Ah, another day, another round of supporting and defending people convicted of crimes related to sec abuse as really “not all that bad.” How nice.

Brightfame52 said:

Sounds like bragging rights to me

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Calvinists can brag that they're chosen by God

Always in His Presence said:

A national gun registry has been spoken of.

• Second Amendment Rights: Many opponents believe a registry infringes on the right to keep and bear arms by enabling future restrictions or confiscation.

Additionally there are over 500,000,000 million civilian firearms in America. The law abiding will more likely than not - the criminal definitely will not. Sort of like locking the door after the house was robbed.

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The Second Amendment does mention "a well regulated militia" as a reason for its being.

Richard T said:

If someone steals your car and kills someone with it, that is not your fault, though if you left the keys in it you might have a civil cuit.

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If someone steals your car, you report it stolen and turn in your registration. We could have the same thing with guns - if yours gets stolen, report the theft and cancel the registration. If someone is killed before reporting and deregistration, an investigation is warranted for either the car or the gun.

probinson said:

Ridiculous and inane hyperbole aside, I will be interested to see how this affects vaccine uptake.

Florida isn't ending vaccination. They're ending vaccination mandates. I guess the people making these apoplectic predictions must believe that the majority of people are vaccinating their children simply because they MUST. I tend to believe that most people vaccinate their children because they think it's in their best interest to do so, not because they're being forced to do so.

Sure, there are those who refuse vaccines, but that happens now with exemptions for all kinds of reasons. I will be curious to see how the removal of mandates affects vaccine uptake.

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Reduced uptake doesn't have to stem from anti-vax ideologies. Mandates can be useful against more mundane factors like procrastination and forgetfulness. Even for a parent who values vaccines, it can be tricky to schedule them when you're dealing with poor insurance, poor transportation, an overburdened doctor's office, and/or a job with unpredictable or inflexible hours. And when stuff like this is a hassle, it can be easy to put off (and ultimately forget about) without some other force (like a mandate) pushing you to get it done. Heck, I put off my own medical care sometimes just because it's a hassle, and that's despite me having a car and an extremely flexible wfh job.

PloverWing said:

I got a bit lost in this sentence; can you clarify? Is it Common Worship, or the 1928 book, or the 1662 book that contains material offensive to current Anglicans? Can you say in a sentence what material you're referring to? I don't recall seeing anything offensive in Common Worship, but maybe you have one of the older books in mind.

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I was referring to the 1662 book, forgive me. I love Common Worship.

Most Anglicans I am aware of object to one or more aspects of it, variously ranging from the wife pledging to obey the husband in Matrimony to the Black Rubric, the Commination and the Visitation of the Sick. The Deposited Book and the 1928 American book have the virtue of having the presbyter lay hands on the sick and optionally anoint them with oil and pray for them rather than delivering a lecture about how their illness is God’s just punishment for their sins (the Visitation of Prisoners from the 1666 Irish BCP is even worse, insofar as it does not envisage the possibility of one unjustly detained).

Indeed I would say the 1892, 1928 and 1979 American BCP, the 1929 Scottish BCP, the 1938 Melanesian BCP, and the 1928 Deposited Book are my favorite versions, and I also love the Anglican Service Book, a traditional language adaptation of tne 1979 BCP (which comes very close to being my favorite but for a few … minor problems, but the beauty of the 1979 version is that it is in the public domain and the rubrics expressly allow traditional language adaptations of it, and “Rite III“ also provides enough flexibility to celebrate, for instance, the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom, which some Episcopal parishes have done, and which I love to see. Conversely, the 1666 Irish Book is my least favorite, since in addition to the Visitation of Prisoners, it also has failed to engender the likable traditional parishes in the UK such as the Temple Church which continue to use the best parts of the 1662 version.

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Also far be it from me as a clergyman to correct what an outsider believes….

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It is though a travesty that professed Christians washed by the same blood of Christ are outsiders from your church. I hold the hope that our Lord Jesus will one day rectify this since all saved Christians are going to the same heaven.

Have a blessed day.

NxNW said:

I thought the GOP claimed to be concerned about the lives of children?

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Many people claim things. Following through... not so much.

With no end in sight, National Guard troops deployed to DC grow weary​

One soldier from Tennessee told his father that from 4 p.m. to 4 a.m. every day, his only task is to walk around Chinatown. Another service member from Mississippi told a loved one that she’d been repeatedly cursed at while on patrol. During a call to his wife, a guardsman from Louisiana said there was confusion about what the military was actually doing there.

“We haven’t gotten critically low on morale, but we’re falling fast,” said one soldier who, like others quoted in this story, spoke to CNN on the condition of anonymity because they’re not authorized to speak to the media and feared reprisal.

Guard members on the DC mission and their relatives who spoke to CNN said they left behind civilian jobs and children to serve – a sacrifice they understood when they enlisted.

And while domestic missions typically have National Guard troops responding to crises like hurricanes or wildfires, in DC, much of their work has involved more mundane tasks – patrolling popular tourist destinations and assisting with “beautification projects” including picking up trash, raking leaves and laying mulch. ... the mother of another soldier from Mississippi said her daughter is missing out on “a lot of first events with her child” to serve in Washington.

For a mission that already carries a price tag of about $1 million a day, costs are continuing to mount.

An additional $5 million for a tent city has also been approved, the contracts show, along with $600,000 in air conditioning rental

A South Carolina National Guard officer who knows soldiers deployed to Washington said that all servicemembers must obey lawful orders, but “the problem is, this is not a clear set mission.”

“If you wanted to be smart about it, then you might send a water purification unit to DC to help them with purifying water, or you could’ve sent an agriculture unit to help with farming,” the officer said. “But an infantry unit to rake? That doesn’t make any sense.”

Richard T said:

If someone steals your car and kills someone with it, that is not your fault, though if you left the keys in it you might have a civil cuit. Guns will always be stolen, even the Federal Government has had guns stolen directly from them. Narcotics that kill are also stolen from hopsitals, clinics, pharmacies etc and they also kill (perhaps more than guns I imagine) So to put the blame on responsible gun owners for a theft of their gun seems unfair. A state could define responsible gun ownership though but it should not be allowed to infringe on the right of self protection. For instance, to protect yourself you can't have every gun in a safe all the time and still defend yourself from sudden threats. However, to leave a gun unlocked in a home where minors are seems justified for some regulation. The law would have to be crafted very carefully though. Perhaps some states have these laws now?
Also, currently there is no requirement for reporting a stolen gun. That seems strange to me. Many do self-report, but it is not required.
Here is the raw data though on how many guns are not registered. It is rare if they are. I imagine too that even of the 6 million, many have already been transfered from the registered owner to another person, perhaps even several times.

• Self-reported gun ownership in America increased by 28% from 1994 to 2023.
• Based on NICS background data and manufacturing records, it is estimated that there are 500 million civilian-owned firearms in the U.S.
• Only 6.06 million firearms are registered in America (the U.S. does not require registration for all firearms).

How Many Gun Owners are in America? (2025 Statistics)

How many gun owners are there in America in 2024? We'll break down the numbers in this article.

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You have raised a good point, and is worth consideration.

Hoping2 said:

Salvation is indeed 100% from God.
It is also through Jesus Christ.
But like any gift/present, it takes one's opening of the gift in order to use it.

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This is error comparing spiritual gifts that are unseen, with physical material things. They are not the same

Getting a bit like fall I think.

A2SG said:

Next, let's see if he can get the trains to run on time.

-- A2SG, seems he is on track for that kinda thing...

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I don't know if it's been mentioned yet, but...

Trump extends control over Washington by taking management of Union Station away from Amtrak​

eclipsenow said:

Seriously - is the guy OK?
I know he has NPD and lives to troll people - but this is a lot even for him.

Don't MAGA cringe with embarrassment when he opens his mouth?

When are the adults in the room going to say it's time for the 25th? It's just shameful now.

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First off, whats the source?

Second, hes right about Americans. Probably not most, but a lot of them for sure.
Theyd like to see:
one-party rule,
a super strong executive,
a rubber stamp Duma style congress,
an option for indefinite terms in office.
martial rather than civil law.

FireDragon76 said:

Your comment lacks context. Many European countries don't have mandatory vaccination policies because most people get vaccinated out of a sense of trust in the institutions (where healthcare is often free at the point of service), a sense of social duty, and not because they reject the logic of vaccination.

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You're correct.

Do you think the way to build trust in people skeptical of vaccines is to force them to vaccinate their children?

public hermit said:

doctrine of transubstantiation was not clearly established until Lateran IV in 1215

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The specific model, yes. But there were older models such as that of Theodore of Mopsuestia that were even more specific, and the Eastern churche (Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox and the Church of the East) have not only always believed that the bread and wine are the true Body and Blood of Christ our God, as evinced by the Eucharistic text, but we also originated the Presanctified Liturgy and the reservation of the sacrament (actually most likely the first Presanctified Liturgy was the Signing of the Chalice written by St. Severus of Antioch, which the Eastern Orthodox refined as the Presanctified Liturgy of St. James and which was then adopted by the Armenians, Assyrians and the Copts (the Coptic version is lost but the Armenian text survives and the Assyrians recently resumed celebrating this liturgy), and then Pope St. Gregory I, the Dialogist as we venerate him in the Eastern Orthodox church, composed the definitive version still in use in the Orthodox Church at present and used in all Roman Rite parishes until it was rewritten by Pope Pius XII in his spectacularly ill advised changes to the Paschal Triduum in 1955, which I would argue were more destructive of cultural heritage than the Novus Ordo Missae, since the Triduum is the apex of the liturgical year and no entirely licit way exists for RCC or SSPX priests to celebrate the ancient pre-1955 version with all of its manifold parallels to the Byzantine Rite services of the Tridion.

At any rate, when I see people criticizing transubstantiation, unless they are Lutherans or Orthodox or others who I know are specifically criticizing the Aristotelian philosophical technicalities of the Thomistic explanation, it is usually a safe bet their objection is actually to the Real Presence (as differentiated to Calvinist spiritual presence or Receptionism, essentially any Eucharistic doctrine that would oppose the Reservation of the Sacrament or the Presanctified Liturgy).

If this is not the case in your post, and you are only criticizing the Thomistic doctrine, do forgive me.

zoidar said:

If they believed in Moses they would have been drawn to Jesus.

For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?”
— John 5:46-47

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Rabbit trail. Jesus taught mans spiritual inability to believe in Him. Jn 6:44

The Liturgist said:

...Common Worship, still in use today, the traditional language services of which including Holy Communion owe more to the 1928 Deposited Book than to the 1662 BCP which still remains nominally official but which contains some material offensive to most Anglicans at present...

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I got a bit lost in this sentence; can you clarify? Is it Common Worship, or the 1928 book, or the 1662 book that contains material offensive to current Anglicans? Can you say in a sentence what material you're referring to? I don't recall seeing anything offensive in Common Worship, but maybe you have one of the older books in mind.

US weekly jobless claims rise as labor market eases​

Initial claims for state unemployment benefits rose 8,000 to a seasonally adjusted 237,000 for the week ended August 30, the Labor Department said on Thursday.

Job growth has shifted into stall-speed, with economists blaming President Donald Trump's sweeping import tariffs and an immigration crackdown that is hampering hiring at construction sites and restaurants.

The government reported on Wednesday that there were more unemployed people than positions available in July for the first time since the COVID-19 pandemic.

Hentenza said:

My argument is against transubstantiation not against real presence. Your argument above centers on real presence, which is your church’s belief.

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Forgive me, but it seems you and I do not agree on the meaning of the Real Presence because your criticism of the Roman Catholic position has not been nearly specific enough so as to only critique the Thomistic doctrine.

Also far be it for me as a clergyman to correct what an outsider believes is the doctrine of the Orthodox Church, but it is the case that some Orthodox fathers have described our doctrine as transubstantiation, without reference to the exact Aristotelian categories used by Aquinas (which are nonetheless helpful but perhaps overly restrictive - the problem with transubstantiation is it does not explain miracles where the accidents have also apparently changed and people have seen flesh and blood on the altar in various forms, which led to a Muslim converting to Orthodoxy and winning a crown of martyrdom, and similar experiences for Roman Catholics).

essentialsaltes said:

Poll shows a majority of Americans don't want Trump to send National Guard to major cities — as he says Chicago and Baltimore are next​

Even more respondents say they would disapprove of the president deploying the military where they live.​

37% of Americans say they would approve of the president sending soldiers to other “major cities” after D.C.

In contrast, a majority — 53% — say they would disapprove.

Three weeks after declaring a crime emergency and deploying the National Guard in D.C. — something Trump has the legal authority to do — more Americans disapprove (48%) than approve (39%) of his federal takeover of the nation’s capital.

A majority of Americans (56%) would disapprove of Trump sending soldiers to patrol their local streets (though 69% of Republicans say they would approve).

"The line is that I'm a dictator,” Trump said. “But I stop crime. So a lot of people say, ‘You know, if that's the case, I'd rather have a dictator.’” The president then added that he is “not a dictator.”

just 14% of Americans say they would approve of "the U.S. having a dictator if it led to much lower levels of crime”; 69% say they would disapprove. Even among Republicans, only 27% say they would approve of the hypothetical scenario Trump described.

Only 27%?!?

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Next, let's see if he can get the trains to run on time.

-- A2SG, seems he is on track for that kinda thing...

wing2000 said:

Plus 500?

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If we lose 100 qualified judges, and add 600 unqualified military lawyers, there will be a net gain of 500 butts in seats.

rambot said:

Maybe they could just work on selling hot dogs from carts during festivals.

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Hopefully the out of staters get proper ketchup training or there could be bloodshed.