Florida sex ed

[rambot]

Becky and Dave. Some neighbors of mine.

I asked Becky and Dave. They want to know exactly what "formal and rigorous instruction on consent" means.

Good for Becky and Dave! They seem like standup people concerned about the safety of women and men!

I mean, full lessons (or even several) explaining the purpose and meaning of consent as well as opportunities to practice....
not just...
"No means no guys. Now take out your social texts and turn to p125"

 

[Chesterton]

Good for Becky and Dave! They seem like standup people concerned about the safety of women and men!

Oh, no no no. Quite the opposite.

I mean, full lessons (or even several) explaining the purpose and meaning of consent as well as opportunities to practice....
not just...
"No means no guys. Now take out your social texts and turn to p125"

You want kids to have opportunities to practice? In the classroom?

 

[rambot]

Oh, no no no. Quite the opposite.

Doesn't appear that way. What gives you the impression they want kids to not be safe? Do they agree that looking at drawings of a naked human adult is going to destory them?

You want kids to have opportunities to practice? In the classroom?

Consent? Yes.

 

[RileyG]

My link details a Colorado program that provided long term birth control and cut the abortion rate in half for the demographic targeted. There are zero pro-life groups promoting similar programs which demonstrates that getting people to conform to their sexual morality is more important than reducing the number of abortions.

Not to ramble on, but maybe some people are uncomfortable with the thought of teens having sex which is why they don’t provide birth control….even though it happens all the time. That’s my only guess.

 

[Desk trauma]

Not to ramble on, but maybe some people are uncomfortable with the thought of teens having sex which is why they don’t provide birth control….even though it happens all the time. That’s my only guess.

So uncomfortable they’re ok with twice as many unwanted pregnancy and abortions instead.

 

[RileyG]

So uncomfortable they’re ok with twice as many unwanted pregnancy and abortions instead.

They’re not ok with it. Most people, from my experience, who support abstinence only believe sex is only acceptable within a marriage.

 

[rambot]

Not to ramble on, but maybe some people are uncomfortable with the thought of teens having sex which is why they don’t provide birth control….even though it happens all the time. That’s my only guess.

Oh for sure. I would be CRAZY uncomfortable with the thought of my teen daughter having sex.

But her own health and well being is MORE important than my comfort level.

Though perhaps these are also people who wouldn't be too bothered if their teen daughter had a baby.

 

[RileyG]

Oh for sure. I would be CRAZY uncomfortable with the thought of my teen daughter having sex.

But her own health and well being is MORE important than my comfort level.

Though perhaps these are also people who wouldn't be too bothered if their teen daughter had a baby.

Who knows? I’m not a parent so I don’t have an opinion.

 

[Chesterton]

So uncomfortable they’re ok with twice as many unwanted pregnancy and abortions instead.

I've always loved that phrase "unwanted pregnancy". A lot like an "unwanted Russian Roulette result". Pro Tip: even though it's lots of fun, don't play Russian Roulette.

 

[RileyG]

I've always loved that phrase "unwanted pregnancy". A lot like an "unwanted Russian Roulette result". Pro Tip: even though it's lots of fun, don't play Russian Roulette.

Agreed. I never understood the whole consent to sex doesn’t mean consent to pregnancy, when that’s LITERALLY how biology and reproduction works.

 

[Chesterton]

Though perhaps these are also people who wouldn't be too bothered if their teen daughter had a baby.

Teenagers having babies is not the problem. In fact it's a good thing. The younger the parents are, the more physically and mentally healthy the baby will likely be. That's mostly how it always was.

The problem is irresponsible teenagers, and late stage capitalism which makes it very hard to afford a family.

 

[rambot]

Teenagers having babies is not the problem. In fact it's a good thing. The younger the parents are, the more physically and mentally healthy the baby will likely be. That's mostly how it always was.

It's interesting to me that someone from a developed country would make that argument.

Are you harkenning back to the time of child brides and an infant/newborn/mother mortality rates worse than anything currently on rhe planet that nobody would DARE wish on any female in their family?

 

[Desk trauma]

They’re not ok with it. Most people, from my experience, who support abstinence only believe sex is only acceptable within a marriage.

Like I said, enforcing their sexual morality is more important than reducing abortions.

 

[RileyG]

Like I said, enforcing their sexual morality is more important than reducing abortions.

I’m not saying you’re wrong.

I will leave it at that.