You are a biologist not a historian right? We are talking about the neolithic revolution, where it began and HOW it spread to Europe. IF you can not pack the show up and put it on the road then how did farming spread from the Middle East to Europe?
You know what. Knowing whether or not the flood happened or didn't happen.
I believe it did, you don't.
What I do care about and the most important message I have to give you. You wanted one subject, forget the flood, it's important for those of us who believe. Not to those who don't believe.
What do you believe happens to you after you die?
You get your information from books, correct?
The awesome part is the book I get my info from is True.
Genome analysis suggests that the two species are swapping genes at a surprising rate.
But each species has genome segments unique to its own kind, which seem to persist despite the mixing of the rest of the genome.
It’s as if these parts of the genome were made of oil and the rest of water; the water easily mixes but the oil remains in distinct droplets
The evidence of the flood is as follows:
Evidence 1: Fossils of sea creatures high above sea level due to the ocean waters having flooded over the continents
Evidence 2: Rapid burial of plants and animals
Evidence 3: Rapidly deposited sediment layers spread across vast areas
We find rock layers that can be traced all the way across continents—even between continents—and physical features in those strata indicate they were deposited rapidly. For example, the Tapeats Sandstone and Redwall Limestone of Grand Canyon can be traced across the entire United States, up into Canada, and even across the Atlantic Ocean to England. The chalk beds of England (the white cliffs of Dover) can be traced across Europe into the Middle East and are also found in the Midwest of the United States and in Western Australia. Inclined (sloping) layers within the Coconino Sandstone of Grand Canyon are testimony to 10,000 cubic miles of sand being deposited by huge water currents within days.
Evidence 4: Sediment transported long distances
We find that the sediments in those widespread, rapidly deposited rock layers had to be eroded from distant sources and carried long distances by fast-moving water.
For example, the sand for the Coconino Sandstone of Grand Canyon (Arizona) had to be eroded and transported from the northern portion of what is now the United States and Canada.
Evidence 5: Rapid or no erosion between strata
Correct. Science cannot learn about creation 7nless they know the creator, rather than shun Him from their fishbowl knowledge. Their growth has been severely stunted.Yes God gives us two witness, one is the laws that we learn about in Science, the other is the laws we received through Moses in the Bible. Of course sometimes Science gets it confused as they are trying to understand the physical laws that we find in nature. Just like Christians are trying to understand the Bible and how to apply God's commandments to our lives today. As Jesus said: "On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets." "For the whole Law is fulfilled in one word, in the statement, "YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF." It takes the entire Bible to teach us how to love God and how to love our neighbor as ourselves. Science has all of the universe to teach them about God and still somehow they do not always understand. Creation itself testifies about its Creator. King David said in the Psalms, “The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands” (Ps. 19:1)
What do you believe happens to you after you die?
Correct. Science cannot learn about creation 7nless they know the creator, rather than shun Him from their fishbowl knowledge. Their growth has been severely stunted.
Wrong, but since you have shown that you can't discuss science rationally there really is no point in discussing this with you. Sadly you deny all science but have no problem in hypocritically using the benefits of the science that you deny.Not true at all. Probably the uplifting of mountains to where there were real high ones came after the flood. You might as well recite Mother Goose tales.
I don't think he does that.Wrong, but since you have shown that you can't discuss science rationally there really is no point in discussing this with you. Sadly you deny all science but have no problem in hypocritically using the benefits of the science that you deny.
Wrong, your opinion on my level of Science means nothing.
Wrong, you have not shown ignorance on my part about any and all sciences. I can and have shown your ignorance of God. Because there is only one God, not different versions. Also incorrect, you have not shown or provided any evidence that God Jehovah has been refuted.
Wrong again, you do have faith.
It takes faith to believe your going to wake up in the morning.
Rom 12:3
For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.
Never said it, straw man on your part.
Wrong, I'm speaking about the same thing, God, His truth, forgiveness, righteousness and Justice. You my friend have changed the subject so much, it's crazy. your all over the place.
Doesn't prove that the flood didn't happen. Your correct it could have been a "population bottleneck" With just Noah and His family being the only Humans alive after the flood. But you forget one main thing, God was in charge. He knew this would happen and He knew what to do to repopulate.
You see, Noah lived to be 950 years. And his wife most likely lived as long also. That mean they could and most likely would have had many children during a lot of those years. Also there was Shem, Hem and Japeth and their wives, which they also lived for very long time after the flood. There's plenty of History about them, educate yourself and read about it.
Repopulation wasn't a problem.
Of course not. No one claims that any animals went from one kind to another.
Again, show me the evidence.
Wrong, Adam and Eve are our common ancestor....We're kin you and I.
Wrong, your ignorance on the heart of man, is why you spew so much false and unlogical statements about man.
Life can be better that good enough, When God is in the picture. Because without God, you have no base to compare what is right or wrong, good or bad.
Wrong, you just don't have an argument, nor evidence to back your claims.
Your right, there are bunch of different interpretations of the Bible. Are they all correct, No. Are they all even biblical? No.
There is only one God, Jehovah. His Son, Jesus and the Holy Ghost.
You can only get to the father through Christ. For He is the one who came to save the Lost. Like you and I.
But God Jehovah, has never been refuted.
I know this because He is still around, answering prayers. The core church is still here and there are many who have kept the faith.
I don't think he does that.
He just puts science in its place -- that's all.
I get them from the universe around me.
Why? Because you believe it is true?
What genome analysis? How can they swap genes if their progeny are not fertile?
Are you now saying that a kind is a species? Where is your evidence for these claims?
Evidence?
Okay, you want one subject at a time. Considering you are the one changing it all the time.
The flood.
The evidence of the flood is as follows:
Evidence 1: Fossils of sea creatures high above sea level due to the ocean waters having flooded over the continents
We find fossils of sea creatures in rock layers that cover all the continents. For example, most of the rock layers in the walls of Grand Canyon (more than a mile above sea level) contain marine fossils. Fossilized shellfish are even found in the Himalayas.
Evidence 2: Rapid burial of plants and animals
We find extensive fossil “graveyards” and exquisitely preserved fossils. For example, billions of nautiloid fossils are found in a layer within the Redwall Limestone of Grand Canyon. This layer was deposited catastrophically by a massive flow of sediment (mostly lime sand). The chalk and coal beds of Europe and the United States, and the fish, ichthyosaurs, insects, and other fossils all around the world, testify of catastrophic destruction and burial.
Evidence 3: Rapidly deposited sediment layers spread across vast areas
We find rock layers that can be traced all the way across continents—even between continents—and physical features in those strata indicate they were deposited rapidly. For example, the Tapeats Sandstone and Redwall Limestone of Grand Canyon can be traced across the entire United States, up into Canada, and even across the Atlantic Ocean to England. The chalk beds of England (the white cliffs of Dover) can be traced across Europe into the Middle East and are also found in the Midwest of the United States and in Western Australia. Inclined (sloping) layers within the Coconino Sandstone of Grand Canyon are testimony to 10,000 cubic miles of sand being deposited by huge water currents within days.
Evidence 4: Sediment transported long distances
We find that the sediments in those widespread, rapidly deposited rock layers had to be eroded from distant sources and carried long distances by fast-moving water. For example, the sand for the Coconino Sandstone of Grand Canyon (Arizona) had to be eroded and transported from the northern portion of what is now the United States and Canada. Furthermore, water current indicators (such as ripple marks) preserved in rock layers show that for “300 million years” water currents were consistently flowing from northeast to southwest across all of North and South America, which, of course, is only possible over weeks during a global Flood.
Evidence 5: Rapid or no erosion between strata
We find evidence of rapid erosion, or even of no erosion, between rock layers. Flat, knife-edge boundaries between rock layers indicate continuous deposition of one layer after another, with no time for erosion. For example, there is no evidence of any “missing” millions of years (of erosion) in the flat boundary between two well-known layers of Grand Canyon—the Coconino Sandstone and the Hermit Formation. Another impressive example of flat boundaries at Grand Canyon is the Redwall Limestone and the strata beneath it.
That's a few. now refute them
What do you think of atheists who:Nope, if that were the case he would walk the walk, all dad does is to talk the talk. He reminds me of someone else here.
No, the Bible is true, because it's proves itself to be true. It stands on it's own. It does something that no other so called religious book does and does it quite accrual. Prophecies for one, Every prophecy written in the Word of God, has happened, except of course those that are in the future.
People get married all over the place. Churches are handy sites for that. Many churches do not care about the beliefs of people that rent their buildings. If anyone is showing hypocrisy it would be the churches since they are doing it for the money. A church is just a building for atheists.What do you think of atheists who:
- Prefer to get married in a church?
- Enjoy a Christian holiday off work?
- Has a cross put on a loved-one's tombstone?
Teachers are 100% responsible to teach and students are 100% responsible to learn. If the students are not learning then the teacher is 100% responsible for not teaching and the student is 100% responsible for not learning. The teacher does have the responsibility to find different teaching methods to teach their message. What works one day may not work the next. What did not work one day may work on another day. This media is rather limited because you really only deal with one of the five senses. In real life you can find a way to use more of the senses and increase the learning experience. Jesus was the greatest teacher that ever lived so we can follow His example.
What [you] believe is not what is important here. What is important, is [knowing] what and who it is that we are dealing with.I do believe that the problem is with the speaker and not the listener.
And you are of course wrong again. This is not an opinion on my part but a conclusion based upon reading your posts. No matter how many times that you claim that you are not ignorant of science your posts shout much louder that you are.
Don't be silly, of course I have. You believe bedtime stories that are refuted by the simple fact that ice floats. And we don't even know that there is one god. You don't seem to realize that there are many different Christian versions of God. Please try to keep up.
Nope. This is an equivocation error on your part. You are using different definitions of faith and pretending that they are all the same. When I speak of faith I am talking of believing without evidence. That is something that you do that I don't.
I see that you still do not understand simple English. That was a logical conclusion of what you stated. I can quote what you stated and explain how it is a logical conclusion. Stop the dishonest Gishing and I will do so.
Of course it does. You either did not read or did not understand. You don't even know what a population bottleneck is. Again, if you want to go over this in detail start a separate post on this subject. When you keep Gishing I can only give you very light correction. Please don't claim that you understand what a population bottleneck is when you clearly don't.
Wrong, there is no history of them. There is fantasy about them. You need to learn the difference between history and fairy tales.
It would have been a huge problem. If you read about population bottlenecks you would have understood this. Thank you for confirming my earlier conclusion.
Good. Then please quit strawmanning the theory of evolution. You share a common ancestor with other apes. That is why you are still an ape.
Again wrong. The lack of a near extinction population bottleneck shows this. There were never only two human beings. Populations evolve, not individuals.
And yet you cannot name one. There are false charges against your neighbor. Guess what Commandment that violates?
You know that this is not true. I see that you are still afraid to debate properly and honestly even though I have offered to give you the evidence that you ask for if you do so.
You are of course wrong about the "God" part but the fact that there are 40,000 different sects show that among Christians there are 40,000 different versions of God.
And yet you have no evidence to support that claim.
Again, it depends upon what version of God one believes in. I see that you could not honestly answer the question on flat Earth believers. Has there version of God been refuted?
Nope, God does not answer prayers. The few times that this has been tested the claim has been shown to be false. To claim that he answers prayers puts the burden of proof upon you. All you have are anecdotes at best. Worse yet your personal prejudice will give God credit when he does not earn it and you absolve him when he could be blamed for wrongs. You have a very distorted view of the world.
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