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There’s a Giant Flaw in Human History
- By stevevw
- Physical & Life Sciences
- 751 Replies
Petrie actually discovered these works over 100 years ago and around the end of the 19th century. Sure there was the industrial revolution but Petrie was describing witness marks that were beyond the current tech. Anyway they were his words at the time which was his expert opinion. He was not a conspiracists.
My example of NASA or it could have been any company that makes precision parts for whatever reason. Was that the level of tech in making the precision tools was reflected in the signatures of the vase. So I gave the example of finding these vases in ancient Egypt would be like finding a precision part from anyone back in 1900. We would say the level of tech exceeded that time.
Though now you have said your GF made stuff down to 1,000th of an inch a more realistic timeline would be like finding a precision part during medieval times. We would say this is out of place.
It has also been suggested that some sort of fixed quartz cutter may have been used on a rotating granite object. Which I think is closest to what happened. Something along those lines due to the precision symmetry and circular conformity. Which we would expect from such witness marks.
But remember the idea of pounding and grinding by hand into shape is still being pushed. This seems almost a belief in the light of the evidence that some sort of lathe may have been used. BUt if some sort of lathe is proposed I am not disagreeing.
Yes I I thanked him for really being so basic and breaking down the steps as this is exactly what these tests are doing reverse engineering the steps as to what could achieve such signatures.
I agree that some sort of lathe was used and really thats all these testers are saying as to the witness marks. As you will not in the link of tests done at the Petrie museum on some of these vases. The signatures matched modern lathe precision tool marks and in some cases even better. But they did not match the handmade method. The precision was magnitudes greater.
BUt I am not sure if I agree that the contraption was so basic as described. I think some sort of packing or stability was used to keep the whole mechanism almost perfectly still. But also was able to sustain tremendous pressure to be able to cut reasonable deep. I mean we have trouble with modern tech to produce such results. Nevermind say back in 1800, or 1200 or 100AD.
If we take a step we are basically saying the Egyptians has some sort of mechanism that could mimick modern precision cutting that we have only recently developed into over a long period of progression and improvement. Yet somehow no matter how these ancient people that is predynastic or first dynasties could achieve this end result.
The initial metrologists were not looking for geometry and math. They were just doing the measures and data banking them. It was further analysis by others besides Dunn that found the mathmatical relations.
Plus like I said which you keep ignoring Dunn and his team were not the only ones. Dunn being a areospace engineer and having access to equipment did the guage metrology. But the links from 3D, Gamma and other light scanning at the Petrie museum was done by a seperate and independent team.
Your creating another ad hominem as there are independent testers who are coming to these same findings. The mathmatical relations were found from the data. Are you saying its just a coincident that many geometrical patterns like Pi, Phi, Flower of life which were common geometry in ancient times was just in the testers imagination. This geometry was not really there. Or is made out to be bigger than it is.
Yes and I have agreed that some sort of lathe device was used. Thats ok for uniform circularity. But how do necks and varying coaxiality down the vase to a precision within 1,000th of an inch say. Either the fixed point was able to move mechanically in and out without any deviation. Or as you say the near perfect varying coaxiality was hand rubbed into shape.
But then theres another problem. Because that varying coaxiality does not just vary to any shape. It is a perfect ellipsoid. Then the central boby itself the buldging part fits a perfect circle which happens to align perfectly with the curves of the handles when they meet. Then the Flower of life can just overlayed on the central circle and guss what. The petal points also aling perfectly with the junctions theese other shapes are found in the face. I have not even begun to mention how the virticles and horizontal relations, radials ect also match into the same geometry.
When you start seeing this math and geometry you begin to see how its not just lining up one unifrm round shape on a lathe. But something that could know all those relations prior as input and then be able to precisiely cut that out in 3D maintain all those tight parameters. That speaks CMC. Have you even gone into the metrology results. Or the methodology of the further analysis for the math. Math experts finding the math.
The problem is like I said. An artists is not the one who will make the tech that gives the precision on the lathe. These are two seperate industries. What you are more or less saying is the better the device is on controlling and being stable the better the result will be. But is that art or engineering.
I think the pics on the wall are basic and inadequate to explain such precision. Every experiment I have seen including the Russian guys which I like as they are good at it. They make some pretty good setups. But I still think inadequate and probaly close to the limits of this basic kind of setup. It needs to go to another level of sophistication is they are to achieve similar results. But then thats the tech not the rubbing or pounding.
I thought I did. Ok here they are again.
Precision and Classification of Predynastic Egyptian Stone Vessels: REVISED
The developed methodology for quantitatively analyzing 3D scans of archaeological artifacts enables the classification of objects into distinct quality categories. These categories reflect variations in the tools and fabrication techniques employed in their creation.
Precision and Classification of Predynastic Egyptian Stone Vessels: REVISED
Abstract Predynastic Egyptian stone vessels (c. 4000–3100 BCE) offer unique insight into the remarkable technological sophistication of a culture that significantly predates Egypt’s unification. Hu…
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Scanning a Predynastic Ancient Egyptian Vase down to 1000th of an Inch!
Initial Geometric Analysis of The Pre-Dynastic Vase
Geometric Analysis of The Pre-Dynastic Granite Artifact
An interesting geometrical analysis of an extremely precise and high-resolution mesh, obtained via structured light scanning of a granite artifact, that is purpoted to originate from pre-dynastic Egypt.
unsigned.io
Abstracts in Granite
Abstractions Set In Granite
This article will describe the preliminary results of our ongoing analysis of the Granite Artefact scan data, our CAD reconstruction, and some remarkable insights into the design of the object.
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