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Cities Church Pastor Releases Statement Following St. Paul’s Decision Not To Charge Anti-ICE Protesters

The city of St. Paul, Minnesota, will not press charges against anti-ICE protesters who disrupted a worship service at Cities Church after the city determined that the protest was peaceful.

On Jan. 18, a group of anti-ICE protesters disrupted a worship service at Cities Church, a church plant in St. Paul supported by the Southern Baptist Convention’s (SBC) Send Network. Videos of the incident show protesters chanting and screaming in the faces of church members as congregants attempted to worship.

Following the incident, Cities Church Lead Pastor Jonathan Parnell told Fox News that “several folks at that moment actually scattered, fearful it was a shooter situation. Children were obviously terrorized. Mothers were terrorized.”

Pam Bondi, who was recently removed from her position as U.S. attorney general by President Donald Trump, led the arrests of 39 people involved in the protests, including independent journalist and former CNN anchor Don Lemon.


Earlier this week, St. Paul City Attorney Irene Kao described videos captured during the protest as peaceful and said nothing unlawful occurred.

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After discharge petition, House passes (226-195) Ukraine aid, Russia sanctions package over House GOP leadership opposition

The House passed a measure to provide almost $2 billion in aid to Ukraine and impose new sanctions against Russia Thursday, sending the measure to the Senate behind a 226-to-195 tally -- despite GOP leadership in full opposition to the measure.

Eighteen Republicans voted in favor of the bill -- creating a bipartisan majority -- although Democrats carried most of the water on the vote.

"Today’s bipartisan vote sends a strong message to Ukraine that we support them and a clear message to Putin that we stand against Russian tyranny,” Republican Rep. Michael McCaul said in a statement after the vote.

A vote on the package was forced after a discharge petition amassed 218 signatures, the threshold of support required for lawmakers to circumvent the majority leadership's will and force a floor vote.

Trump endorses Ken Paxton in Texas runoff for US Senate: 'Loyalty to the cause of greatness'

Rather ironic that Trump endorses Paxton, a man who was impeached by his fellow Republicans for bribery and corruption. Then there is this:


Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton is under fire for a plea deal his prosecutors offered last month to a Waco man charged with repeatedly sexually abusing a young boy.​
The deal in the case, which Paxton’s office took over about three years ago after the locally elected district attorney recused himself, would have let the man plead guilty to two misdemeanors and serve a total of just one day in jail.​
Now Paxton, locked in a heated primary to be the Republican nominee for U.S. Senate, is facing criticism from political opponents who say his office was too lenient toward the man, who admitted that he molested the victim as part of the deal. This comes even as Paxton has built a reputation attacking local district attorneys for being too soft on crime.......​
As part of the indecent assault plea, Hoffman agreed to make a statement that he “did then and there, with the intent to arouse or gratify my sexual desire, touch genitals of [the victim, identified by initials] … and I acted without the complainant’s consent.”.....​
But Sparkman’s final decision wouldn’t come until a formal sentencing hearing the following week.​

“This isn’t justice”​

Judge Sparkman was not happy.
Molest a child repeatedly and get one day in jail.
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The Truth Behind Angels Landing, America’s Deadliest Hike

SPRINGDALE, Utah — Towering 1,500 feet over the floor of Zion National Park, Angels Landing is one of the most recognizable rock formation in the American West. Famous for its steep grades, sheer cliffs and razor thin paths, it draws hundreds of thousands of thrill-seeking hikers each year. Yet, long before it became an internet sensation and arguably the “deadliest hike” in America’s National Park system, it was a summit deemed entirely unreachable by humans.

The trail enjoyed by modern hikers is the result of a century old historical gamble, a wandering Methodist minister, and a pioneering engineer who believed regular people deserved access to the heavens no matter the risk.

A Minister’s Vision and the Birth of a Holy Metaphor​

For thousands of years, the towering vertical walls of Zion Canyon were known as Mukuntuweap—a Southern Paiute word meaning “straight canyon.” It was under this moniker that President William Howard Taft first designated the area as a federally protected National Monument in 1909. However, fearing that American tourists would struggle to pronounce the Indigenous name, the National Park Service officially rebranded the sanctuary as Zion in 1918.

Two years before that name change, a 50-year-old traveling motivational speaker and Methodist minister from Ohio named Frederick Vining Fisher stepped off a stagecoach into the region. Seeking pristine landscapes to anchor his popular illustrated travel lectures, Fisher spent two weeks exploring the canyon floor in October 1916 alongside two local Mormon teenagers who served as his guides.

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Church attack with graffiti, mob. Voodooist opposition. Police question Church activities.

  • Church Targeted with Islamic Graffiti, Mob Attack

    [14] prayers in [4] nations have been posted for Pakistani Christians.
    Christians continue to attend the church despite the recent attack.
    A mob attacked a church after claiming a deacon had blasphemed Islam. The deacon discovered "Muhammad," the name of Islam's founder, painted on an alleyway in front of a church. He cleaned it up before anyone could walk on it and accuse the church of blasphemy. Regardless, someone rallied a mob to attack the church and the deacon, saying he had no right to touch the word as he wasn't Muslim. Read More.
  • Jun. 04, 2026 | Benin​

    Constantly Opposed by Voodooist Family

    [11] prayers in [3] nations have been posted for Marie and Rosaline.
    Voodoo parades during which practitioners may curse people are common in Benin.
    Two young Christians persist in their faith despite opposition from their family. Marie, 18, and Rosaline, 17, are cousins in a voodooist family. The girls had never heard the gospel until a Christian woman who sold soap started coming to their home, and they placed their trust in Christ and started attending church. This angered their family, who rejected them and started cursing them in the middle of the night. Read More.
  • Jun. 04, 2026 | Morocco​

    Police Question Church Activities

    [11] prayers in [3] nations have been posted for Moroccan Christians.
    Nearly all Moroccans are Muslim.
    A pastor in Morocco is asking for prayer that local Christians in house churches will be bolder in their witness for Christ and have favor with police and other local officials. Morocco is 99.9% Muslim, and only a few churches exist for Moroccans. Those churches are mostly small, often meet secretly in homes and are composed almost entirely of members who have converted from Islam to Christianity. Read More.
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Trump’s Chief Nevada Prosecutor Shirks DOJ Orders to Recuse, Launches Investigations to help personal Allies

President Donald Trump’s top Nevada prosecutor, Sigal Chattah, pushed to launch investigations at the behest of former clients and friends while repeatedly bypassing Justice Department orders recusing her from cases, according to three people with direct knowledge.

Chattah, a former Republican party official who took over the US attorney’s office in Nevada 14 months ago, also opened a probe targeting her past political foe, the three individuals said. It is one of many circumstances in which she’s leveraged her role to advance personal interests.

The first-time prosecutor frequently sought status updates on cases despite warnings that she was disregarding recusals signed by the deputy attorney general’s office in Washington that barred her involvement in matters where she had conflicts of interest, said several individuals.

“It’s charitable to call it chaos,” said Rick Pocker, who was Nevada US attorney under President George H. W. Bush, about Chattah’s leadership. “I don’t think she quite understands how you’re not supposed to use that office for personal or political purposes.”

Chattah is one of several Trump-aligned top federal prosecutors whose appointment as acting US attorney was deemed invalid by a judge, leaving her future in doubt. She remains in charge while the court order disqualifying her is pending appeal.

Previously in Chattah news

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Marriage to Christ

Romans 6:1-6,12,16 NKJV

“What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? 2Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it? 3Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? 4Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
“For if we have been united together in the likeness of His death, certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His resurrection, 6knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin… 12Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body, that you should obey it in its lusts… 16Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one’s slaves whom you obey, whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience leading to righteousness?”

The Wedding Ceremony

Imagine with me for a moment that you have just gotten married to your spouse. This is the moment you had been waiting for, and now you did it. You said your vows, and you signed the contract, and now you are husband and wife, a married couple. But then imagine with me that soon after you decide to take a vacation from your spouse, to go away somewhere else where they cannot see you or what you are up to, where they are not included, and which opens the door wide for you to find someone else.

This is how many people who profess faith in Jesus Christ treat the Lord, who is their spiritual husband (whether they are male or female), for they committed themselves to be his bride. The big difference is that he can and does see what we are doing in secret when no one else is looking. So he does know what we are up to. But they think that just because they prayed the prayer and said the words that they now have what they want, but that they are still free to live however they want, to go where they want to go.

Death to Old Life

But that is not how it works. That is not what a marriage should look like, and it is definitely not what a marriage relationship with Jesus Christ should look like. For God’s grace to us is not carte blanche (absolute freedom) to live however we want now that our sins are forgiven and we believe that heaven is guaranteed us. God’s grace, which is bringing us salvation, is training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives now and forever (Titus 2:11-14).

So, we are not free to continue in sin. For by faith in Jesus Christ we die to sin that we might no longer live under its control. And this does not mean that we will never sin again (1 John 2:1-2), but that sin should no longer have dominion over us to where it is what we obey, in practice, instead of us obeying our Lord. For by faith in Jesus our former self is put to death with Christ that the body of sin might be done away with, so that we should no longer be slaves to sin but now servants of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Baptism Into Death

Now, with regard to the verses here speaking of us being baptized into Christ, thus being baptized into Christ’s death, this is clearly speaking of a spiritual baptism which may or may not include water baptism. For in the Scriptures there were people who believed, then were baptized, and those who received the Holy Spirit upon belief, and then were baptized in water. And many people get baptized in water who never, in truth, give their lives over to the Lord Jesus Christ to belong to him and to obey him forever.

But our water baptism serves as an outward sign of an inward faith, if truly we have believed in Jesus with biblical faith which saves. And if we are baptized by dunking in the water, it symbolizes our faith. For biblical faith involves us dying with Christ to sin and being raised with Christ to walk in newness of life in him, no longer to live as slaves to sin, but now as servants of righteousness in walks of obedience to our Lord in holy living for the glory of God. And all of this is of God, and not of the flesh, for it to be genuine.

Slaves to What?

And this is what it all comes down to. Are you, in truth, a slave to sin? Or are you a slave to God and to obedience to his commands? You cannot be both at the same time. As followers of Jesus Christ we are no longer to let sin reign (rule) in our mortal bodies, to where we still obey its lusts, in practice. For, if we present ourselves, by our actions, as slaves to sin, that leads to death (eternal separation from God). But if obedience to our Lord is what we obey, in practice, it leads to sanctification and eternal life with God.

For Jesus Christ taught that to come to him we must deny self, take up our cross daily (die daily to sin), and follow (obey) him. For if we hold on to living in sin and for self, we will lose our lives for eternity. But if we deny self, die daily to sin, by the Spirit, and we walk in obedience to our Lord and to his commands, in his power, then we have eternal life with God. For not everyone who calls him “Lord” will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one DOING (obeying) the will of God (see Luke 9:23-26; Matthew 7:21-23).

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 1:18-32; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 3:23; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; Romans 12:1-2; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10,19-20; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; 2 Corinthians 5:10,15,21; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-13; Hebrews 10:19-39; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:1-6; 1 John 3:4-10; Revelation 2:1-29; Revelation 3:1-22]

As the Deer

By Martin J. Nystrom
Based off Psalm 42:1


As the deer panteth for the water
So my soul longeth after You
You alone are my heart's desire
And I long to worship You

You alone are my strength, my shield
To You alone may my spirit yield
You alone are my heart's desire
And I long to worship You

Marriage to Christ
An Original Work / June 4, 2026
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love
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How Can God Become Man if God Can’t Change?

One of the defining attributes of God is that He is immutable, meaning He isn’t subject to change.

We know this through philosophical reasoning because at the foundation of reality there has to be one being who is purely actual without any potency, and we call this being God.

We also know about God’s immutability through the witness of Sacred Scripture:

For I the LORD do not change; therefore you, O sons of Jacob, are not consumed. (Mal 3:6)
Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and for ever. (Heb 13:8)
Every good endowment and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change. (Jas 1:17)


The doctrine of divine immutability is further affirmed in the Church’s liturgical life, such as in the great Hymn of the Incarnation chanted after the Second Antiphon in the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom:

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Wayne LaPierre resigns as NRA head


National Rifle Association (NRA) head Wayne LaPierre will resign from the organization at the end of the month, the group announced Friday.

LaPierre’s resignation, first reported by Fox News, comes as the organization defends itself in a New York civil suit alleging he and other executives spent millions of the group’s funds on luxury vacations and other perks.



He's citing health concerns as his reason for stepping down, but part of me suspects that he's looking for an escape hatch as the organization is in some legal trouble, and more and more people have realized that they're getting fleeced by the organization.

They're an organization that's basically outlived any usefulness they may have had decades ago, and when you look at their revenue vs. other much smaller gun rights organizations, and consider the fact that those aforementioned smaller organizations have been the ones to win all of the high profile court cases (which NRA has then tried to piggy back off of and claim the victory as their own), I think it started to become obvious to people that they were paying $500 for a duffel bag and a ballcap.
Will object to “legal troubles” and “fleecing” on the grounds such organizations have a lot of leeway. Note who advertises on the “senior” channels, then look into how much the actually spend on their stated cause. All 100% legal. Note that when various perks to LaPierre came to light, the NRA didn’t deny it, only stated that they had done nothing legally wrong. So it came down to how many annual members wanted their dues to go to buying LaPierre another suit vs supporting the 2nd Amendment and firearm education. Now LaPierre is finally gone, but I doubt the perks left with him.
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When did the anti-Israel stance start from the right?

Anti-Israel tactics doesn't start from the left or right it starts with Satan and his dark forces, or did we not read that our battle is not with flesh and blood but the powers principalities and dark spiritual forces of this world? It is for this reason we try to get people to turn to Jesus Christ TODAY, and seek His voice. Today is the day we need to listen to Him, and the day we are to encourage each other to do the same.

Heb 3:13 But encourage one another day after day, as long as it is still called “Today,” so that none of you will be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin.

The simple reason that so many Christians are not against Israel is because God is for them and we are grafted into the Jewish root (Jesus Christ) ourselves. But if any Christian or any other people in the flesh is against them, it's almost surely because of the powers and dark spiritual forces of this world. And if anyone is for Israel it is almost surely because of the influence of God in their life, even if they don't understand it yet.
I congratulate you to such a firm worldview. I bet you sleep like a baby at night.
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One Reason Why I Cannot Be A Progressive Catholic: Beauty

One of my favorite works of art—whether visual, musical, or otherwise—is Mozart’s Requiem. Its beauty reflects something far beyond the mundane, lifting the listener toward unimaginable spiritual heights. When I listen to it, I often experience a mixture of awe and sadness: awe at the God-given genius required to compose such a masterpiece, and sadness for its composer, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, whose personal life seems to have lacked the deep piety one might expect from someone used by God in so extraordinary a way.

The awe I experience before works such as the Requiem stands in stark contrast to what I feel when confronted with religious art, architecture, and music shaped by the horizontal vision of progressive Christianity. This vision often reduces Christianity to service of others—especially the poor—and treats that service as the center of the Gospel rather than the fruit of something greater: the worship of God and the salvation of souls.

We can see this emphasis in much contemporary sacred music, particularly the work of Dan Schutte, including Table of Plenty. We can also see it in the church architecture that emerged during the 1970s and 1980s. Both reflect a broader shift in focus—from God to man, from transcendence to utility, and from worship to community. That shift helps explain why I cannot be a progressive Catholic.

The Horizontal Turn


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There’s a reason we don’t have birds the size of elephants

This article was originally featured on The Conversation.

Exactly how did birds evolve from dinosaurs? It’s a mystery that has been with us for more than 150 years, and palaeontologists are still hunting for pieces of the puzzle today.

Among them is the University of Edinburgh’s Professor Steve Brusatte, whose latest book, The Story of Birds, tells the whole fascinating story. We caught up with him recently to find out more.


Of all the great dinosaur subjects, why this story?​

I’ve always been fascinated by birds. They are all around us and there’s such a stunning diversity and variety. As a palaeontologist I specialised early in the theropod (two-legged) dinosaurs. This is the group that includes T.rex and Velociraptor – and gave rise to birds.

The more I studied theropods, the more I became more curious about the modern-day animals that descended from them. Back in the early 2010s my PhD was about the origin of birds. Its core involved building a big new family tree of theropod dinosaurs to understand where birds slot in, how they evolved from dinosaurs, and how their body features came together.

I wrote about the dinosaur bird connection in my first book, The Rise and Fall of the Dinosaurs (2018), but that was just one chapter. It made me think it would be really fun to do an entire book on the subject. That was how my new book, The Story of Birds, came together.

Is there still any debate about birds evolving from dinosaurs?​


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Question,

endocrine system functions, do you know much about them?

without a perfectly balanced hormone system, life is not possible, in humans and animals and birds - life

for this complex system to evolve is mathematically not possible, if every system is not within balance, operating perfectly-- you die, or get sick and die.

and then there is another system that regulates the endocrine system, I can not remember how to spell it, and few doctors are even aware.

Man, Adam, was made on day 6, complete and perfect -- he lived 1000 years.

Has this changed your mind --- I doubt it.
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The Architecture of Grace

very well done!
I agree, everything God has planned will take place to the exact second, minute, hour, day etc

Our Passover, Jesus Christ, bled out at our 3 PM which is the time the Afternoon Daily Sacrifice is offered followed by the slaying of the Passover lamb on the 14th of the first month at mid afternoon.

then on the day following the Sabbath, He rose to the Father to have HIS death accepted as payment for the sins of all mankind, but when?
At our 9 AM, when the morning Daily Sacrifice is offered. And the Sacrifice was accepted.

Every major event in the Life of Christ and minor as well, occurred on a day made Holy for that event, to the split second on the exact day
Proof of Who is in charge! WHO IS GOD. The Father does not wait for events to come together, they are all planned before creation began.
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1 Corinthians 12:13. Is This The Baptism Of The Holy Spirit?

Thanks for sharing. I agree except we do not get " impregnated " we get regenerated. He makes His Home in us.
Be blessed.

35 And the angel answered and said unto her,

The Holy Spirit shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee:
therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

The Father "became The Father" of Christ by impregnating Mary by, HIS, Holy Spirit.

The spiritual can and should be understood by the physical.

For a birth, a seed must be implanted

The Father's seed is His Spirit, 24 God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship [him] in spirit and in truth.

We are called the Sons of God!! why ? the Father, not Christ, impregnates us with HIS ONE SPIRIT, thus is our FATHER

We then become a spiritual fetus waiting to be BORN, not made - no longer made, from above in to Spirit

Philippians 3
21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body,
according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

If the Holy Spirit was not the seed, then is it the father? The Holy Spirit shall come upon thee,

For my mind to understand, I must understand all scripture logically and all scripture, related, must be assembled before understanding can come.

Our Father is not our father just because He says He is, we will be of HIS SEED exactly as Christ is of that ONE Spirit. that raised Him for death.
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Not Just Another Martyr

St. Charles Lwanga and his companions stand out in the Church’s history of martyrs due to the unique and specific reason for their sacrifice. Unlike others, their martyrdom was not merely for general chastity but for resisting a particular demand placed upon them. This distinction is especially relevant in June, observed as the month for celebrating the very behavior they opposed.

Modernism’s Effect on the Eucharistic Prayer

What then is the longest prayer at Mass? The Eucharistic Prayer. Since 1970 a priest can use four options: Eucharistic Prayer I, II, III, or IV. Before 1970, for about 1,500 years, there was just one long prayer, which became known as the Canon, meaning “fixed rule,” as in permanent, never-changing, like the truth. The prayer was ancient, arguably the oldest and most important part, the essential part of Mass.

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Eucharistic Adoration: A Neglected Spiritual Weapon

Speaking of the Eucharist as a spiritual weapon might strike you as odd, yet St. Paul reminds us we’re in a war, and that our primary enemies are ones we cannot see:

For we are not contending against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world rulers of this present darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places (Eph. 6:12).

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