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Passengers from hantavirus-hit cruise ship being monitored at US medical units

CDC and Florida at odds over hantavirus cruise ship passenger’s quarantine

One of the 18 passengers from the cruise ship MV Hondius says she feels like she’s being “held hostage” and just wants to go home.

Florida health officials are pushing back at quarantine guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for passengers from the cruise ship MV Hondius exposed to the deadly Andes hantavirus.

“I’m being held hostage in this power struggle between a state and the federal government,” said Angela Perryman, 47, who has been at the University of Nebraska Medical Center’s National Quarantine Unit since May 11.

Perryman said that health officials previously told passengers that they would be able to leave federal quarantine by the end of May and spend the rest of their 42-day quarantine under home supervision. The first five went home June 1.

States were required by the CDC to station law enforcement or public health employees outside the homes of quarantined passengers for surveillance.

Florida health officials, it appears, have a different approach.

“At this time, neither the state of Florida nor the Department is planning to implement round-the-clock surveillance measures,” Brian Wright, a spokesman for the Florida Health Department, said in an email.
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Pride Month 2026

Yes, they love to throw the words bigot, hater or phobia around, as if that makes them right on the issue, lol.

Yes, in the last 15+ yrs it's gained too much ground and thus in their eyes makes it all just as normal as anything else.
It's not.
I think one reason it's gained so much ground is that it gets mixed up with the idea that some people have bullied LGBTQ people. I certainly have never approved of that. I remember when I was in school, there was a lot of talk about "beating up" gay people and whatnot, and I was always like why don't you just leave them alone? The funny thing is, it turned out that the people who bullied the gay people the most, actually turned out to be homosexuals themselves. Maybe they were targeting a part of themselves they hated or something, I don't know. Of course bullying is wrong, and no one should be bullied. But that doesn't mean these lifestyles should be pushed onto the culture, and especially not the children.

The other reason is that some pander to "victim groups" because they see political advantage in it.
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Boston University history department advertises DEI commitment, hosts classes on ‘White Supremacist Thought’ and ‘Black Power’

I'm getting that in another thread right now as we speak because
-I dared to suggest that diet & exercise are preferable to a bunch of people rushing to get on GLP-1s
-Suggested that direct-to-consumer marketed telehealth services
- and linked a WHO report that suggested antibiotics are overprescribed as a means of demonstrating that "no, not all doctors use due diligence when handing out prescriptions"

Things that shouldn't be controversial at all

Took all of the two posts before the "you're not a doctor" and "you're just a guy who found links on the internet" crap started up.

eh... That's not really all you're communicating in that thread.


Having read through that thread already, it's only the first one of those that prompted the "you're not a doctor" statements - and that's a reasonable criticism of anyone dispensing medical advice on the internet. Everything else was people simply disagreeing with you or disagreeing with your interpretation of the links you posted. You have a tendency to speak authoritatively, even when simply voicing your opinion, and of treating your own opinions as factual, and that colors people's responses. Again, there's an objective difference between stating "I think [X]" and "[X] is the truth." I (think I) understand the point you were trying to make, but making your argument as an absolute is always going to set people off.
Also, the one person in that thread who's making the credentialism argument is obviously touchy from having already gone through some of this gatekeeping to get something for a legitimate need that others refused to acknowledge.
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The Democratic Safe House

During his 2016 campaign, a YouTube video circulated showing Trump at a WWF event, taking on the owner of WWF, bringing him down and shaving his head in the center of the ring.
It was perhaps the 150th indication of his complete unsuitability to be president--at this point the indications have reached well into the thousands.
Might he try to take on an MMA fighter? Might his staged victory wind up giving him a heart attack or stroke?
Who am I, an ordinary citizen, to try and stop him, even if I were so inclined?
And that's a big if.
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NASA Website Lets You See Your Name Spelled Out by Landsat Satellites...

Your Name in Landsat​

With this online interactive, users can type in their name then view and export the graphic of that name spelled out in Earth features found in Landsat images.

The Catholic Conversion of the Real “Mrs. Robinson”

What if I told you there was a real “Mrs. Robinson” — someone who once met two musicians, and before she knew it, they were singing about her by name. I know her story well, because the real Mrs. Robinson was my mom.

The Early Years

“Jesus loves me, this I know, for the Bible tells me so….” These are the first words I remember hearing from my mother. She was rocking me in the old Victorian rocking chair her mother had used for her. My first memory is centered around my mom and Jesus.

She was born Barbara Balday in 1932 at home in New York City, a sickly child who was not expected to live. Her mother had delivered four live daughters and ten stillborn sons before her. When the oldest daughter, my aunt, helped Mom enter the world, she balked at having to wash the new baby. “Oh Mother, do I have to?” she asked, “It’s only going to be dead.”

No one called her by her real name until she went to school. She was always “Tootsie” in those early years. Her role models were Jesus and Shirley Temple.

Mom’s father was 56 years old when she was born. His father was a brigadier general in the Civil War. He was a Union General who helped black soldiers put an end to the misery of slavery. My great-grandfather moved his family to New Orleans after the war, when federal troops worked to protect the voting rights of black Americans in the South.

Mom’s maternal great-grandfather also worked toward the cause of abolition. Reverend James Junius Marks was the Presbyterian pastor of a church in Quincy, Illinois. He knew Abe Lincoln and visited him in the White House. Marks volunteered as a chaplain for the Union Army, and he shared the imprisonment of the troops he served. He traveled to the Holy Land and gave lectures on what he saw where Jesus walked.

When the general’s son, my grandfather, moved back North, he met his wife in a coffee shop in Pittsburgh. She had left her family’s farm to explore city life. My grandfather said he “always admired the way Jewish people were devoted to the education of their children,” so he moved his family to New York City.

Their church had a Sunday school and a choir. The children sang In The Garden and other Christian colloquial hymns. Like some churches, it also met on Wednesday evenings. But unlike others, these meetings were known as “message services,” in which a medium would claim to “channel” the spirit of someone who had died. As it turns out, my mom was raised in a Spiritualist church.

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THE NEW BIBLES REMOVE LORD

Yet again you say, "The new Bibles" when you mean "Some new Bibles." Here is Luke 22:31 in several English translations that are newer than the KJV:

NKJV
(Luk 22:31) And the Lord said, "Simon, Simon! Indeed, Satan has asked for you, that he may sift you as wheat.

WEB
(Luk 22:31) The Lord said, “Simon, Simon, behold, Satan asked to have all of you, that he might sift you as wheat,

YLT
(Luk 22:31) And the Lord said, 'Simon, Simon, lo, the Adversary did ask you for himself to sift as the wheat,

CEV
(Luk 22:31) Jesus said, "Simon, listen to me! Satan has demanded the right to test each one of you, as a farmer does when he separates wheat from the husks.

Those translations which do not mention "the Lord" or "Jesus" in verse 31 do have that verse as a continuation of Jesus speaking to His disciples as He was in verses 24-25, which in the ESV say:


(Luk 22:24) A dispute also arose among them, as to which of them was to be regarded as the greatest.
(Luk 22:25) And he said to them, “The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them, and those in authority over them are called benefactors.

It is just plain wrong to say that the new Bibles remove "Lord."
He couldn’t promote his KJV-onlyism if he had to admit things like that.
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First Communion

By the way @Deegie I’ve met a number of Catholics and former Catholics and some former Anglicans who did not enjoy the experience of confirmation, specifically, they resented having to memorize the creeds and the Catechism and having to essentially experience a pop quiz on these subjects from the Bishop. From a Western liturgical standpoint, what are your thoughts on doing confirmation in such a way so that the youths enjoy it? Or do you think it should not be done in the traditional Western episcopal visitation format?
There's an old joke in these parts that goes:

How do you get rid of the geese all over the church lawn [or the mice in the basement or bats in the belfry or some other animal problem]? Confirm them. You'll never see them again.

The way we do confirmation is problematic in a lot of ways, beyond just the theological. The sort of didactic approach you mentioned gives the impression that it's a reward for knowledge gained, sort of like a school diploma. It very often leaves out the other (and some would say more important) elements of Christianity, such as the affective, the communal, the spiritual, and the missional aspects. If we are talking about teenagers, then honestly the most important part in my mind is impressing upon them that they are now making this decision for themselves. They are taking on the promises made by their parents and godparents. In that way, it becomes a rite of passage from childish to adult membership in the community. They decide if they want to be part of the church rather than having their parents drag them to church. On the first day of confirmation class, I tell them that it's a process of learning, exploration, and relationship-building, and that if they decide at the end not to be confirmed, that's totally fine. They seem to appreciate that. Along the way, we definitely make it fun for them. I don't use lecture-based confirmation curricula with youth.

However, there is definitely value in memorizing (or at least becoming very familiar with) things like the creeds, Lord's Prayer, etc. There is also long historic precedent for it in the traditio and redditio. I've never experienced the bishop quizzing them, however. Throughout my ministry, the the bishop has always taken my word for the fact that the candidates have been properly prepared and that was it.

Ultimately, I would actually retain episcopal confirmation but would prefer more clear communication in the service about what that sacrament actually does. It doesn't impart the Holy Spirit (so bishops, please stop chrismating at confirmation) and it doesn't make you a member of the church (baptism did that). It is, however, a mature affirmation made in front of the bishop who represents the Church universal. For those baptized as adults, however, I think the Roman Catholics have it right. A longer catechumenate and then presbyteral confirmation at their baptism in their own community. Confirmation loses what little theological coherence it has left with those baptized as adults.
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Can real saints in heaven go back to earth?

Yes but I do not believe in "once saved always saved". Sanctification is a process.
Hello again Headphones, those who hold to OSAS believe that they are being sanctified (made to be more and more like Jesus, that is) throughout their lives here, and the very same thing is typically true for those who oppose OSAS. So, I don't believe that OSAS has any bearing on this topic, no matter which side of the OSAS fence you find yourself on.

You know, there are a number of things in God's economy like that (IOW, something that is already accomplished and yet, something that is still in process too), including things like adoption and salvation, along with sanctification. I believe the concept or doctrine is called something like "Already/Not Yet", and a "for instance" might go something like this, that "we (Christians) are saved (justification), we are being saved (sanctification) and we will be saved (glorification)", and all three are true Biblically.

God bless you!!

--David
p.s. - these two links should prove to be both interesting and useful to you (and both address the Biblical concept of already/not yet, to one degree of another (and both are quite short, about 5 minutes each or so) :oldthumbsup: Enjoy :)

~Sanctification (this one can be listened to and/or read)​
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Tennessee exorcist floats idea of 'cursed' Spielberg alien film, questions DC exorcist's removal

Father Dan Reehil, a Roman Catholic priest and exorcist with the Diocese of Nashville, floated the concept of formally cursed movies amid reports earlier this week that Steven Spielberg claimed his new alien film "Disclosure Day" may shake the faith of Christians.

"[Spielberg] said something very odd. He said that this film will shake the faith of many people or have people re-question their belief in God and their religion," Reehil, who pastors St. Catherine of Siena Catholic Church in Columbia, Tennessee, said in a Wednesday video on his YouTube channel.

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If You Think You're Standing

1 Corinthians 10:1-11 NKJV

1Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea, 2all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, 3all ate the same spiritual food, 4and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ. 5But with most of them God was not well pleased, for their bodies were scattered in the wilderness.
6Now these things became our examples, to the intent that we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted. 7And do not become idolaters as were some of them. As it is written, “The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.” 8Nor let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them did, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell; 9nor let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed by serpents; 10nor complain, as some of them also complained, and were destroyed by the destroyer. 11Now all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come.

For Our Instruction

A lot of people have this idea that they can make a profession of faith in Jesus Christ and now all their sins are forgiven, and heaven is guaranteed them for when they die, or for when Jesus returns for his faithful bride – end of the story. But that is not what the Scriptures teach us, which we will learn if we study them in their correct biblical context. And God gave us this example of what happened to so many of his people in the wilderness as examples to us so that we won’t do as they did, with the same results.

With most of them God was not well pleased, and as a result their bodies were scattered in the wilderness. Why? Because the majority of them lusted after (craved, desired) evil things. Some of them became idolaters, revelers, and drunkards. Others were those who made a practice of sexual immorality. Some put Christ to the test, to try his patience, to see how much he would endure of their wickedness. And others complained against the Lord and his messenger Moses. All of them died and did not enter God’s eternal rest.

And all of these things took place as examples to us, and they were written down for our instruction to keep us from craving evil things as they did, so that we will not suffer the same consequences of eternal separation from God (see also Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-13). For, according to the Scriptures, faith in Jesus Christ must result in us dying to sin and obeying our Lord’s commands. And disobedience to God, in practice, is regarded by God as unbelief, regardless of what faith we profess with our lips.

So Many are Ignoring This

Why are so many professing Christians today ignoring this and feeling like this does not apply to them? Well, for one, we live in a day and age when lies and liars abound pretty much everywhere you look. They are preachers and teachers of the Scriptures. And they are heads of governments of nations. And they are the news media and social media and AI videos which are made to look real, but they are not real. So much is being faked, and so many people are following after the lies while they are ignoring the truth.

Why? Because the lies make them feel good. The lies tell them they are okay, and that God does not judge them, and that heaven is secured them regardless of the fact that so many of them are living just like the majority of the Israelites did who wandered in the wilderness for 40 years. The lies tell them that a profession of faith in Jesus means that they are now “in Christ” and so their “identity” is in Christ, and so his grace covers all their sins, and so their sins no longer matter to God. But that is a big fat lie!

Does God’s grace promise us forgiveness of all sins? Yes, if we deny self, die to sin, and follow our Lord in obedience to his commands, as a matter of life practice, although not necessarily in absolute perfection. But God’s grace, which is bringing us salvation, is training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives while we await our Lord’s return (see Titus 2:11-14). So, if we disobey God, and if we continue in deliberate and habitual sin, in practice, we don’t know God.

1 Corinthians 10:12-13 NKJV

“12Therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall. 13No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it.”

So Many Excuses

I have heard so many excuses from people living in sexual idolatry and adultery and immorality for why they cannot get victory over their deliberate and habitual sin. But there is no excuse! Pride is standing in the way of many of them gaining victory over sin, for they get over confident, thinking either that they can conquer this all on their own, and/or that they have already defeated it, and so it is no longer an issue. Or pride keeps them from admitting that they continue to fail, and so they try to cover it up.

And since they take a “my do it” approach to conquering their addiction to sin, and so they get over confident, then they go right back to the same old routines. They fall right back into the same old traps. And they keep returning to their vomit. And then sometimes they will make up excuses for why they cannot get victory over their sin. Or they will take the broad road approach that tells them that since they “prayed the prayer” that their sins no longer matter to God, and so heaven is still their eternal destiny.

But the Scriptures teach us that God has made the way through Jesus’ death on that cross, and through his resurrection from the dead, that we can be delivered out of our slavery (addiction) to sin if we will just surrender our lives to the Lord Jesus, die with him to sin, and now follow him in obedience to his commands – all in his power and strength, and not in our own strength. A “my do it” approach will not work. For that is the flesh trying to conquer flesh. We have to let go and let God, and do what he says to do.

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 1:18-32; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 3:23; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; Romans 12:1-2; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10,19-20; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; 2 Corinthians 5:10,15,21; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-13; Hebrews 10:19-39; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:1-6; 1 John 3:4-10; Revelation 2:1-29; Revelation 3:1-22]

A People Divided

An Original Work / July 4, 2011
Christ’s Free Servant / Sue J Love


Flick’ring torches; hatred; violence;
Crashing windows; guns of men;
We are a people divided
By our love of pow’r and fame.

Idols marching; they’re in chorus;
Their goal to destroy the church,
Tempting us to follow them in
Pure devotion; them we search.

Leave your idols. Follow your God.
Make Him your Lord God and King.
Be a living witness for Him,
And your off’rings to Him bring.

Repent of your sins and worship Him.
A living sacrifice,
Put your all upon His altar.
Leave your old life way behind.

Flick’ring torches; hatred; violence;
Crashing windows; guns of men;
We are a people divided
By our love of pow’r and fame.

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If You Think You’re Standing
An Original Work / June 12, 2026
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

Chocolate Vanilla's Journal ^w^ =3

This is the 1st time I've listened to a Taylor Swift song. It's a great song. It made me thankful because of the great love, I have for my wife. Our marriage (26 years) is a wonderful and interesting love story. Thank you for sharing this wonderful song!
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Why didn`t I get the money instead?

When corona was spreading in society, they spent billions on trying to stop it, but everyone got infected anyways. Now ebola in africa, everyone will get infected anyways, why don`t I get the money instead for a mansion?
Sometimes, when a person is this ignorant of how scientific method works, this uninformed as to recent history, and this prone to errors of logic, its JUST NOT WORTH IT.
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Grifts around 47: A running catelogue for this presidency

Nothing says assembled-in-the-US-from-foreign-made-parts-and-subassemblies-and-marketed-with-AI-slop like the Aericn flag

Trump's Patriot Phone Has Three Different Stripe Counts Across Its Own Marketing Materials — None of Them Correct

Trump Mobile's T1, the gold-coloured Android device priced at $499 (£370) and built around a pitch of patriotic identity, carries three different stripe counts across three separate marketing assets, according to reporting by The Verge.

The correct number, as established by federal statute and a glance at any American classroom, is 13. Two of those three counts are incorrect; the third was right, then quietly replaced with one that was not.

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What Did You Learn In Church Today?

5/31/26 on Acts 9
Saul knows the OT well, so Jesus uses that w/ him to reflect on
1.) 3 other times God calls people by saying their first name twice
2.) The events of Paul's calling mirrors the calling of Isaiah, Jeremiah, & Ezikiel. Also they say Israel failed, but the Savior would come & set up God's eternal kingdom. Now Paul needs to teach the Savior has come, which is what Stephen was teaching
3.) He goes thru a kind of death & rebirth.
4.) Jesus says he's going against God stubbornly.
God pursues, saves, & calls: Saul is not seeking after God. He is not even doubting it. He is persecuting the church. But God intentionally pursues him anyways
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Pray,"O Heavenly Father, In Jesus Christ's Name and By the Power And Grace of The Holy Spirit,we Declare Only Peaceful protesting in Ireland"

Pray by saying,"O Heavenly Father, In Jesus Christ's Name and By the Power And Grace of The Holy Spirit, we Declare that Only Peaceful protesting will take place in Northern Ireland due to a Sudanese person who violently attacked a person":

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