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ABC pulls Jimmy Kimmel Live after comments on Charlie Kirk

The First Amendment begins with "Congress shall make no law." ABC isn't congress or government, Neither is CF, which enforces rules of behavior.
See post #104. The issue isn't that ABC chose to cancel his show after what he said. The issue is that ABC chose to cancel his show after the chairman of the FCC threatened them with legal action if they didn't.

How would you feel about the chairman of the FCC under Biden threatening Fox with fines and suspension of their broadcast license if they didn't fire their commentators who perpetuated the lies about the 2020 election?
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Transcript of Kirk's killer's messages has been revealed

One last time. It appears you are woefully uninformed or are dodging. Being transgender has nothing to do with being non-binary. So if a biological male is transgender, what gender does he have an affinity for?
To my understanding non-binary is transgender. If someone who at birth was assigned woman or man based on their sex are now saying they are not woman or man but non-binary, they would be transgender. What gender do you see a non-binary person as? I really don't understand your position. How I understand transgender they would be either, woman, non-binary or agender (assuming they would be have assigned as man).
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ABC pulls Jimmy Kimmel Live after comments on Charlie Kirk

The First Amendment begins with "Congress shall make no law." ABC isn't congress or government, Neither is CF, which enforces rules of behavior.

Kimmel can stay that all day long. ABC has chosen not to carry it. No one is preventing Kimmel from speaking his mind, but just because he says something doesn't mean ABC has to air it.

Writers are very familiar with the process. Manuscripts end up in the slush pile, where they may or may not be judged worthy of purchase. And despite all the rejection slips that every writer receives, I've never heard an author say the editors were suppressing his or her's 1st Amendment rights by not buying their manuscript.
This is, however, a chilling development, not different from the blacklists of the McCarthy era...which were also voluntary.
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ABC pulls Jimmy Kimmel Live after comments on Charlie Kirk

Fascism is a political system conveniently represented by the Roman faces. The core belief of fascism is that different elements of society are so different that they must be ruled by a strong central government, and all things must conform to the interest of the State. In the fascist model, businesses are mostly privately owned, but must do the dictates of the State. Civil liberties are antipathy to the fascist as the needs of the individual are seen as outweighed by the needs of the State.

The flaw is focusing on the various effects of fascism as belonging only to fascist systems when they are part and parcel of any totalitarian government. Fascism and communism are kissing cousins, but good luck getting them to admit it, with communism taking a different approach to socialism. There is no difference between the totalitarian aspects of the two, yet those aspects can exist in monarchies as well.

(Stands back and waits for the impassioned arguments that this only happens on the right and never, ever, ever on the left).
The three components I listed are, when together, make up fascism...as defined by the fascists themselves. Read, for instance, "Fundamental Ideas," by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile and "Political and Social Doctrine" by Mussolini.

Fascism does not, for instance, identify any particular economic system. Fascism will adopt whatever mode of economics is necessary to support its governmental aims. Anytime someone tells you that a fascism government must have a specific kind of economic system is simply wrong. The fascists themselves never said such.

Notice, also, I never said totalitarianism was specific to fascism. Totalitarianism is not even one of the three fundamental components.
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Israel-Hamas Thread II

Because 'the Palestinian people' and 'the terrorists' are not identical groups of people.

But, over the last two years, Israel has not simply defended itself against Hamas. Instead, it has waged an all-out war against the entire Palestinian people.

"All-out war" is pretty much the last word that should come to mind when we see how Israel is really acting in Gaza. Those responsible for "all-out-war" do not provide for their alleged victims, do not warn them of attacks, and do not set up escape routes or humanitarian zones.
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ABC pulls Jimmy Kimmel Live after comments on Charlie Kirk

I'm continually disappointed by how many of my fellow Americans do not value the 1st Amendment.

Free speech for me, but not for thee eh?
The First Amendment begins with "Congress shall make no law." ABC isn't congress or government, Neither is CF, which enforces rules of behavior.

Kimmel can stay that all day long. ABC has chosen not to carry it. No one is preventing Kimmel from speaking his mind, but just because he says something doesn't mean ABC has to air it.

Writers are very familiar with the process. Manuscripts end up in the slush pile, where they may or may not be judged worthy of purchase. And despite all the rejection slips that every writer receives, I've never heard an author say the editors were suppressing his or her's 1st Amendment rights by not buying their manuscript.
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Transcript of Kirk's killer's messages has been revealed

Well, then you are wrong.

It's too bad you don't want to examine why young men are turning to murder as a solution. These men are shooting up churchs, synogages, politicians and the children in our schools....
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Trump to designate antifa a 'major terrorist organization'

Antifa, if it exists at all, is a randomly and haphazardly assembled group of like minded persons in opposition to what they see as fascism. It is not an organization such as people meeting in the woods under white robes burning crosses and planning their next campaign and membership drive. Good luck trying to eradicate the resistance. I think it is just more empty rhetoric from the Oval office rallying the base. But there is plenty of room on the bandwagon for those who want to jump on.
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ABC pulls Jimmy Kimmel Live after comments on Charlie Kirk

I wish I were confident that you were joking.

But that is, indeed, one of the three components of classical fascism as described by the fascists themselves: Political irrationalism.

The other two components are:

Organicism: A “blood and soil” concept where a certain people are the rightful inheritors of the nation.

Absolutism: The will of those people is embodied by a single Inspired Leader.

At this point, all three exist in MAGA.
Fascism is a political system conveniently represented by the Roman faces. The core belief of fascism is that different elements of society are so different that they must be ruled by a strong central government, and all things must conform to the interest of the State. In the fascist model, businesses are mostly privately owned, but must do the dictates of the State. Civil liberties are antipathy to the fascist as the needs of the individual are seen as outweighed by the needs of the State.

The flaw is focusing on the various effects of fascism as belonging only to fascist systems when they are part and parcel of any totalitarian government. Fascism and communism are kissing cousins, but good luck getting them to admit it, with communism taking a different approach to socialism. There is no difference between the totalitarian aspects of the two, yet those aspects can exist in monarchies as well.

(Stands back and waits for the impassioned arguments that this only happens on the right and never, ever, ever on the left).
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Eric Trump on Charlie Kirk’s Legacy and the Radical Left – “This Could Have Been the Greatest Mistake These People Have Ever Made” (VIDEO)

I don’t think attraction is a choice, but behavior is.
LGB sexual attraction not is a choice. Neither is being an arachnophobic. But in both situations, people become them after some sort of trauma, usually at a very young age.

Note: this study only discusses childhood sexual trauma in homosexuals. But there are numerous other childhood traumas like physical abuse and emotional neglect that contribute to a psychological shift leading to same sex attraction.
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Famed feminist website Jezebel paid witches on Etsy to curse Charlie Kirk — 2 days before he was assassinated

While my knowledge of Nazi cultural lore isn't shocking, it is a topic I've doused my ankles in from time to time and I have several books that inform my particular niche access to that topic, minus the esoteric part of it.
The fascination of all things occult, esoteric, and supernatural from the high-ranking Nazis was actually super interesting because for a regime that was so knowledge driven, so regimented, so orderly, so attentive to perfection through logic and purity, they were heckin' obsessed with exploring every avenue of domination, which included a truly deep, deep dive into the occult. The rationale varies from "in all things we dominate, including that realm, which we will bend to our will" and Homer Simpson's prayer: "I'm not a praying man, but Jesus, Allah, Buddha, and Superman, if you're up there and you can hear me..."

If it's your jam, you should check it out. The juxtaposition of the rational logic with the crippling superstitiousness is a journey through the backend of what made the Nazi party so dangerously, unpredictably erratic, in a way not seen with, say, the Russians and the Japanese, who had layers of predictability given their sense of country over all (Russians) and Nationalistic traditions of honor and religion (Japan).

Wicca or witchcraft, on the other hand, is a general field of interest that I'll admit I have very little knowledge of. I have seen a few 'witch' flix over the past few decades, and I'm sure you could tell me where they each go wrong in their depictions.
I could, but I suspect I'd land in trouble. I'll just say that what this lady did is popular culture/Instagram witchcraft and the listing on Etsy seems very "here's my baloney pedigree of made up things that sound good to the general public... Give me your money." I maintain judging by the price, reviews, and listing, she took a picture, set a witchy stage using the picture, sent it, and called it a day, collecting $1.25 (after fees) for the trouble.

As for learning and fixating in general, it sounds like we have that in common. I can respect that.
Why doom scroll fearing for disasters when you can doom historical facts and scientific research and see disasters repeat themselves over hundreds of years?
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Erika Kirk Delivers Powerful National Address, Says Movement Will Not Die

Everyone flying a commercial airliner in the US has been trained to the same federal standards, passed the same tests, received the same psychological and medical evaluations, and is subject to the same strict rules on crew rest. There is no reason that anyone flying on an accredited airline should think that their pilot might not be capable of doing his or her job. There is no "DEI" component to earning a pilot's license.
Unfortunately, there was a DEI component to earning a pilots license.
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What is currently on your mind?

A heads up concerning free speech,
malicious talk kills three people:
The speaker, the listener, and the one who is spoken of.
1-10 things to remind oneself of eachday include;
"Remember what God did to Miriam."
If all three are already dead, does it matter at all to those three ?

They might even all be religious?
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Transcript of Kirk's killer's messages has been revealed

But if their current gender identity is different to the one commonly assigned to their sex at birth, they are transgender.

One last time. It appears you are woefully uninformed or are dodging. Being transgender has nothing to do with being non-binary. So if a biological male is transgender, what gender does he have an affinity for?
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Eric Trump on Charlie Kirk’s Legacy and the Radical Left – “This Could Have Been the Greatest Mistake These People Have Ever Made” (VIDEO)

Harvey Milk is not for anyone to emulate.
Agreed. She says they are to teach people not to be jerks to the LGBT community. I say it is to teach kids that it is normal, aka normalized. Everything about LGBT is, at its root, sexual. "Deviant" means differing from a norm or from the accepted standards of a society. Heterosexuality is the norm. Therefore, LGBT is by definition, sexual deviance, and all the books encourage the normalization and acceptance of it.
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5 officers shot, 3 fatally, while serving warrant at farm in Pennsylvania: Officials -- shooter dead

The odds fora planet killer meteorite are better than substantive gun legislation in the US.
I hope you aren’t right, but you might be. What else can I say? :(

I’m speechless
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