources. Just excuses to argue. Got it. Lesson learned.
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Not my circus. Not my clown.

What do they have to do with my statement about Trump unifying people?
You've got to be kidding!
He's the most divisive president America's ever had!

He intentionally splits the population by 'othering' illegal immigrants.
He intentionally splits the population every time he utters his outrageous claims about the 'radical left'.
He intentionally splits the population every time there is a disaster or shooting - claiming it was the 'radical left' before they've even caught the guy!

Other presidents and political figures try to calm things down after tragedies like this. Bernie Sanders recently ran through a list of all the main political assassinations and violence in recent years on both sides - and called the perpetrators cowards not confident enough that their arguments would win the day.

Trump? He only remembers incidents on the right, does not deign to dignify the assassination of democrats this year by even mentioning them, and just chants endless claims about "They" - "Them" - "the radical left" etc.

It's appalling.

Unify? Honestly mate - in what world?
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Has Kirk's Death Prompted You?

Ah so that's how you answered.

You misunderstand. The watering down results from a lack of harmony with the Holy Spirit and the teachings of Scripture.

Since the aspect of the Holy Spirit cannot be proven except through fruit, what is one to say?

If you are satisfied by the fruit of your ministry, and myself likewise, then would it not result in two Proverbs 26:16 figures debating one another? Such a humorous display would edify no one.

Thanks for the discussion.
I just saw this by chance, and it is really appropriate. You should find the first 3 and a half minutes really good. It makes total sense. Then, if you like it, watch the rest. But anyway, watch the first 3.5 minutes. Blessings
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Left-Wing Terrorism Is on the Rise

But because they are decentralized and are organization adverse on purpose their violence doesn't get counted. As we have seen a lot or left wing violence isnt an organized violence. Its easy when white supremacists get going because they typically have clubs and organizations.
Left-wing violence gets counted using the same criteria that right-wing whether it's by an individual acting on their own, or they are part of a group.
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Not my circus. Not my clown.

Democrats could push harder for Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Obamacare, environmental programs, USAID, food stamps, progressive tax policies, unions, and other vital causes. All these are Democratic programs that are being challenged. Democrats could do more to resist the Trump administration. These are the criticisms I hear of Democrats. I rarely hear that they should lean more towards the Trump program.

You cannot equate the criticisms of Democrats for being too centrist with criticisms of the right for going too far toward Trump. Democratic voters often reject the party's move to the center. Republican voters often reject the party's shift to the extreme right. Both are pushing to the left.
In the words of Donald Trump to Zelenski, democrats do not have the cards.
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Trump replaces Biden’s portrait with a picture of auto-pen

Americans and much of the world is better off because of the 45th and 47th POTUS administrations of the USA. However, globalists refuse to believe that.
That is another statement that makes me glad I was not eating or drinking when reading it.

The reviews of the speech he gave at the UN by the people who were there were not good, to put it mildly.
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Jesus & Social Justice

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Sorry guy but being a "better option than a central american coutry" isn't not something to puff your chest about.
I have no clue what said here. Please clarify.
That's where you're wrong.
1) You said "your parents worked theri fingers to the bone to give my brother the best upbringing possible". Do you know how many children do NOT have that priviledge? There's plenty of American kids who don't have that...and it IS a priviledge.
How many? Tell me?
2) If your parents could work that hard, they also had their health. Lucky them! Do you know how many children are burdenned with parents who are physically, mentally or emotionally unwell? That takes a toll and children too and having healthy parents is another privledge.
If we sat together and talked about your upbringing I would guarantee that we could find other points of priviledge too.
How many? I guess being alive is also a privilege. Why is it that most everything is a privilege for the left? The kids these days s are growing without coping skills because of the ideas from the left. People need to be taught responsibility and hard work instead of “everyone gets a trophy”.
3) Migrant parents, IMHO will ALWAYS Be hard workers (mine were as well). It's also a priviledge to have parents who instill values like that. Many don't have that either.
Not a privilege. Get off the privilege left fallacy.
I'm not saying these things to make you feel bad or that you don't deserve it; that's irrelevant. I'm saying it so you can appreciate that even in your situation, there are plenty of people who are FAAAAAR behind you guys.

Never said otherwise but your ideas are the typical left everyone is a victim ideology. If the government pays able people to stay home then all they are doing is keeping them in poverty.


Hold on. Are you suggesting (I'm not American so I'm asking for clarity)....the Pell grant can get you post secondary schooling COMPLETELY FOR FREE...and you are saying ANYONE can access that? because I didn't know that to be true. And if you don't qualify for those grants to those in extreme poverty and you have to get a student loan, that is a handicap....
Yes for a 2 year college. Everyone is eligible and it is a grant not a loan.
There are cuts here.
Cuts cuts cuts.
What are cuts?
Not free. Who pays? Plenty of stories of kids who can't get cause they can't afford it....
and when someone tries to help?
Lunch lady fired for giving student free meal refuses offer to be rehired
And thoughts on Trump cutting these budgets?
“The National School Lunch Program (NSLP) is a federally assisted meal program operating in public and nonprofit private schools and residential child care institutions. It provides nutritionally balanced, low-cost or free lunches to children each school day. The program was established under the National School Lunch Act, signed by President Harry Truman in 1946.”



Neurodivergence is a thing and some people struggle mightily with getting AND THEN ALSO KEEPING a job.
Cuts here.
Again, what are cuts? In the US we have almost full employment. People are getting and retaining jobs so you are off base here.
People abuse every program. That doesn't make the program bad; it means you need more punishment. Keeping in mind the amount of abuse that was happenning at the corporate level. IT DWARVES what poor people are "taking" from you.
There it goes the next move from the left playbook. Corporations are just evil. lol

People abuse the programs because the programs don’t have sufficient checks and balances.
Go fight the GOOD battle. Punch UP...not down.


Well, those programs are designed to be given to those who really need it. But either way, we seem to always seen a lot of side comments like this when these types of incidents are very rare. And yet the companies and third party groups who work with these entitlement programs will commit fraud in the millions and get just a "finger wag".
Some of the companies and some of the people commit fraud. The people that deserve the help should not include able bodied people that are perfectly capable of working or those that trade their benefits for cash or drugs.
I don't know Via that great but I don't think he identifies as "far left".
Who is he?
Either way, most of the programs you are using as examples of ways that the US helps the poor are LEFT IDEAS that LEFT leaning government support and properly fund and that this and other subsequent Republican governments will continues to chip away at so that their billionaire buddies can pay less taxes. So, if you say you like those programs (since you cite them as you do in this thread), I would guess that you want them properly funded right?
I understand your confusion since you are not from the US. Some of these programs have been around for decades (including the free lunch program which has been around since 1946). I don’t know if you can vote in the US but you have certainly drank the far left kool aid.
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