1 Corinthians 10:1-5 ESV


Even though the Israelites were God’s people by natural birth, as physical descendants of Abraham and Sarah, they didn’t all have faith, i.e. they didn’t all obey the Lord. But many of them continued to follow after the passions of the flesh, instead, in rebellion and in disobedience to the Lord. And so God was not pleased with them, and so many of them were overthrown in the wilderness, and thus they did not enter into God’s eternal rest.

Today this would be similar to the gatherings of the church. Not all who are gathering together as “the church” are people of genuine faith in Jesus Christ. Even though they participate with the church (or with what is falsely called church) in their gatherings, and even though they may or may not be taking in the truth of God’s Holy Word on a regular basis, and even though they may or may not be professing faith in Jesus, they don’t really follow him. They are also living in rebellion and disobedience to the Lord Jesus.

And if we, as professing Christians, continue to walk in sin, in sinful rebellion against our Lord, in deliberate and habitual sin, as did most of the Israelites at that time, we will be overthrown, as well. We will not enter into God’s eternal rest, but we will die in our sins. And we will face the wrath of God, too, because we refused to submit to Christ as Lord and to forsake our sinful practices and to walk in obedience to his commands, in his power.

[Matt 7:21-23; Lu 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Rom 2:6-8; Rom 6:1-23; Rom 8:1-14; Rom 12:1-2; 1 Co 6:9-10,19-20; 1 Co 10:1-22; 2 Co 5:10,15,21; Gal 5:16-24; Gal 6:7-8; Eph 2:8-10; Eph 4:17-32; Eph 5:3-6; Col 1:21-23; Col 3:1-17; Titus 2:11-14; 1 Jn 1:5-10; 1 Jn 2:3-6,24-25; 1 Jn 3:4-10; 1 Pet 2:24; Heb 3:1-19; Heb 4:1-13; Heb 10:23-31; Heb 12:1-2]

1 Corinthians 10:6-11 ESV


Now these things took place as examples for us, that we might not desire evil as they did. Do you fully grasp the meaning of what that just said? It is saying to us who profess faith in Jesus Christ that if we do as they did that we also will be overthrown and we will face the wrath of God and we will not enter into God’s eternal rest, i.e. we will not inherit eternal life with God.

And now we are given more specifics as to the types of things which they did which were displeasing to God. They were idolaters and they were revelers. They followed after the things and the pleasures of this world rather than following after God and his holiness and righteousness. Their “god” was not the God of heaven and earth, but a man-created god who would permit them to live in open rebellion against the Lord without consequence.

And this same “god” is the one that many professers of faith in Jesus are following today. For they are being convinced that they can merely profess faith in Jesus (once) and now all their sins are forgiven and heaven is guaranteed them when they die regardless of how they live. And so many of them are living in open rebellion against the Lord in the practicing of sexual immorality, revelry, and idolatry, in grumbling against God, and in putting Christ to the test by their sinful behaviors, taking his grace for granted.

But again, these things happened to them and they were written down for our instruction so that we might not desire and practice the evil that they desired and practiced, so that we don’t also end up dying in our sins and not entering into God’s eternal rest. So, we need to take these warnings seriously, for they are here to warn us of the consequences of sinful rebellion against our Lord and of refusal to bow to him in obedience.

Should I Not Preach Jesus

An Original Work / July 4, 2013
Based off 1 Corinthians 9:16-10:13

Woe to me should I not preach Jesus.
I’m compelled to preach the full gospel.
I make myself a slave to ev’ryone
To win their hearts to Christ.
All this I do for my Lord Jesus,
And for the sake of His Name;
Do it for the sake of His gospel,
So that I, its blessings gain.

Scripture notates the sins of others;
Written down for us as examples
To keep us from setting our hearts
On evil as did those of old.
Do not worship other gods of man;
Do not give your hearts to them;
Not partake in immorality.
Do not test your Lord and King.

So, be careful if you think you are
Standing firm in your faith in Jesus.
God has given his word to warn us,
So through faith we will not fall.
No temptation has o’ertaken you
Except what is commonplace.
God is faithful to not let you be
Tempted past what you can bear.
He gives the way of escape.

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April 4, 2024

Well, on April 6, 2011, thirteen years ago, the Lord Jesus gave me my very first song to write. And then on January 16, 2020, the Lord gave me the last of the 185 songs that he gave me to write for his purposes, and for his glory and praise. These songs were to be an encouragement to me and to the body of Christ and to go along with the daily devotions that he gave me to write, too. But by this point my voice was giving out, and it was getting harder and harder for me to write the songs, for then I was 70 years old, and writing and recording songs was a long and tedious process, for sure.

But I am ever so thankful to the Lord for giving me this treasure, not only of the music, but of these messages contained in these song lyrics. For the Lord has used these songs so many times throughout the past 13 years to encourage my heart and to speak his truth to me and to help me to know the direction that he wanted me to go. For they are all so rich in biblical truth, much like the Psalms, and some of them actually came from the Psalms, too. And many of these lyrics came straight from the Scriptures. And so they have been such a blessing in my life.

When I Was Walking

An Original Work / January 16, 2020

When I was walking along the way,
My Lord was with me, and He did say,
“My child I’m with you. I hear you pray,
‘Oh, help me, Lord! Need You today!’”

He is my friend, near to the end.
Gently leads me. His servant be.
He helps me pray – knows what to say.
He’s all I need. On Him I feed.

When I am wond’ring of what to do,
He gently leads me to what is truth.
He is my helper. He strengthens me.
When I’m in want, supplies my need.

He comforts me with all His love.
Gives me His grace from heav’n above.
I heed His call to watch and pray,
To guard my heart throughout each day.

When He is calling to come to Him,
To let Him lead you, trust Him within,
How will you answer to Him today?
Will you say, “Yes, Lord, have your way”?

Do not neglect to let Him in,
Cleanse you from sin, made new within.
Leave all your sin, obey your Lord,
Trust in His Word – His mighty Sword.

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Senior Anne Flanagan starts a modeling career at age 70 – SWNS

A retiree says she spent her life with low self-esteem, but now she can be seen on catwalks after a stranger approached her on the street, wanting to take a photo.

Irishwoman Anne Flanagan had never modeled before and always thought of herself as a serious person.

But after a chance meeting in January with a photographer in Belfast, she found her confidence—and a desire to have a little fun.

“I saw someone coming towards me with a camera,” said the 70-year-old, who is always happy to help a tourist by giving directions.

Christopher Ward didn’t need directions. He told her he runs the Instagram page Model Strangers, and wanted to snap her photo. Once he showed her the account, she said yes—and the post went viral.


Anne was delighted by the commenters saying how empowering the photos made them feel. Soon, people began recognizing her on the street.

“I was stopped in a coffee shop, and this lady said, ‘are you Anne?’

“They love seeing an older person being given a platform.”

SWNS reported she was “quickly snapped up by a modeling agency, a clothing brand, and a shopping centre fashion show”.

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Are you past the point of weary
Is your burden weighing heavy
Is it all too much to carry
Let me tell you ‘bout my Jesus
Do you feel that empty feeling
‘Cause shame’s done all its stealing
And you’re desperate for some healing
Let me tell you ‘bout my Jesus

He makes a way where there ain’t no way
Rises up from an empty grave
Ain’t no sinner that He can’t save
Let me tell you ‘bout my Jesus
His love is strong and His grace is free
And the good news is I know that He
Can do for you what He’s done for me
Let me tell you ‘bout my Jesus
And let my Jesus change your life
Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, amen, amen

Who can wipe away the tears
From broken dreams and wasted years
And tell the past to disappear
Let me tell you ‘bout my Jesus
And all the wrong turns that you would
Go and undo if you could
Who can work it all for your good
Let me tell you about my Jesus

Who would take my cross to Calvary
Pay the price for all my guilty
Who would care that much about me
Let me tell you ‘bout my Jesus

Dave Darling said:

Hey I just ran across this little church on YouTube, Church of the City New York, the anointing on this church is stellar, an amazing place! If I am ever in NYC I may want to pay them a visit! They have alot of videos on Youtube if you search for them! One of their videos is here: Login to view embedded media

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This is awesome. NYC is one of the most secular cities, so it pleases me that Christians can still make an impact in a dark place. We can be the light.

It would be helpful to read this in the context of the whole of 1 Corinthians to get a better grasp on what Paul’s message was here to the church, overall. For much of what Paul was speaking to the church about was with regard to their walks of faith in the Lord Jesus, and how, in so many areas, it was not matching up to God’s will and purpose for the lives of those who profess to know him as their Lord and Savior.

So, he first dealt with them in regard to the divisions that were among them and how they were raising one man (teacher) above another. And he spoke with them in saying to them that he could not address them as spiritual people, but as people of the flesh, for there was jealously and strife among them due to them raising one man above another and because they were, thus, becoming followers of man rather than followers of Jesus Christ.

He also dealt with them in regard to blatant sexual immorality within the church and how they were tolerating it and that they were proud. And so he instructed them in what they ought to do to reconcile this situation and to discipline the unrepentant sinner, and in what they needed to do to “cleanse out the old leaven” among them so that they were no longer tolerating such blatant immorality, but so they were living righteously before God.

But I don’t believe this one man was the only one engaged in sexual immorality, or that sexual immorality alone was their only offense against God, for then Paul went on to warn them against lawsuits against one another and against wronging and defrauding each other. And he said that those who practice sexual immorality, idolatry, adultery, homosexuality, thievery, drunkenness, and more, will not inherit the kingdom of God.

So, in the context of all of that, and more that I did not cover here, Paul wrote these words about running a race. So what was the message he was giving to the church here?

Now many people credit Paul with being the one who penned the book of Hebrews, as he was carried along by the Holy Spirit. So I am going to go with that and to say that Paul, thus, is the one who talked about the race that we are all to be running as followers of Christ in Hebrews 12:1-2. There he spoke of a spiritual race that God set before all of us to run. And there we are instructed that we must lay aside every weight (hindrance), and sin which clings so closely (sounds like addictive sin), so that we can run this race with endurance, looking to Jesus who endured the cross for our sake.

Well, that goes right along with the race he is talking about here in 1 Corinthians 9:24-27, too. And it fits right along with the gospel message that Jesus Christ and Paul and the other NT apostles taught, which is progressive salvation: We are saved (past), we are being saved (present active), and we will be saved (future) when Jesus Christ returns to take his faithful ones to be with him for eternity, which is when our salvation will be complete, and only if we continue in Christ and in obedience to him.

[Rom 1:18-32; Rom 2:6-8; Rom 6:1-23; Rom 8:1-14,24; Rom 12:1-2; Rom 13:11; 1 Co 1:18; 1 Co 6:9-10,19-20; 1 Co 10:1-22; 1 Co 15:1-2; 2 Co 5:10,15,21; 2 Tim 1:8-9; Gal 5:16-21; Gal 6:7-8; Eph 2:8-10; Eph 4:17-32; Eph 5:3-6; Php 2:5-11: Col 1:21-23; Col 3:5-17; Tit 2:11-14; Heb 3:1-19; Heb 4:1-13; Heb 9:28; Heb 10:23-31; Heb 12:1-2]

For that is what I believe is the message here. When Paul said that we must run this race in order to obtain the prize (our salvation from sin and eternal life with God), he intended to give us the same message which he gave over and over all throughout his writings which were authored by the Spirit of God. We have to walk in obedience to our Lord and to his commands in holy living and no longer in sin or we will not inherit eternal life with God.

And what was Paul’s own personal response to this message that he taught? He disciplined his body (his whole being) and he kept it under the control of the Holy Spirit, lest after preaching to others he should be disqualified for the prize at the end of the race. And that is the gospel message that Paul taught, that if we walk according to the Spirit, we have eternal life with God, but if we walk according to the flesh, and if sin is what we practice, and not righteousness and obedience, we will not inherit eternal life with God.

Do Your Best

An Original Work / November 7, 2011
Based off of 2 Timothy 2

Love You, Father, love You, Lord.
Be strong in the grace of Christ.
Endure hardship for your Lord.
Your commander, live to please.
You’ll receive the victor’s crown.
By the rules, run in the race.
Your Lord, you’ll see face to face.
Jesus Christ, raised from the dead;
Of your life, He is the head.
Endure all for the elect.

Love You, Father, love You, Lord.
If we died, we live with Him.
If we last, with Him we’ll reign.
If we disown Him today,
He will have to look away.
Even if we faithless be,
Faithful He’ll remain always.
He cannot disown Himself.
He’s our Lord and Savior, King.
He will reign o’er ev’rything.

Love You, Father, love You, Lord.
Do your best; present yourself
As one who’s approved by God.
Work as one who’s not ashamed;
Rightly share the Word of Truth.
Wander not from what you know.
Destroy not the faith of some.
God’s foundation; it stands firm.
The Lord knows those who are His:
Those who turn from wickedness.

Love You, Father, love You, Lord.
In a house are wood and clay,
Gold and silver, all array.
Some are noble, some are bad –
Cleanse your life, and you’ll be glad;
Useful to the Master’s work.
A pure heart – in righteousness,
Pursue faith and love and peace.
Bad desires you want to flee.
Gentle servant you must be.

Michie said:

I think it’s more about freedom of religion than any end times scenarios. That’s my impression anyway.

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Interesting stuff. Though, I do know that freedom of religion would be taken away in the Tribulation.

rambot said:

Elon Musk denies reported $45 million a month pledge to Trump, says he doesn't 'subscribe to cult of personality’

boy oh boy. He "doesn't like it when that personality won't win an election"

Disappointment? Shock? Perfect layout for that situation to make everyone a loser

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I am not a fan of Musk, cos of his personality, and his greed. Prayers for Musk, that he sets his greed aside, and stays away from dark stuff.

He also wore a satan-themed suit during Halloween 2022, a demonic, worldly holiday:

probinson said:

This assumes that this took everyone by surprise, but it should not have. Biden was showing signs of decline long before the primaries, but his administration hid it. They told everyone he was fine. The media carried their water. His supporters looked the other way.

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And yet, somehow, the story still managed to get out. But no one knew the details for sure.

probinson said:

Biden's debate performance didn't surprise me one bit. It wasn't something that should have required adapting to if people had been honest about his decline before the primaries began. Then there would have been open primaries and the Democratic voters could have chosen their candidate through a fair and honest process.

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If ifs and buts were candies and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas.

Here's the thing: Biden ran for reelection. Whether or not he should have is immaterial. His age was known, but rumors of his cognitive state circulated even before the primaries. No details were confirmed, but still, democrats took all that information in, and voted for him anyway.

Then, things changed. Biden may have felt he could do another four years, and there may have been people around him who also felt he could do it. But some didn't, and eventually, Biden himself came to the decision that he could no longer see himself serving another four years, so he decided against running for reelection.

Was this an ideal situation? No. But it's what happened. So we do what we always do when stuff happens: we adapt and deal with it.

If you, who are not a democrat, don't approve of how democrats run their party, and decide on who their nominee is, that's your business. The Democratic Party doesn't have to care what you think, nor do registered democrats. But feel free to present your opinion anyway.

-- A2SG, but still feel free to present your own nominee....there's a space to write that person in on the ballot....

FreeinChrist said:

Someone wants us to believe Biden really wasn't recuperating from Covid in Delaware or they want us to believe he was not behind his letter stepping down from the election. I have relatives that buy into conspiracy stuff. The look on their face when repeating it is like a hypnotized drone.

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Some will have entered the age of “we-don’t-know-what-to-believe-anymore” sooner than others.
The trouble is that it’s not a long journey in time nor “reasoning”.
We’re told that “all politicians lie”, so often that when someone speaks the truth, many already look for the duplicity without regarding the facts on the ground. And get mad at this duplicity and rail against that, as if their suppositions were true.

Vambram said:

Tucker Carlson warns a 'spiritual battle' is under way in America — then he reveals its No. 1 target: 'Very obvious now' | Blaze Media

Carlson is not shy about telling it how he sees it.

www.theblaze.com

Tucker Carlson believes the attempted assassination of Donald Trump is evidence of an ongoing "spiritual battle" in the United States. Speaking at a Heritage Foundation event at the Republican National Convention, Carlson shared his view that "deeper" forces, like evil, are behind attacks like the one that occurred at Trump's campaign rally in Butler, Pennsylvania. "I think what happened on Saturday — the assassination attempt against President Trump — reminded a lot of people of this or awakened a lot of people to this," Carlson said on Monday.
"There is a spiritual battle under way," he added. "There is no logical way to understand what we're seeing now in temporal terms. You just can't. These are not political divides. There are forces — and they're very obvious now; they've decided, for whatever reason, to take off the mask — whose only goal is chaos, violence, destruction."

According to Carlson, the forces that he identified are "dedicated to the destruction of people," and he believes they have a common enemy: Christians.

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Of course. Just as we all knew would happen.

HTacianas said:

You asked how we reconcile those passages. I showed you. The original of Mark 2:25 did not mention who was high priest. Neither did it mention anyone being with David. David was actually alone. Some scribe or copyist at some point who knew a bit about the old testament embellished the wording of Mar 2 to make it sound grander or more authoritative. That's how the mistakes crept into the new testament. Matthew 23:35 and Matthew 12:40 are similar.

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Late reaction, but do you have a source/reference for the original Mark 2:25-26 you mentioned that did not mention who was High Priest? Is that manuscript available online?

Paul taught the same message that Jesus taught, that Peter taught, that all the apostles taught: the kingdom of God, the grace of God, Jesus Christ and Him crucified, forgiveness of sin, the return of Christ and the coming day of the Lord. The message Paul taught and preached must be the same message that was taught by Jesus and the apostles, otherwise it would be a false message. See 1 Galatians 1:8-9. The audience was different than that in Judea, but the message was the same.

When Paul was converted, he first went and preached Christ to the Jews in Galatia, then he went into Arabia for three years, where it is believed that Paul was taught by Jesus Christ.

When Paul went to Jerusalem the second time he was given the right hand of fellowship by the other Jewish apostles who had been teaching and preaching the good news of Jesus Christ in Judea. Giving Paul the right hand of fellowship can only mean one thing: Paul was teaching and preaching the same message of Jesus Christ that the apostles in Jerusalem were teaching and preaching.

Paul, Peter, and the other apostles all preached and taught about the grace of God, the Kingdom of God, and Jesus Christ crucified, buried, and resurrected; the perfectly sinless atoning sacrifice for any that would believe.

Kokavkrystallos said:

Of course but the Bible would be taught, and Jesus the only way of salvation

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Amen, brother. The Bible is important, and Jesus is the only way to salvation. Any updates on your chapel construction, now that it is July 23, 2024?

tonychanyt said:

There are different forms of hypnosis. Some decades ago, a famous hypnotist came to town. Out of curiosity, I attended the show. He asked for volunteers. I went forth, doubting that he would be able to hypnotize me. Well, he didn't pick me. I went back to my seat and watched him making some people bark like dogs, quack like ducks, hop like rabbits, etc. People laughed. It was funny, I guess.

Is it okay for Christians to participate in this kind of hypnosis?

It is okay if it is for occasional entertainment and not habitual. The hypnotist did not induce the subjects to do anything they didn't really want to do.

There is also the Hollywood version of hypnosis. An evil master is able to dictate an innocent person to perform an act against his will upon hearing a special keyword (cue). Scientists disagree that hypnosis can do that. Hypnosis is not mind control. Christians should not engage in mind control.

There is hypnotherapy. In a hypnotherapy session, a trained therapist guides the willing subject to address his concerns, like weight problems, stress, anxiety, phobias, self-esteem, bad habits, etc. It works on some people. In this case, the Christian patient should ensure the therapist is a fellow Christian brother.

Is hypnotism okay for Christians?

Mind control is not okay. Christians should stay away from any entities trying to control their minds. In the case of hypnotherapy, it could be okay but be warned. 1 Peter 5:


Let the peace guide you. As for me, I'd rather rely on Jesus than on a Christian therapist to overcome my personal problems.

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Hypnotism is demonic, according to Deuteronomy. Also, 1 Thessalonians says we should abstain from evil.

Deuteronomy 18:9-13 (NIV): When you enter the land the Lord your God is giving you, do not learn to imitate the detestable ways of the nations there. Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. Anyone who does these things is detestable to the Lord; because of these same detestable practices the Lord your God will drive out those nations before you. You must be blameless before the Lord your God.

BPPLEE said:

I’m not going to back through all the posts to the one that shows that they’ve actually fallen 3%

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While you're not looking, here's some more info to chew on: Statement by Acting Secretary of Labor Su on January jobs report

“Today, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported that the American economy added 353,000 jobs in January, bringing the total jobs created under President Biden to 14.8 million. The unemployment rate held at its steady, low rate of 3.7 percent. This continues a two-year trend of a jobless rate under four percent, the longest stretch in more than 50 years.

And: Inflation vs. wages: How rising prices stack up against growing pay

'Since February 2020, the Consumer Price Index has climbed a cumulative 20.8%, according to Bureau of Labor Statistics data. Over that same period, average hourly earnings rose 22.3%.'

In short, you won't find any information that says that overall wages have not increased faster than inflation.

stevil said:

Parents should love their kids regardless of their kids beliefs. Parents should encourage their kids to find their own path in life. Parents should be there for their kids, giving them love and support and building up their confidence. Once kids turn 12 parents should start letting go of control, letting their kids make their own decisions. Parents shouldn't be over controlling, shouldn't goad, ridicule, coerce or blackmail their children.

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Now we have your opinion. Christians should obey God and teach their children to also obey God. As for teaching methods, God didn't instruct us to goad, ridicule, coerce or blackmail others. You sound as if you have a chip on your shoulder. I'm sorry you were mistreated.

anothersisterinchrist said:

So my step mum raised me since I was about 10 years old. My real mum moved away and has remained in my life but we don’t speak often. I became a born again Christian a few years ago and while I don’t support the Mormon church (I am aware that their baptism isn’t a true Christian baptism), I feel bad to not be there for my step mum since she wants me there. I am also worried it will make her hesitant to attend my own events if my faith is involved. I don’t want to cause division between us so I am confused about what to do… any biblical advice appreciated Sorry if this is the wrong thread/forum for this question.

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When I was a Mormon I attended my aunt's church hoping she would attend the Mormon church with me. She didn't. But her church, I think, was Jesus Only.

Lupus effects on the skin – credit Nephron, CC BY-SA 3.0

A team of scientists from Northwestern Medicine and Brigham and Women’s Hospital have identified the cause of lupus, a devastating autoimmune disease that affects 1.5 million Americans.

In doing so they also believe they’ve found a cure, or at least a more sophisticated treatment, and are currently working on developing a pharmacologic method of delivering the potential cure-like molecule.

Lupus erythematosus, to use its full name, involves the body’s immune system attacking its own native cells, causing a variety of skin complications, while also potentially life-threatening damage to the heart, kidney, and brain. The cause of lupus isn’t well understood, and the scientists at Northwestern criticized existing treatments as “blunt instruments.”

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In a scientific paper demonstrating multiple breakthroughs, scientists at Sydney and Liverpool have identified a commonly available blood thinner that doubles as an antidote to cobra venom.

The study relied on CRISPR gene modification technology to identify cells immune to snake venom and use them as case studies to figure out what would be the best mechanism for preventing necrosis from snake bites.

The authors describe snake bites in general as “the deadliest neglected tropical disease” and report that around 140,000 people every year die from them, with another 400,000 permanently wounded.

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Thank you all for being so helpful. I was finally able to find the thread I was interested in. I think I understand a little better how to get around here.

Michie said:

Welcome Deblee.

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Thank you, Michie! ☺️

Wild West Wildlife Rehabilitation Center – FB

Being that it took place in America, as far as volunteers at the Wild West Wildlife Rehabilitation Center were concerned it was a story that could only happen in Texas.

A family in the north Texas city of Amarillo found a baby bird lying cold and abandoned on the ground in their yard during a swim party and barbeque.

The mother acted fast, tossing a tortilla on the stove before using it like a warm blanket to scoop up the chick.

Afterwards the WWWRC was alerted by the family that they had found what they thought was an owlet, but what turned out to be a Mississippi kite.

“Undoubtedly, it was an inventive method to keep the baby warm, and surprisingly, it was effective,” the wildlife center said in a Facebook post. “Wildlife rescue is always filled with lively and unexpected moments.”


The young bird is doing well and has since been given the name Taquito.

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Father I pray for HeartOfSilver to also be given peace and rest.

Is 30:15
For this is what the Lord God, the Holy One of Israel, has said:
“In repentance and rest you will be saved,
In quietness and trust is your strength.”

Ps 46;10 Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.

rocknanchor said:

Wish I could 'AlexB23', I will endeavor to all the while knowing, it has been a good number of years since watching that doc. I am not ruling out it being a 60-minutes episode.

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Thank you, brother. 60-minutes was good. I like PBS Frontline as well.

Grip Docility said:

I will answer this because of my conviction. The Mother Church was active 1500 years before the protest. They had over 1500 years in comparison to the Protest churches, which have been around for only 500ish years. 1500 years is a long time to keep a record of wrongs. Fortunately, the Same God of the Protestants is the Same God of the Catholics and He, Being Love Incarnate, keeps no record of wrongs.

I cannot indict either as having more acts of atrocity. Under the guidance of Protestants, Salem happened. I can further say that many puritans enforced torture and death in light of "doctrinal" adherence in the early formation years. Instead of seeing one party as more guilty than the other, I see us as all bound together.

I will state that the Protestant bodies seem to focus on the Spiritual delivery of the gospel and spoon feeding the saints with a bit of physical ministry allotted to a small percentage of individuals here and there.

The Big "C" Mother Church has perpetually out performed the Protestant Physical Bodies in matters of the Physical Gospel. I can't ignore this. Catholics are called to physical ministry in whatever their capacity is, by nature of the doctrines.

I would say that Atheist's militant, not Agnostics and soft Atheist's are more in line with Satan's doctrine than most think. They believe that the entire Law is specifically "Do as thou wilt" (No Love to motivate, Hate taught as normal and necessary) and that there is no Satan.

As for the war against the invisible Body, Paul said Jesus Christ shouldn't be divided, yet the Devil has made over 29,000 successful amputations and separations.

There's only One Jesus. The rest has happened, is happening in real time and is to happen as God described.

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I cannot ignore Jesus' teachings and accept wrongdoing.
Matthew 5:43-48; John 13:34, 35; Luke 6:27-36; Romans 12:14, 17-21

Jesus said, at John 16:2-4 2 They will ban you from the synagogue, yet an hour is coming for everyone who kills you to think that he is offering a service to God. 3 These things they will do because they have not known the Father nor Me. 4 But these things I have spoken to you, so that when their hour comes, you may remember that I told you of them. However, I did not say these things to you at the beginning, because I was with you.

When Jesus starts gathering the weeds, he won't be pulling out individual weeds, like we do, when we have a few weeds in our garden.
Jesus will be pulling heaps upon heaps of them, and the collection will be very great in comparison to the wheat. Matthew 7:13, 14

Grip Docility said:

This has been a pleasant and thought provoking discussion.

Thank you, as well, CoreyD

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I really hope it was more than thought provoking, but that is still positive.
Thank you.