Douggg
anytime rapture, non-dispensationalist, futurist
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It does not say "one" who is worthy.OF COURSE there is an indication of history! John saw a throne room where Jesus was absent, he watched a search for one worthy that ended in failure, and he was the Holy Spirit in the throne room when Jesus said He would send Him down. This is THREE indications.
The angel asked "Who is worthy". He was speaking to John, the elders, and the four beasts in the assembly. The angel was asking which one of them could open the book. No-one on earth heard the question.
There was not a search launched as a result of the question as you are saying. It was a question of who of them could be determined to be worthy enough to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof.
And in the next verse, it specifically says "no man".
Then in the next verse, "found" in that verse does not indicate a search was launched for someone.
It means that of men; John, in verses 4 and 5, knew whether a man is in heaven, such as the elders or John himself, or on the earth - no man is worthy because all men have sinned.
3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.
It was one of the elders, which were men, who were there with John, who was weeping, consoled him - by saying, " Weep not, behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof."
Jesus, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, and the Lamb of God, materialized Himself in the midst of of the four beast, the elders, and John who was there with them... from the glory of the throne of God.
It was not as Jesus had just been slain - because the elders were there in heaven, before the throne, as a result of the death and resurrection of Jesus.
The elders and John knew Jesus was there in heaven, which gave one of them reason to comfort John, which he could speak with confidence.
And Jesus with that cue from the elder, "behold", materialized Himself in the midst of the fours beasts, the elders, and John - with the visual reason why He was worthy.
The appearing as a lamb that had been slain was some sort of holographic image to his raiment. The point was being made of why Jesus was worthy.
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Put yourself in John's shoes.
You are there in heaven, millions of angels present. And 24 elders, men like yourself, and four beasts.
A book is presented from the throne of God. And an angel says "to you and the 24 elders" in essence - which of you are worthy to remove the seals so the book can be opened.
You know that you are not worthy. You know the 24 elders, men like yourself are not worthy, and you know that no man on earth is worthy. And because none of you or your fellows are worthy - you weep. Because the question is being asked of John and the elders there - for one of them to remove the seals.
Then one of the elders basically replied, do not worry, although we are not worthy, Jesus is worthy. And he will unloosen the seals and open the book.
"behold" is a cue from the elder, for Jesus to appear close to John - from the glory of the throne of God. The elders obviously included many known prophets from the old testament, and John the baptist.
John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
Revelation 5:5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
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