AOC - Latinos Are Black!

[Ana the Ist]

No, that comment was more of an aside not really related to her specific point but just putting it out there that there are Latinos who aren’t Hispanic, as is the case with Brazilians, a Latin American country where they mostly don’t speak any Spanish.

Fair enough.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Actually she claimed that some Latinos are black.

Actually, she doesn't claim that...

"A lot of times I’ll hear people say, ‘OK, this is about Black Lives Matter, what about Latinos?’ and I always say, Latinos are black! We are Afro-Latina, and we run an entire racial spectrum,” Ocasio-Cortez replied."

I highlighted the relevant portion. You'll notice nowhere does she say "some".

 

[Ana the Ist]

Okay, since you're being intentionally obtuse:
Are there any people who come from Latin American countries (which would qualify them as "Latino/Latina/Latinx") and are descended - partially or wholly - from black slaves brought over from Africa?

You're aware that not all black people are descended from slaves, right?

Assuming you know this...what does your question have to do with anything?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

"Latinx", please. Do try to keep up, grandpa.

Nah, I’m Latino and no one I know outside of college campuses really uses the term, and even then I hardly ever hear it used in speech and not in text. The “nx” suffix doesn’t really work in spoken Spanish and this weird new desire to de-gender the language would be impossible to implement in any non arbitrary way as the entire language assigns a gender to every person, place or thing.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

You're aware that not all black people are descended from slaves, right?

Fair enough, but it's also irrelevant to the point.

Assuming you know this...what does your question have to do with anything?

Answer it and you'll find out.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Answer it and you'll find out.

Sure.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

She said Latinos are black lol.

Some of them are. I think she was speaking in a more generalized sense. Latinos are black, Latinos are white, Latinos can also have East Asian ancestry and features like you get with Peruvians. Latino doesn’t mean you’re a specific race, it refers to people from Latin America, regardless of their race or ethnicity.

She's a latino, ergo she's claiming she is black.

She very well could be both. They’re not mutually exclusive.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Actually, she doesn't claim that...

"A lot of times I’ll hear people say, ‘OK, this is about Black Lives Matter, what about Latinos?’ and I always say, Latinos are black! We are Afro-Latina, and we run an entire racial spectrum,” Ocasio-Cortez replied."

I highlighted the relevant portion. You'll notice nowhere does she say "some".

Did you miss where she says “we run an entire racial spectrum”? That means she’s saying Latinos can be of any race. Not that we’re all black.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Sure.

@GoldenBoy89 already made the point I was trying to make. No need to repeat it.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Did you miss where she says “we run an entire racial spectrum”? .

Did you miss where she said latinos are black?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Did you miss where she said latinos are black?

Not at all.

It’s absolutely true that many are black. We run an entire racial spectrum and in that spectrum there are Afro-Latinos.

You’d have to ignore this part for what you’re implying to be the only possible interpretation of her comment.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Not at all.

It’s absolutely true that many are black. We run an entire racial spectrum and in that spectrum there are Afro-Latinos.

You’d have to ignore this part for what you’re implying to be the only possible interpretation of her comment.

Exactly. If you really wanted to nitpick, you could say that she could have made her meaning clearer by explicitly stating that "some" or "many" Latinos are black, but in context, it's pretty easy to tell that she did not mean that "all" Latinos are black.

 

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[GoldenBoy89]

(I was just having some fun.)

Ah sorry! It’s just a pet peeve of mine when I see it.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Not at all.

It’s absolutely true that many are black. We run an entire racial spectrum and in that spectrum there are Afro-Latinos.

You’d have to ignore this part for what you’re implying to be the only possible interpretation of her comment.

Frankly, I think one has to ignore the question to not see what she's doing there...

Let's take a look...

What do you think the Latinx community should do to stop racism among them and among other races?

It's clearly a question about racism in the latino community and what the community can do to stop racism in general.

Her response? To equate the latino and black communities and play the victim. Latinos aren't black.

 

[FireDragon76]

You think AOC is black?

According to research by 23andMe, a substantial number of Hispanics have some African ancestry. And I would imagine that would be especially true in Puerto Rico, where AOC's family is from originally.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Latinos aren't black.

Not all of them, no but about 40 million people from Latin America with black, African ancestry would probably disagree with you that they aren’t black or Latino or that it has to be one or the other.