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Apple Sky · Monday at 3:33 AM

Strong in Him said:
Once again, the lack of quotation marks means that you are passing someone else's words off as you own. That is theft.

For one it is not anybody else's words it is just basic info found on the net, check it out if you don't believe me.

prudent_commenter · Monday at 3:27 AM

timewerx said:
I don't think this role of wives is sustained in the New Testament.

That role is superseded by the Holy Spirit just like the role of caring for the Lord's creations/children/"sheep" is no longer Adam's and has been to transferred to Jesus and His disciples. Paul said wives to submit to husbands but that's a different thing than being a "helper". Someone submitting to authority only takes commands with blind obedience even if the command will lead to harm. A helper does a lot more.

The Holy Spirit as a helper does not submit to us. So even wives sustained that role, they don't need to submit to their husbands to fulfill that role.

I also don't think that Paul's commands for wives to submit to husbands still applies today. Paul is all about "blending in" (1 Corinthians 9:19-23). You'll stand out like a sore thumb if wives did not submit to their husbands in the Roman Empire as well as to the Pharisees. And women back then did not receive as much education as men and have fewer rights so it might have served their best interest to submit to men back then.

But not today. Jesus said nothing about it despite having female disciples and most likely aware that some of His disciples were married.

The only authoritative teaching on the subject is from God in the book of Genesis. However, God handed it to Eve to punish her along with other consequences (curse) of sin to both men and women.

Yet, Jesus lifted that curse. I really don't think it works anymore. Just like the practice of stoning sinners to death. We don't do that anymore, not even Judaists (formerly Pharisee) they don't do it either. "My yoke is light and easy" as reference to Adam's curse of hard toil. This is a very strong implication that cover's women's position and the fact that Jesus also broke cultural taboos on dealing with women.

Keep an open mind. You're almost there.

The corruption of men is done through women. Nothing in the world can corrupt a man more than a woman. This is why you are forbidden to marry a non-believer. A believer and non-believer, chances are more to turn to believer into non-believing, than the other way around. Why? Because the path of sin is much easier (and people do love easiness).

Women corrupt with their mouths. That's what Eve used, and that's what every other has used since then. There are some verses that explains this. Their body provides distraction, and the mouth convinces. That was the case of Adam.

When I say a helper I mean something that is forbidden to corrupt that which it helps.

Christ is the head of the man, man is the head of the woman.

As for the open mind. A good woman depends on every individual. I do a lot of things that many people do not. I must not be corrupted by their thinking, and their copied behaviors of society. As such, I need my equivalent, or at the very least a woman that does not follow the world. Which would imply living a life opposite of what 90% of the people are living. That's a good woman to me.

Apple Sky · Monday at 3:27 AM

Strong in Him said:
Your point?

Given in post #2.500

Larniavc · Monday at 3:19 AM

NxNW said:
People Can't Stop Talking About Those New Viral Images Of Trump's Hand

They're talking about his hand, again.

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What intravenous drugs do you think he's receiving? What medical conditions is he hiding?

Young person’s blood? We know from many testimonies that Hillary Clinton drank baby’s blood so what is there to stop Trump from doing the same to eek a few more moments of life?

Hey, I’m just asking questions.

Strong in Him · Monday at 3:15 AM

Apple Sky said:
There are an estimated 200 billion to 2 trillion galaxies in the observable universe, with newer estimates suggesting the number could be even higher, potentially reaching 6 to 20 trillion, especially when including smaller satellite galaxies. These numbers are based on deep-field observations from telescopes like the Hubble Space Telescope and account for a fraction of what current technology can detect.

I suspect this is a quote, as you do not believe in galaxies, nor the Hubble telescope.
Once again, the lack of quotation marks means that you are passing someone else's words off as you own. That is theft.

Apple Sky said:
King James Bible
And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind

You haven't given a reference for this, but it's from Revelation 6:13 and is talking about after the 6th seal is opened.
Your point?

Larniavc · Monday at 3:14 AM

Clare73 said:
There is no "social" justice. . .there is only justice; i.e., giving everyone what he has earned; i.e., what he is due.

Yeah but that clearly does not happen.

prudent_commenter · Monday at 3:14 AM

timewerx said:
I'm know how social media is badly corrupting women but there are still many good women out there.

I don't know if they are.

timewerx said:
Ironically, something good has come out of the corrupting influence of the social media - makes it easier to see ones that are good vs the ones who had the corrupting influence of the social media.

That's how I think as well: to know good, you need to know evil.

Larniavc · Monday at 3:12 AM

joechristianwarrior said:
I know many Christians are hesitant to connect "following Jesus" with what's often called "social justice". But I believe there's compelling biblical support - even in passages like Micah 6:8 - that following Jesus compels us to pursue justice, including in societal forms.

What do you think - does Scripture call us to systemic justice, or is the focus primarily on individual devotion?

I'd love to hear your thoughts, especially after watching this video: Login to view embedded media

Some scripture certainly does but other scripture certainly does not. For me as someone who used to be young it’s the inconsistency of the message that detracts from the overall legitimacy.

Apple Sky · Monday at 3:11 AM

THE FALSE WITNESSES NEED TO SEE THE LIGHT - The firmament & more.

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Strong in Him · Monday at 3:08 AM

Apple Sky said:
Wormwood scrubs, what do you think

I don't know; that's why I asked you.

Apple Sky · Monday at 3:07 AM

David Lamb said:
So why did you begin your post by telling us that there are billions or even trillions of stars? It doesn't make any sense at all for you to say that, and then to say that such a vast number is too many to fall to earth.

I was just trying to make a point as this is what they tell us, if true how are all the stars going to fall from heaven as it states in the Bible.

fide · Monday at 3:01 AM

Michie said:
The soul and the spirit matter — and they matter to human rights for everyone, everywhere

When I turned up at Jakarta’s Our Lady of the Assumption Cathedral 10 minutes before the start of Mass and could not get into the cathedral, I learned my lesson. Religion in Asia matters.

I struggled to find a seat in the overflow area. I grumbled. It was hot and crowded.

But as Holy Mass began, with angelic singing, my grumbling turned to gratitude, and my annoyance transformed to celebration.

My heart told me: “You are in the world’s largest Muslim-majority nation, in a Catholic cathedral opposite the Istiqlal mosque, Southeast Asia’s largest Islamic place of worship, and yet the cathedral is filled to overflowing and echoing with songs of praise. Even more amazing, the architect of the Istiqlal mosque was a Christian. Isn’t this a moment of awe and wonder?”

That was not the only moment of spiritual inspiration in recent weeks. This summer, I spent six consecutive Sundays in Asia.

From the Feast of Corpus Christi in a yurt in Mongolia, to a chance encounter with Myanmar’s Archbishop of Mandalay in Bangkok, from a Mass said in Thai by an Italian priest in Chiang Mai’s Sacred Heart Cathedral to a rainforest in Bali, I enjoyed the rich variety of God’s Creation — and celebrated the vitality of religion in all its diversity.

Continued below.

Asia reminded me that life is about more than the carnal and secular - UCA News

The soul and the spirit matter — and they matter to human rights for everyone, everywhere

www.ucanews.com

Is the foundation of "religious diversity" not merely sin? Is it true to Catholic ecumenism to celebrate sin? No, to "celebrate" diversity as a "human right" makes sense to satan, and to "progressives" who have been captured in his lies.

Pray the Our Father - the True prayer, given to us by Jesus. We are to pray to the Father, "Thy Kingdom come!" The Kingdom of God recognizes that there is one and only one rightful King of the earth and of all creation: the Triune God who created it. It - and we - rightfully belong to Him. He is Truth; "religious diversity" is institutionalized fictional make-believe, not Faith, replacing Holy Truth and authentic Love. This article is "false irenicism" carried to its dark logical conclusion: Forget Truth; Let's all just get along.

"Nothing is so foreign to the spirit of ecumenism as a false irenicism, in which the purity of Catholic doctrine suffers loss and its genuine and certain meaning is clouded." [UR 11: DECREE ON ECUMENISM - UNITATIS REDINTEGRATIO]

Apple Sky · Monday at 3:00 AM

David Lamb said:
Exactly. Air pressure, and its density, both decrease the higher up one goes. Why, if air is trying to escape from earth, and is only prevented from doing so by a solid dome barrier?

What does air do if faced with a vacuum ?

David Lamb · Monday at 2:46 AM

LovebirdsFlying said:
I feel excited. I’m getting ready for church to start, and the sermon will be on Jonah 4. Our pastor goes through one OT book, then one NT, and walks us through the entire book.

I have heard sermons on Jonah before. They all boil it down to, “God said go. Jonah said no. Hehehehe, isn’t that clever, I made a rhyme!” They get as far as the fish coughs him up, and he goes anyway. Lesson, never disobey God! Sometimes they get to Nineveh repenting, God sparing them, and Jonah being ticked off about that.

But I have never in my years heard a sermon on the plant and the worm.

Here goes.

Yes, that is one of the values of preaching through whole books of the bible, rather than just picking out a text verses here and there.

stevevw · Monday at 2:46 AM

CoreyD said:
It's important to identify a wolf, if you are to be a good shepherd who protects the sheep, isn't it?
If one fail to judge between a wolf and a sheep, then they can only read Jesus' words, but are not able to apply them.
Jesus started his statements with "Beware".

Matthew 7:15, 16
Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will recognize them.

Imagine you went to a house, and there is this sign on the gate

This thing on four legs comes up to the gate, but you don't want to judge it, and so you reach your hand over the gate to give it a friendly greeting.

I think its when there us not a sign and theres a dog lol. You enter and from around the corner comes a big dog. If its tails wagging then thank God. But if its not then your doing your best impression of 'nice boy, good boy' lol.

CoreyD said:
If we don't make judgments in this world, we would not be applying the scriptures at all, would we. Worst yet, we would be in serious trouble.
For example, the scriptures say...
Whoever walks with the wise becomes wise, but the companion of fools will suffer harm. Proverbs 13:20

Would we not identify who are fools... not that they do not have intelligence, but they lack good moral values, or are ungodly?
We would, if we want to protect our spiritual values, and even those of our children.
We would not want our children hanging out with youths who do drugs, used profanity, or engage in immoral talk and conduct, would we.

In the same way, we want to protect the flock - our spiritual brothers and sisters, as you nicely explained.
I think generally, people know this quite well, but why religion is excluded, is simply because it's a comfort zone to be in, when we take the position, that we are not to judge religion, or religious beliefs.

People know this as well.
They may not want to hear it though.

Thats why I think the teachings around marriage and the family are so foundational. At leasy hopefully in a free society Christians can live the teachings in this respect. Though it seems these values are becoming outdated.

But just like the family the church community is similar in that we can as a church be seperate and our own family with Christian teachings and values.

But I like the family it is being encroached on and I think much of Paul and the disciples and overseers was protecting the Christian community and holding true to the Christian family values in a world that often worked against this if not hated this.

David Lamb · Monday at 2:44 AM

Apple Sky said:
Yes -

So why did you begin your post by telling us that there are billions or even trillions of stars? It doesn't make any sense at all for you to say that, and then to say that such a vast number is too many to fall to earth.

Apple Sky · Monday at 2:39 AM

David Lamb said:
You then quote a bible verse about the stars falling to earth. Is your point that if there are so many stars, they could not all fall to earth?

Yes -

David Lamb · Monday at 2:36 AM

Apple Sky said:
HOW AIR PRESSURE CHANGES BELOW THE FIRMAMENT
you tube https://youtu.be/Oz16p99oKTQ?si=csAy3-soX2N6LjS5

Exactly. Air pressure, and its density, both decrease the higher up one goes. Why, if air is trying to escape from earth, and is only prevented from doing so by a solid dome barrier?

Apple Sky · Monday at 2:33 AM

David Lamb said:
But just suppose for the moment that your idea of a solid dome preventing the earth's atmosphere escaping is true. Does that fit with observable facts? If the atmosphere was trying to escape, and was only prevented from doing so by a solid dome, we would expect there to be more atmosphere the nearer we got to the dome. But that is not what happens. The higher one goes from the earth, whether in a plane or by climbing a mountain, the less atmosphere there is.

HOW AIR PRESSURE CHANGES BELOW THE FIRMAMENT

you tube https://youtu.be/Oz16p99oKTQ?si=csAy3-soX2N6LjS5

fhansen · Monday at 2:25 AM

joechristianwarrior said:
I know many Christians are hesitant to connect "following Jesus" with what's often called "social justice". But I believe there's compelling biblical support - even in passages like Micah 6:8 - that following Jesus compels us to pursue justice, including in societal forms.

What do you think - does Scripture call us to systemic justice, or is the focus primarily on individual devotion?

I'd love to hear your thoughts, especially after watching this video: Login to view embedded media

Of course social justice is a priority for the church. Individual devotion to God without care and action for the poor or rejected, victimized, exploited, for the “least of these”, etc should be a contradiction in terms.

David Lamb · Monday at 2:21 AM

Apple Sky said:
Think about it ???

I have. I cannot get your point, as you said at the start of your post: "There are an estimated 200 billion to 2 trillion galaxies in the observable universe, with newer estimates suggesting the number could be even higher, potentially reaching 6 to 20 trillion, especially when including smaller satellite galaxies." You then quote a bible verse about the stars falling to earth. Is your point that if there are so many stars, they could not all fall to earth? But if so, why did you start your post by saying that there are billions or trillions of stars?

Aaron112 · Monday at 2:18 AM

stevevw said:
the word itself 'social justice comes with so much baggage that its a dangerous philosophy to stand on. It invites ideological culture wars. Its playing the same game as secular politics. It makes Christians and the church one more division among many who are fighting for what is right and how society should be ordered.

This is more about social constructionism than the gospel. It cultivates the idea that we can build within society a social justice utopia that everyone is fighting for. Rather than Gods Kingdom on earth as it is in heaven.

The best ways of society, of the world, are still pernicious ! Death dealing. As written in Galatians et al.

stevevw said:
So buying into the culture wars is a trap if you are not strong in the faith.

Also if someone is supposedly strong in the faith ! To believe culture is somehow okay, or good, or right with a good motive is deception for all.

stevevw said:
People can be fooled by lookalike ideas that sound good but are designed to undermine Gods way and Christs truth in the gospel.

Amen. The whole world is fooled. Deceived. Noted by almost all the forum posts too !

stevevw said:
Thats why I think the church community should be seperate from how mainstream society sees the social justice issue.

"Come out of her" is required for Jesus' followers! To follow Jesus is to have a single eye towards Him, to serve only Jesus and no one else.

stevevw said:
The church has always been there in the background mopping up the mess society creates. The Good Samaritans who get involved regardless of the politics.

No. The disciples of Jesus did not clean up after the religious leaders, nor the political leaders , nor today after the financial and medical officials all of which are deceptive towards utter destruction.
The disciples of Jesus who are faithful follow Jesus no matter what, wherever He goes, and are likewise perscecuted as He was, not congratulated nor 'blessed' by the evils of mankind/society.

Serve God , and Him Only.

johansen · Monday at 2:15 AM

ARBITER01 said:
If it was left alone for such things, then yea. I've already seen a gal on here trying to train an AI program to pick out what prophecies were true, people that were promoting Chatgpt as possibly GOD speaking to them, claiming themselves as some sort of Chatgpt witness.

As I said before on here, it's the new shiny precious in Christianity.

Using ai to search the thousands of prophecies was pretty smart.

You however did not contribute anything to that conversation and it is no surprise to me they deleted their posts. Im rather glad they did. Because a significant percentage (perhaps all of it) of legitimate prophecy was never intended by God to be on the internet for public disclosure.

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