Jamdoc
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"best type of vaccine" rofl
no
nothing about these vaccines are "best" mRNA and Viral Vector vaccines are both new and relatively untested, especially for long term effects, and immunologically speaking, i can see several faults in them.
Namely that they cause your cells to attach viral proteins to their own surface, increasing the likelyhood of autoimmunity and cross reactivity and causing higher amounts of inflammation than usually experienced after a vaccination.
Secondly, the spike protein itself is a vascular toxin, so having your body produce it does damage to your bodies, the longer they're produced, the more damage done, J+J and Astra-zeneca cause your body to produce spike protein for longer periods of time, which is why they're more prone to causing blood clots (and why Covid 19 itself causes blood clots, the spike protein is toxic all by itself).
Lastly, because companies put all their eggs in one basket, focusing entirely on the spike protein, the effectiveness of the vaccines is dropping with each variant of the virus, because the protein the virus is mutating IS the spike protein that you've developed antibodies against. Those antibodies are specific for one protein, if that protein changes.. they're no longer as good of a fit so they provide less protection.
This is insanity, because virtually all previous vaccines have exposed your body to MULTIPLE proteins from a virus, so there's a more robust and redundant immunity to them, if the virus mutates one target protein, the antibodies against the other proteins on the viral surface are still targeted and so the virus is still effectively neutralized.
This is why those who have had the infection are less likely to be infected by delta than those who have had the vaccine.
Those who are naturally immune from a previous infection made antibodies not only against Protein S (spike protein) but Protein N (Nucleocapsid Protein), the viral envelope, and there are about 25 other proteins on the virus to protect against. The chances of the virus mutating ALL of them to make natural immunity ineffective is negligible. But the chances of the virus mutating 1 of them is evidently much higher, because it's happening.
the "best vaccines" will be protein based, not mRNA or DNA based, and will combine multiple proteins from the virus to provide a more robust and redundant immunity.
When such a vaccine exists? I'll be much more likely to take it. But right now?
I'm already autoimmune, so I have higher risks from the vaccines for developing more autoimmune diseases
and I'm on immunosuppressive medication for those autoimmune diseases, so the effectiveness of the vaccines to protect me are much lower, 30% (vs 90% for most people) against the original strain, and probably much lower against Delta.
So I have higher risk, with less reward for the vaccines.
no
nothing about these vaccines are "best" mRNA and Viral Vector vaccines are both new and relatively untested, especially for long term effects, and immunologically speaking, i can see several faults in them.
Namely that they cause your cells to attach viral proteins to their own surface, increasing the likelyhood of autoimmunity and cross reactivity and causing higher amounts of inflammation than usually experienced after a vaccination.
Secondly, the spike protein itself is a vascular toxin, so having your body produce it does damage to your bodies, the longer they're produced, the more damage done, J+J and Astra-zeneca cause your body to produce spike protein for longer periods of time, which is why they're more prone to causing blood clots (and why Covid 19 itself causes blood clots, the spike protein is toxic all by itself).
Lastly, because companies put all their eggs in one basket, focusing entirely on the spike protein, the effectiveness of the vaccines is dropping with each variant of the virus, because the protein the virus is mutating IS the spike protein that you've developed antibodies against. Those antibodies are specific for one protein, if that protein changes.. they're no longer as good of a fit so they provide less protection.
This is insanity, because virtually all previous vaccines have exposed your body to MULTIPLE proteins from a virus, so there's a more robust and redundant immunity to them, if the virus mutates one target protein, the antibodies against the other proteins on the viral surface are still targeted and so the virus is still effectively neutralized.
This is why those who have had the infection are less likely to be infected by delta than those who have had the vaccine.
Those who are naturally immune from a previous infection made antibodies not only against Protein S (spike protein) but Protein N (Nucleocapsid Protein), the viral envelope, and there are about 25 other proteins on the virus to protect against. The chances of the virus mutating ALL of them to make natural immunity ineffective is negligible. But the chances of the virus mutating 1 of them is evidently much higher, because it's happening.
the "best vaccines" will be protein based, not mRNA or DNA based, and will combine multiple proteins from the virus to provide a more robust and redundant immunity.
When such a vaccine exists? I'll be much more likely to take it. But right now?
I'm already autoimmune, so I have higher risks from the vaccines for developing more autoimmune diseases
and I'm on immunosuppressive medication for those autoimmune diseases, so the effectiveness of the vaccines to protect me are much lower, 30% (vs 90% for most people) against the original strain, and probably much lower against Delta.
So I have higher risk, with less reward for the vaccines.
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just not a fan of YAHOO NEWS. Then reading a study in which 800,000 were studied and with in those broke up to 3 different group where you are 13 times more likely to get covid if you have taken the vaccine vs those that got covid and are now covid free. Just another one of those lol "facts" that go against what the left is saying. 
