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What Going on with the Charlie Kirk Assassination Investigation?

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I am curious about what is going on with the Charlie Kirk assassination investigation. I have not heard any real concrete info about it in the last week. And the stuff I have heard looks very sketchy. The text messaging between Tyler Robinson and his roommate, weird to say the least. The judge going over the trail with him, very bizarre. Where the heck is the work of the FBI? I thought maybe the FBI was following some major lead and that is why it has been so quiet. But it is getting ridiculous the amount of time that has gone by and the investigation seems to be no further than what it was a few days after the tragic event.

Soooo, I felt it was time to do some digging myself and listen to what alternative views had to say. Was this a mistake or is there something going on here that some don't want the public to know about. I know I'm going to get dumped on for showing these two videos because of who the presenters are but hey, something stinks in Denmark and I want to know what it is. These people raise some very interesting points (which should have at least been squashed by the FBI if they weren't true but they haven't).



I enjoy hearing from all of you because you all have very good insight here.
 
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What's fascinating to me is that so many of these violent acts against republicans seem to kinda fade away. Like...details aren't important....or stories. I don't know. I mean Trump had an ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT against him. And the only time they bring that up now is to perpetuate a victimhood. They seem totally content with the story and all of it's very weird idiocyncracies.
 
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I am curious about what is going on with the Charlie Kirk assassination investigation. I have not heard any real concrete info about it in the last week. And the stuff I have heard looks very sketchy. The text messaging between Tyler Robinson and his roommate, weird to say the least. The judge going over the trail with him, very bizarre. Where the heck is the work of the FBI? I thought maybe the FBI was following some major lead and that is why it has been so quiet. But it is getting ridiculous the amount of time that has gone by and the investigation seems to be no further than what it was a few days after the tragic event.

Soooo, I felt it was time to do some digging myself and listen to what alternative views had to say. Was this a mistake or is there something going on here that some don't want the public to know about. I know I'm going to get dumped on for showing these two videos because of who the presenters are but hey, something stinks in Denmark and I want to know what it is. These people raise some very interesting points (which should have at least been squashed by the FBI if they weren't true but they haven't).

The suspect is in jail and charged with murder. I'm sure the local PD are investigating him and his motive because they will need a strong case at trial to demonstrate his guilt and to counter any defense arguments. There is no reason that information being found should be shared with us.
 
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The suspect is in jail and charged with murder. I'm sure the local PD are investigating him and his motive because they will need a strong case at trial to demonstrate his guilt and to counter any defense arguments. There is no reason that information being found should be shared with us.
I don't know, it sounds fishy to me. I mean look at the cause of death itself. Where is the doctor's report matching up with the scenario that it was rifle shot from the building top. If you look at the Redacted video, they show the moment of impact. It was very odd.

I don't know where I am going with this but I expected more information to be available that made better sense. I mean this sounds like the JFK assassination all over. Lee Harvey Oswald was, at first, the lone gunman but he is killed a few days later by Jack Ruby who ends up dying of cancer four years later. Mar 2025 comes around and supposedly all documents on the JFK assassination are revealed to the public. It was a little bit more involved than the lone gunman theory.

Are citizens just pawns in this governmental world that takes place behind the scenes? My main reason to have faith in God. It seems that everybody is lying about alot of stuff.
 
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I don't know, it sounds fishy to me. I mean look at the cause of death itself. Where is the doctor's report matching up with the scenario that it was rifle shot from the building top. If you look at the Redacted video, they show the moment of impact. It was very odd.

I don't know where I am going with this but I expected more information to be available that made better sense. I mean this sounds like the JFK assassination all over. Lee Harvey Oswald was, at first, the lone gunman but he is killed a few days later by Jack Ruby who ends up dying of cancer four years later. Mar 2025 comes around and supposedly all documents on the JFK assassination are revealed to the public. It was a little bit more involved than the lone gunman theory.

Are citizens just pawns in this governmental world that takes place behind the scenes? My main reason to have faith in God. It seems that everybody is lying about alot of stuff.
That information is out there, just not to the public yet. But you can be sure, if it exists it will be in the prosecuters hands right now qued up for the trial.

Not everything is a consperacy, and we are not going to know everything right away. It is better to wait and see what happens at the trial.

Humans do reconice padderns, but not all padderns are really there.
 
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I am curious about what is going on with the Charlie Kirk assassination investigation. I have not heard any real concrete info about it in the last week. And the stuff I have heard looks very sketchy. The text messaging between Tyler Robinson and his roommate, weird to say the least. The judge going over the trail with him, very bizarre. Where the heck is the work of the FBI? I thought maybe the FBI was following some major lead and that is why it has been so quiet. But it is getting ridiculous the amount of time that has gone by and the investigation seems to be no further than what it was a few days after the tragic event.

Soooo, I felt it was time to do some digging myself and listen to what alternative views had to say. Was this a mistake or is there something going on here that some don't want the public to know about. I know I'm going to get dumped on for showing these two videos because of who the presenters are but hey, something stinks in Denmark and I want to know what it is. These people raise some very interesting points (which should have at least been squashed by the FBI if they weren't true but they haven't).



I enjoy hearing from all of you because you all have very good insight here.
When the FBI is investigating, they are supposed to be quiet, but the current director won't keep his yap shut. The FBI didn't do squat to break the case - the guy's family persuaded him to turn himself in.
 
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When the FBI is investigating, they are supposed to be quiet, but the current director won't keep his yap shut. The FBI didn't do squat to break the case - the guy's family persuaded him to turn himself in.
The FBI found the majority of the evidence that will convict this scumbag of an assassin.
 
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I can't stop thinking about a post I saw on Reddit the day before. I wish I had taken a screenshot of the post. It said something to the effect of knowing CK was being 'taken out' the next day and that it was going to be big. Their profile was a trans individual that claimed to be 17. The post was shared the following day and they claimed they had nothing to do with it.....after hearing about the discord, I believe this individual may have been part of one of the groups discussing this. It's absolutely heartbreaking and I pray all individuals are brought to justice!
 
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When the FBI is investigating, they are supposed to be quiet, but the current director won't keep his yap shut. The FBI didn't do squat to break the case - the guy's family persuaded him to turn himself in.
The FBI would have found him anyway. He left enough evidence behind I could have found him
 
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I don't know, it sounds fishy to me. I mean look at the cause of death itself. Where is the doctor's report matching up with the scenario that it was rifle shot from the building top. If you look at the Redacted video, they show the moment of impact. It was very odd.
I haven't watched any videos or looked at any images, nor have I read any doctors' reports, nor have any interest in doing so. What I did hear, between the shooting and the announcement of the death was that the bullet struck his neck arteries and he bled so much he was probably dead within seconds. None of us are video analysts and this is exactly the kind of video that tempts people to "enhance" or modify unwisely or maliciously.
I don't know where I am going with this but I expected more information to be available that made better sense. I mean this sounds like the JFK assassination all over. Lee Harvey Oswald was, at first, the lone gunman but he is killed a few days later by Jack Ruby who ends up dying of cancer four years later. Mar 2025 comes around and supposedly all documents on the JFK assassination are revealed to the public. It was a little bit more involved than the lone gunman theory.
Oswald is *still* the lone gunman. Ruby was a distraught JFK fan with access to a gun in downtown Dallas when Oswald was being transferred.
Are citizens just pawns in this governmental world that takes place behind the scenes? My main reason to have faith in God. It seems that everybody is lying about alot of stuff.
Faith is useless.
 
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I haven't watched any videos or looked at any images, nor have I read any doctors' reports, nor have any interest in doing so. What I did hear, between the shooting and the announcement of the death was that the bullet struck his neck arteries and he bled so much he was probably dead within seconds. None of us are video analysts and this is exactly the kind of video that tempts people to "enhance" or modify unwisely or maliciously.

Oswald is *still* the lone gunman. Ruby was a distraught JFK fan with access to a gun in downtown Dallas when Oswald was being transferred.

Faith is useless.
I can't believe you are saying that, "Faith is useless". One of the videos shows a videoclip of the assassination at the moment the bullet supposedly hit him. Not exactly what you would expect the visual to be. It looks more like something exploded under his shirt. Do you remember when those cell phones and pagers were blowing up somewhere in the middle-east? It could have been something that detonated from his mike that was clipped o his shirt. But then again as you said, this could have been doctored up. It's bizarre though. And still, where are the autopsy reports?
 
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You have to be careful when getting information from Candace Owens...

It should be noted that both Turning Point (Charlie's Organization) and the DailyWire (Ben Shapiro's organization) -- both deeply conservative outfits -- both made the decision to part ways with her due to her tendency to (their words) "go a bit too far down rabbit holes" regarding conspiracy theories.


With regards to conspiracy theories about certain events...

They often capitalize on anomalies to say "see! something's weird here". The problem is, the events they focus on are, in and of themselves, anomalies.

The very concept of a high profile public speaker getting publicly assassinated is an outlier event. Which already makes it "weird". So anyone who's conspiracy-minded is going to overly-dissect every little thing that seems 'weird', when in reality, the whole situation is weird.
 

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I can't believe you are saying that, "Faith is useless". One of the videos shows a videoclip of the assassination at the moment the bullet supposedly hit him. Not exactly what you would expect the visual to be. It looks more like something exploded under his shirt. Do you remember when those cell phones and pagers were blowing up somewhere in the middle-east? It could have been something that detonated from his mike that was clipped o his shirt. But then again as you said, this could have been doctored up. It's bizarre though. And still, where are the autopsy reports?
None of which is based on faith. Hence the uselessness of faith to demonstrate things.
 
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You have to be careful when getting information from Candace Owens...

It should be noted that both Turning Point (Charlie's Organization) and the DailyWire (Ben Shapiro's organization) -- both deeply conservative outfits -- both made the decision to part ways with her due to her tendency to (their words) "go a bit too far down rabbit holes" regarding conspiracy theories.


With regards to conspiracy theories about certain events...

They often capitalize on anomalies to say "see! something's weird here". The problem is, the events they focus on are, in and of themselves, anomalies.

The very concept of a high profile public speaker getting publicly assassinated is an outlier event. Which already makes it "weird". So anyone who's conspiracy-minded is going to overly-dissect every little thing that seems 'weird', when in reality, the whole situation is weird.
Yes, I use to follow her alot but after she left the daily wire, I stopped due to the same reasons - very outrageous claims. However, that is why I threw in the Redacted video (and there are many other YouTubers who are questioning the whole assassination setup). After I read the text messages between Tyler Johnson and his roommate, things seemed very off. I'll give it a few more weeks and then I'll wave the white flag.
 
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The FBI would have found him anyway. He left enough evidence behind I could have found him
Lols, "would have", sure - but they didn't. Patel tweeted about it while they were investigating, including pointing fingers at the wrong "subject", twice. He's perhaps the most indiscreet FBI director they've ever had. He is terrible - but loyal to Donald
 
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I am curious about what is going on with the Charlie Kirk assassination investigation. I have not heard any real concrete info about it in the last week. And the stuff I have heard looks very sketchy. The text messaging between Tyler Robinson and his roommate, weird to say the least. The judge going over the trail with him, very bizarre. Where the heck is the work of the FBI? I thought maybe the FBI was following some major lead and that is why it has been so quiet. But it is getting ridiculous the amount of time that has gone by and the investigation seems to be no further than what it was a few days after the tragic event.

Soooo, I felt it was time to do some digging myself and listen to what alternative views had to say. Was this a mistake or is there something going on here that some don't want the public to know about. I know I'm going to get dumped on for showing these two videos because of who the presenters are but hey, something stinks in Denmark and I want to know what it is. These people raise some very interesting points (which should have at least been squashed by the FBI if they weren't true but they haven't).



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This is a pretty cut and dry case. The shooter described the whole thing in detail to his friend via text messages. A lot of evidence matches what he said. There's really nothing left to uncover or be discovered at this point.
 
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Lols, "would have", sure - but they didn't. Patel tweeted about it while they were investigating, including pointing fingers at the wrong "subject", twice. He's perhaps the most indiscreet FBI director they've ever had. He is terrible - but loyal to Donald
I will have to admit with you that the FBI really didn't do much in finding this guy. It was a regular "48 Hours" murder case investigation on the local law enforcement's part. But I still have confidence in Kash Patel and the FBI. Now if there is more to the story than what law enforcement is letting on then I would give them more credit.
 
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