Let me deal with these two statements ...
They are true!
But here is the question I have for you ...
Have either of these two men do anything on the list they spoke of?
You're missing the point!
Is he telling his people; go sin all you want? No!
He is telling them that God has there salvation secure, stop worrying about your own salvation if you're a believer, and start telling others about your great God.
I remember years ago, (mid 80's) Jimmy Swaggart stood behind the pulpit (preaching as you do) that he wouldn't give a nickel for a church that had sinners in it.
About a month later, he was caught with a prostitute. He then made his famous confession and prayer at the pulpit.
In 1991 that same Jimmy Swaggart was caught once again with a prostitute. This time there was no repentance, yet he continued to preach.
The difference is, he was a complete hypocrite.
Then we have Jim Bakker ...
"A cover-up of
hush money paid to a church secretary,
Jessica Hahn, for an alleged rape led to his resignation from the ministry. Subsequent revelations of
accounting fraud brought about his conviction,
imprisonment and
divorce. Bakker later remarried and returned to televangelism, where he founded his new ministry Morningside Church in
Blue Eye, Missouri and currently hosts
The Jim Bakker Show, which focuses on the
end of days and
return of Christ."
Jim Bakker - Wikipedia
I don't care what the denomination, we all have those that to wickedness.
Nevertheless, that doesn't change the truth of Scripture. Not a single Scripture reference refers to "temporary salvation". If we can lose our salvation, that is all we have.