God's Timeline

[iamlamad]

This is not correct, Bishop Ussher mis-calculated and I prove it:

7000 years from the Creation to the Completion of Mankind:

Genesis 1:27 Adam was created in 3970.5 BCE [subtracted back from 586 BCE]

Gen 5:3 Seth +130, Gen 5:6 Enoch +105, Gen 5:9 Kenan +90, Gen 5:12 Mahalalel +70, Gen 5:15 Jared +65, Gen 5:18 Enoch +162, Gen 5:21 Methuselah +65, Gen 5:25 Lamech +187, Gen 5:28 Noah+182, Gen 6:7 The Flood came when Noah was +600, Gen 11:10 Our year 2314.5 BCE

Arpachshad +2 - born to Shem after the flood. Gen 11:12 Selah +35, Gen 11:14 Heber +30, Gen 11:16 Peleg +34, Gen 11:18 Reu +30, Gen 11:20 Serug +32, Gen 11:22 Nahor +30 , Gen 11:24 Terah +29, Gen 11:26 Abram +70, Abram was +52 when God called him and they left Ur. Our year 1970.5 BCE He lived in Haran for 23 years, then went to Canaan at age 75. Genesis 12:4
Total years so far = 2000


Gen 17:1, Abraham was 99 when the Covenant was made with God. +47 Genesis 17:1-8

Galatians 3:17 Paul states that the Law was given +430 after the Covenant. Total years elapsed until the Exodus – 2477, in our year 1493.5 BCE.

[Many ancient records say Comet Typhon passed close the earth at that time. It was the cause of many of the disasters in Egypt.]

1 Kings 6:1 The Temple construction starts, in the 4th year of King Solomon +480 since the Torah was given at the Exodus.. 1 Kings 11:42 Solomon 40 minus 4 = +36, 1 Kings 14:21 Rehoboam +17, 1 Kings 15:2 Abijah +3, 2 Chron 16:13 Asa +41, 1 Kings 22:42 Jehoshaphat +25, 2 Kings 8:17 Jehoram +8, 2 Kings 8:26 Ahaziah +1, 2 Kings 11:1-3 Athaliah +6, 2 Kings 12:1-3 Joash +40, 2 Kings 14:1-2 Amaziah +29, 2 Kings 15:1-2 Azariah +52, 2 Kings 15:32 Jotham +16, 2 Kings 16:1-2 Ahaz +16, 2 Kings 18:1-2 Hezekiah +29, 2 Kings 21:1 Manasseh +55, 2 Kings 21:19 Amon +2, 2 Kings 22:1-2 Josiah +31, 2 Kings 22:31 Jehoahaz +3mths, 2 Kings 23:31 Jehoiakim +11, 2 Kings 24:8 Jehoichin +3mths, 2 Kings 24:18 Zedekiah +11, who ruled until the Babylonian captivity in our year 586 BCE.

Total elapsed years to the first exile of Judah = 3386.5

586 BCE + 613.5 years + 2 comes to 29.5 CE, the date of Jesus’ baptism. Luke 3:1 Plus 2 to include the total number of elapsed years, as our calendar system counts years from their commencement.

3386.5 + 613.5 = 4000 years from Adam to Jesus.


January 2018 CE - 29.5 CE = 1988.5 years since the commencement of Jesus’ Ministry.

1988.5 + 4000 = 5988.5 years, is where we are now. 5988.5 + 11.5 = 6000 years

2018 CE + 11.5 = 2029.5 CE Exactly 2000 years to the end of the present Church age.

4000 since Abraham, 6000 since Adam. Next comes the 1000 year reign of Jesus.

7000 years is God’s decreed time for mankind.

Those who have been found worthy will go into Eternity with God. Revelation 22:1-5
Ref: logostelos.info

Thanks, Keras!

 

[section9+1]

All that work plus a buck or two should be worth a cup of coffee most anyplace in town.

 

[JacksBratt]

Thanks to all those with their elaborate calculations and date setting..

I am now positive that it is absolutely NOT any of those times and dates.

 

[R.A.M.]

Thanks to all those with their elaborate calculations and date setting..

I am now positive that it is absolutely NOT any of those times and dates.

Way to live up to your title.

 

[A71]

God's Kingdom Ministries :: Appendix D: Chronology of History from Creation to the Present

Dr Jones dates creation to 3895BC. His research is pretty thorough actually.

His date for the Law, 1447BC, is correct.

He has more than a few false ideas, but the calendar is well researched.

What I particularly like is that from creation to John the Baptist is 56 70 year generations and 49 80 year generations, forming a new generation in AD27.
(With typical opaqueness, Dr Jones then sells himself short by dating John The Baptist's Ministry to AD29; however AD27 is the correct date.)

 

[keras]

God's Kingdom Ministries :: Appendix D: Chronology of History from Creation to the Present

Dr Jones dates creation to 3895BC. His research is pretty thorough actually.

His date for the Law, 1447BC, is correct.

He has more than a few false ideas, but the calendar is well researched.

What I particularly like is that from creation to John the Baptist is 56 70 year generations and 49 80 year generations, forming a new generation in AD27.
(With typical opaqueness, Dr Jones then sells himself short by dating John The Baptist's Ministry to AD29; however AD27 is the correct date.)

I looked at Dr Jones timeline.
I note a few errors, but his date for the Baptism of Jesus is correct. His use of many non-Biblical sources places his work into the fiction category.

 

[parousia70]

The phrase you've selected actually means that once it begins, the following events will happen very quickly.

I selected 2 passages.
Are you suggesting that the meaning of near that you supplied for Revelation 1 is the same meaning for near in Matthew 24?

That Matthew 24:33 should read:
"When you see all these things, know it still could be thousands of years away, but once it happens, it will happen quickly"?

Our modern English translations are woefully misleading. If we want to stand on Scripture, we Have to learn the Greek and Hebrew texts.

The Greek for Near in Both passages is the same.
Please elaborate on Matthew's usage.

 

[parousia70]

But what was prophesied didn't happen 'shortly' and therefore we know that the timing John used was God's timing; that is: 1 day to God equals 1000 years earth time.
So there has been a little under 2 days since John wrote Revelation, just a short time for God.

Your beliefs, Parousia, leave you without any knowledge of what God plans for our future. This isn't right, as God has given prophecy for our study and warnings about what must happen.

I'm not sure why you bother with me Keras.

 

[keras]

I'm not sure why you bother with me Keras.

I only do it because someone needs to refute your preterist notions.
People who look at Prophecy forums, want to know something about what God has planned for our future. Your posts are contradictory to that aim.

 

[Ken Rank]

From Creation, to Crucifixion, to Rapture, to Judgment, to Armageddon.

Adam was created 4004 B.C. according to the genealogies of The Word.
The World: Born in 4004 BC?
I will use 4004 B.C. as 0 C.E. And explain the "calendar" of God.

7 year shmitah cycles. 7th year is a sabbatical year.
12 is commonly used by God as a division of years, of dividing labor, apostles, tribes, constellations, etc.
The approaching end of the age viewed in the light of history, prophecy and science

7x12=84 (12 shmitah/sabattical years)

84x12=1008 (12 shmitah x 12 = 1 millenium)

1008×4=4032 (4th millennium = sacrifice of Christ (28 A.D.))

1008×6=6048 (6th millennium = Return of Christ (2044 A.D.))

6048 C.E. : 6th millennium ends 2 years before the 120th Sabbath (50x120=6050)
"And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years."


1008x7=7056 (end of the millennial reign of Christ on this earth, beginning of Armageddon, then the New Heaven and New Earth)

1st miennium 0 C.E. - 1008 C.E. / 20 Jubilees
2nd 1008 C.E. - 2016 C.E. / 20 Jubilees
3rd 2016 C.E. - 3024 C.E. / 20 Jubilees
4th 3024 C.E. - 4032 C.E. / 20 Jubiless
5th 4032 C.E. - 5040 C.E. / 20 Jubilees
6th 5040 C.E. - 6048 C.E. / 20 Jubilees
7th 6048 C.E. - 7056 C.E. / 21 Jubilees

Crucifixion of Christ
April 28th 4004 C.E./ 28 A.D.
1st feast: Passover
10) PhD Dates Crucifixion to AD 28 - 2028 End (Of The World)

(Christ then fulfilled the feasts of Unleavened Bread, and First Fruits; on their days. Ascended into heaven 10 days before Pentecost. Pentecost was then fulfilled on its day by the Impartation of the Holy Spirit
A Concise Overview of the Seven Feasts of Israel )

Rapture of the Spirit Filled Believers in Christ
Sept 8th 6044 C.E./2040 A.D.
Planetary Alignment of Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn and the Crescent (New) Moon; on the 5th Feast, the Feast of Trumpets.
2040 - Wikipedia
Jewish Calendar 2040 | Hebcal Jewish Calendar
Interestingly the Hebrew names of each of these planets and a New Moon all have a meaning, and in the order of their alignment create a cohesive sentence:

Mercury: the light bearers
Venus: are liberated
Mars: those who are covered by His blood
(Litteraly "the Red Ones)
Jupiter: are redeemed
Saturn: for the Sabbath
Crescent/New Moon: through the door to the inner room of Almighty God.


Return of Christ for The Judgment:
Oct 1st 6048 C.E./2044 A.D.
Bethlehem star, sign of The Son of Man which is the Occultation of Regulus by Venus
On the 6th Feast, the feast of Atonement/Yom Kippur
2044 - Wikipedia
Jewish Calendar 2044 | Hebcal Jewish Calendar
Star of Bethlehem - Wikipedia

If you read all of the way through, thank you. I hope this helps create a dialogue of constructive investigation, not accusative arguements without mutual respect I know it's a hot topic.

The dates are a guess, not biblical fact. The truth is we do not know with 100% certainty that the Earth was created in -4004 or that Yeshua was crucified in 28AD. Though I lean toward these dates myself, there are just as good arguments that can be made for a few other years. What we do know is it wasn't what we might call "0" that he was born.

 

[R.A.M.]

I selected 2 passages.
Are you suggesting that the meaning of near that you supplied for Revelation 1 is the same meaning for near in Matthew 24?

That Matthew 24:33 should read:
"When you see all these things, know it still could be thousands of years away, but once it happens, it will happen quickly"?



The Greek for Near in Both passages is the same.
Please elaborate on Matthew's usage.

You've selected the wrong word, it is preceded by the phrase in this first verse by this phrase:

δεῖ γενέσθαι ἐν τάχει

 

[R.A.M.]

The dates are a guess, not biblical fact. The truth is we do not know with 100% certainty that the Earth was created in -4004 or that Yeshua was crucified in 28AD. Though I lean toward these dates myself, there are just as good arguments that can be made for a few other years. What we do know is it wasn't what we might call "0" that he was born.

We CAN know! How did the magi KNOW that Christ has come to earth???? Why Did Christ rebuke the Pharisees telling them how is it that they could discern coming storms in the sky, but not the Signs of His arrival???

It is because he Signified His Arrival in the very heavens, so it couldn't be missed!
Sadly, like the Pharisees of old, our "preachers", can't interpret a Dog turd from a poisoned blade.
But the signs are coming, on the feast days, 2040, 2044.

 

[A71]

Even if we perfectly understand the timelines of prophecy, and understand all scripture perfectly, and understand Revelation as further clarification, I am not sure we can say with precision when Christ will return.

 

[R.A.M.]

4004 b.c. is an accurate date for the year of creation. Ussher's work stood at the height of Biblical research for hundreds of years until the academic world began promoting the theory of evolution. He had access to information which no longer exists, and wrote over 1600 pages of research and explanation on the matter. Other attempts are always close, but have never been as well researched or annotated. This work was His mission in life, and if you truly pour through the pages of it, he accomplished the task which God had set before him.

1000 years is a milleniam, yes. However God always counts things a bit differently then we do.
1000 (a milleniam) + 8 (A new begining)
1008 is also (7×12) × (12)
1008 × 6 = 6048
What A.D. year would be 6048 if indeed the world began 4004 B.C.?
6048 - 4004 = 2044 (A.D.)

Does anything significant happen 2044 A.D. that might mark the return of Christ and the Fulfillment of His feasts?

Yes, the SIXTH FEAST, the feast of ATONEMENT, coincides that year with THE SIGN OF THE SUN OF MAN, THE STAR OF BETHLEHEM. Which will be the third time it has EVER happened in earths HISTORY.

AND 4 years before that, is a sign on the 5 Feast, the FEAST of TRUMPETS.
WHICH HAPPENS ON A SATURDAY 2040 A.D.
MEANING THE JEWS WILL NOT BE BLOWING TRUMPETS ON THE FEAST OF TRUMPETS.
(HE COMES AS A THIEF IN THE NIGHT,(EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE ANOUNCING HIS ARRIVAL))

THE SYMBOL OF THE FULFILLMENT OF THE 5TH FEAST, 2040, IS A PLENTARY ALIGNMENT BEHIND A NEW MOON. EVERY PLANET KIND N THIS ALIGNMENT HAS AN ANCIENT HEBREW NAME. A NAME WITH A MEANING. IF YOU ALIGN THE TRANSLATIONS OF THEOR NAMES, WITHER THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY WILL ALIGN, IT SPELLS AN HONEST TO GOD MESSAGE.

Mercury: the light bearers
Venus: are liberated
Mars: those who are covered by His blood
(Litteraly "the Red Ones)
Jupiter: are redeemed
Saturn: for the Sabbath
Crescent Moon: through the door to the inner room of Almighty God.

 

[R.A.M.]

I apologize for auto correct.

 

[R.A.M.]

Even if we perfectly understand the timelines of prophecy, and understand all scripture perfectly, and understand Revelation as further clarification, I am not sure we can say with precision when Christ will return.

I would have emphatically agreed with you my entire life. Until Christ showed me this.

 

[A71]

There may be something in what you say. I go on the belief Jesus could return now....better safe than sorry.

In terms of timelines, the second watch ends 2032, the third starts 2033.

These dates are also mapped out in Daniel and Revelation.

 

[Ken Rank]

We CAN know! How did the magi KNOW that Christ has come to earth???? Why Did Christ rebuke the Pharisees telling them how is it that they could discern coming storms in the sky, but not the Signs of His arrival???

It is because he Signified His Arrival in the very heavens, so it couldn't be missed!
Sadly, like the Pharisees of old, our "preachers", can't interpret a Dog turd from a poisoned blade.
But the signs are coming, on the feast days, 2040, 2044.

Dog turd? I guess you elevate yourself above others?

Look... just give me some TIME PERIOD SOURCES and you will have made a wonderful point. Without them, you have nothing.

 

[parousia70]

You've selected the wrong word

No, I have not.

In BOTH Revelation 1:3 and Matthew 24:33 the Greek word for Near is "Eggus"

Strong's Concordance
eggus: near (in place or time)
Original Word: ἐγγύς
Part of Speech: Adverb
Transliteration: eggus
Phonetic Spelling: (eng-goos')
Short Definition: near
Definition: near.Definition
near (in place or time)
Translation
close (1), near (27), nearby (1), nearer (1), ready (1).

Please show me ANY source that supports your claim that "eggus" means "Could be thousands of years away, but once it starts it will unfold quickly."

 

[A71]

Yes. It is unequivocal
And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.

The events of Revelation started in AD96....