Do you not understand that experiments show that certain conditions trigger subconscious reactions? Most of what we do is below the level at which we are conscious of making decisions. You react subconciously to any number of influences just as we all do. And you think you are unique?
It's quite a moment when we discover we're not. It's quite a moment when we realise that we are so similar. That we are governed by the same urges and biases as are other people. It's a certain liberation to come to terms with that. Because it means that if you understand what makes you tick, you have an opportunity to change the path that your subconscious chooses.
And I'm not going to be able to persuade you of this, but if you are the least racist person that you know, it doesn't mean that you have no racist tendencies.
I'm finding this astonishingly difficult to get across. You seem to know nothing about the case. Please listen up...
The scum is charged with murder. He might also, in addition, be charged with a hate crime. They are two separate fellonies. His lawyer has put forward the suggestion that this piece of dirt is himself gay proposing thereby that it wasn't therefore a hate crime. Implying that he couldn't hate gays because he was gay himself. Go figure that proposal yourself, but it it's proposed for that reason.
It might be true. It might not. But the motive for bringing it up should now be crystal clear.
Once you admit it's possibility....you've gone against the entire movement.
There's no way to prove or disprove any of this stuff. What possible justification exists for putting a kid on hormones and puberty blockers if he might be motivated by something other than gender dysphoria? How would a kid know if they were simply doing it out of peer or parent pressure as opposed to genuine internal conflict?
Why would we ever allow biological men to compete with women? Why would we ever house male inmates with female ones?
The whole affirmative care model looks like a horrible money making scheme damaging innumerable people.
You can't entertain the possibility these claims are fake and then advocate for them as if they're all true.
So far only the attorneys have made this claim. Do you have any evidence the shooter has made the claim?So what's his motive for claiming he's LGBTQ? What's it really going to do for him?
You have a point about him not ever getting out. The lawyer's claims - no matter if they are true or not - won't make a hill of beans difference. He will never be able to join society again.Oh good grief, what is he going to accomplish by this? He killed a bunch of people. So what's his motive for claiming he's LGBTQ? What's it really going to do for him? He's going to get 300 years in prison instead of 500 years? He's going to prison for the rest of his life. So what's the point of making this claim. He's not going to benefit from it. I can see doing it if you are trying to avoid extra penalties for assault or maybe something else. But this? It's not going to make any difference. He will rot in jail regardless of a hate crime or not.
So no I don't see his motive here.
So far only the attorneys have made this claim. Do you have any evidence the shooter has made the claim.
So far only the attorneys have made this claim. Do you have any evidence the shooter has made the claim.
You're the one that said the shooter claimed he was LBGTQ, I was just wondering where you got this information.Is your claim the attorneys are lying then?
Why would they make this claim? What's the motive?
Sounds like you're using the "You're guilty of racism simply because I say you are and there's no way to refute it" argument here.First up, we're not talking about overt racism - 'I don't like the Chinese, Arabs are dirty' etc. Secondly, a subconscious tendency actually means one that's below the level at which you can consciously perceive it. But there are experiments and tests that show them. And more examples that you'll possibly have time to assimilate.
And thirdly, you might actually be the first person without any inherrent tendancies and certainly the first to consciously be aware of what your subconscious does.
You're the one that said the shooter claimed he was LBGTQ, I was just wondering where you got this information.
I've been around the block a few times. And been around a few blocks as well. I've been to many places where I've mixed with people that aren't like me. And I've caught myself on very many occasions thinking something that was an incorrect but automatic reaction. And I had to consciously correct myself. I had to reset as it were. To remind myself that these reactions are inbuilt. That they were there for a reason. That it's not my fault that I have them. I needn't feel guilty. It's only my fault if I act on them unthinkingly.If you want to claim you are racist in some fashion be my guest. I patently deny that I am. And I just a sneaking suspicion you aren't either. You've just bought the poison they are selling.
Nowhere have I suggested that anyone is guilty in having these tendencies. In fact I have specifically said that you cannot be guilty for having them. But if you know that they will arise unbidden and you do nothing about them and accept them unthinkingly, then that is a different matter.Sounds like you're using the "You're guilty of racism simply because I say you are and there's no way to refute it" argument here.
Sounds like you're using the "You're guilty of racism simply because I say you are and there's no way to refute it" argument here.
Is that really so drastically different from believing everyone’s a sinner?Yes now you get it! We are all racists to some degree or another. Even if you never do anything that's racist you still are one.
Quite right. If you actually accept that you have a tendency to sin and you can consciously avoid doing so, then you're better for it. It's one of the three Delphic maxims: Know thyself.Is that really so drastically different from believing everyone’s a sinner?
Is that really so drastically different from believing everyone’s a sinner?