144000 redeemed. Sounds about right.
12000 from each 12 tribes.
What do you get when you multiply
12,000
X 12
= 144,000
Yea.thats about right.
Obviously you were not listening well.
What is really a myth is thinking that only 144,000 of all Israel are literally going to be saved, or that the number 144,000 is
symbolic (
a spiritual number) but that they are still tribes from the nation of Israel literally. That's like attempting to have your cake and eat it too. As always, one of the best rules to a sound Hermeneutic is that "
inconsistency is the hallmark of error."
Moreover:
Revelation 7:9
- "After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;"
Revelation 14:1-5 KJV
[1] And I looked, and, lo,
a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and
with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.
[2] And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:
[3] And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand,
which were redeemed from the earth.
[4] These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth.
These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
[5] And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.
Your reasoning would mean that of the nation of Israel only literally 144,000 are saved, but of the
Gentiles were saved a great multitude that no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues.
Considering your Dispensational doctrine of the Nation of Israel being the center of salvation, how is that possible, coherent, consistent, logical or harmonious with the rest of your teachings. Again, one of the best rules to a sound system of interpretation is that "
inconsistency is the hallmark of error."
And I see that you have avoided the question about 144 in Revelation 21. Read carefully:
Revelation 21:12-17 KJV
[12] And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and
at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the
names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:
[13] On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.
[14] And the
wall of the city had twelve foundations, and
in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
[15] And he that talked
with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and
the gates thereof, and
the wall thereof.
[16] And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and
he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.
[17] And
he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.