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Israel-Hamas Thread II
- By Benaiah468
- News & Current Events (Articles Required)
- 4937 Replies
For years, the emirate has presented itself as an indispensable mediator in the Middle East. But behind the shiny façade lies a long history of supporting Islamist groups: from Hamas to the Taliban, from the Muslim Brotherhood to networks in Europe. The Israeli attack on Hamas cadres in Doha exposes the illusion: Qatar is not a neutral mediator, but a key promoter of forces that undermine peace.
Following Israel's targeted strike against high-ranking Hamas representatives in Doha, Qatar's leadership is portraying itself as the victim. Prime Minister Abdulrahman al-Thani spoke of “barbarism” and “betrayal.” The message: Israel has violated the rules of diplomacy. But in reality, it is the rulers in Doha who have been speaking with a forked tongue for years. While they present themselves as supposed partners in Washington, Berlin, and Brussels, they court Islamists and offer them protection, money, and a political stage.
For over a decade, billions of dollars have been flowing from Qatar into the Gaza Strip. Officially, the funds were said to be used to pay salaries, run schools, and alleviate the humanitarian crisis. In reality, however, Qatar has been strengthening the rule of Hamas, which controls all administrative structures in Gaza. Anyone who pays salaries there is indirectly financing the terrorist organization that declared war on Israel and planned and carried out the massacre of Oct 7, 2023.
Even more seriously, Hamas has maintained an official office in Doha since 2012. For years, the political and military leadership was able to operate there undisturbed, protected by a regime that touts itself as a “mediator.” The fact that Western countries tolerated this is an expression of geopolitical convenience: they wanted to keep a channel of communication open with Hamas. But in effect, they made Qatar a safe haven for terrorist planners.
Qatar not only supports Hamas, but has also been supporting the Muslim Brotherhood, the ideological breeding ground for Islamist movements worldwide, for decades. The Taliban also found a home in Doha: in 2013, they opened their political office there, from where negotiations with the US were conducted. The fact that the Americans chose Qatar of all places as their stage was a mistake of historic proportions – because it ennobled an emirate that does not fight terrorist groups, but embraces them.
In Syria, Libya, and even Africa, Qatar has repeatedly protected Islamist militias. The method is always the same: extremist actors are given legitimacy and influence in order to portray themselves as indispensable mediators.
The consequences of this policy are felt not only by Israel and its neighbors. Qatar's support for the Muslim Brotherhood has strengthened networks that have long been deeply entrenched in Europe and North America. Mosque associations in Germany, clubs in France, lobby structures in Brussels, money often flows from Doha. Officially, this is support for culture, education, or religious freedom. In reality, however, narratives are being spread that undermine Western democracies and reinforce anti-Semitism.
In the US, Qatar buys influence through think tanks, sports sponsorship, and university funding. The methods are subtle, but the result is clear: Qatar is creating a sounding board for Islamist ideas – not on the fringes, but at the heart of Western societies.
The Israeli air strike in Doha was therefore not just an attempt to eliminate Hamas leaders. It was a blow against the double standards of Qatar, which presents itself as a “peace broker” while offering terrorist strategists a comfortable exile. The fact that the government in Doha now fears for its security shows the weakness of its model: soft power, major sporting events, and gas exports are no substitute for genuine responsibility.
Those who brand Israel as an aggressor must ask themselves: What about a country that courts Hamas and the Taliban?
What about an emirate that finances Islamist networks that threaten synagogues in Europe and radicalize universities in the US?
Qatar wants prestige and influence, wants to appear indispensable as a “mediator.” But this status comes at a high price, on the backs of those who suffer from terrorism. While Hamas fires rockets at Israel from Gaza, Doha presents itself as a force for peace. In reality, it is complicit in every further escalation because it protects terrorists rather than weakening them.
The hypocrisy must finally be called out: Qatar is not a bridge builder, but an accelerant (of islamism). Those in Europe or the US who turn a blind eye to this today are accepting that Islamist networks will continue to grow – and that terrorism from Gaza to Berlin has its supporters.
Following Israel's targeted strike against high-ranking Hamas representatives in Doha, Qatar's leadership is portraying itself as the victim. Prime Minister Abdulrahman al-Thani spoke of “barbarism” and “betrayal.” The message: Israel has violated the rules of diplomacy. But in reality, it is the rulers in Doha who have been speaking with a forked tongue for years. While they present themselves as supposed partners in Washington, Berlin, and Brussels, they court Islamists and offer them protection, money, and a political stage.
For over a decade, billions of dollars have been flowing from Qatar into the Gaza Strip. Officially, the funds were said to be used to pay salaries, run schools, and alleviate the humanitarian crisis. In reality, however, Qatar has been strengthening the rule of Hamas, which controls all administrative structures in Gaza. Anyone who pays salaries there is indirectly financing the terrorist organization that declared war on Israel and planned and carried out the massacre of Oct 7, 2023.
Even more seriously, Hamas has maintained an official office in Doha since 2012. For years, the political and military leadership was able to operate there undisturbed, protected by a regime that touts itself as a “mediator.” The fact that Western countries tolerated this is an expression of geopolitical convenience: they wanted to keep a channel of communication open with Hamas. But in effect, they made Qatar a safe haven for terrorist planners.
Qatar not only supports Hamas, but has also been supporting the Muslim Brotherhood, the ideological breeding ground for Islamist movements worldwide, for decades. The Taliban also found a home in Doha: in 2013, they opened their political office there, from where negotiations with the US were conducted. The fact that the Americans chose Qatar of all places as their stage was a mistake of historic proportions – because it ennobled an emirate that does not fight terrorist groups, but embraces them.
In Syria, Libya, and even Africa, Qatar has repeatedly protected Islamist militias. The method is always the same: extremist actors are given legitimacy and influence in order to portray themselves as indispensable mediators.
The consequences of this policy are felt not only by Israel and its neighbors. Qatar's support for the Muslim Brotherhood has strengthened networks that have long been deeply entrenched in Europe and North America. Mosque associations in Germany, clubs in France, lobby structures in Brussels, money often flows from Doha. Officially, this is support for culture, education, or religious freedom. In reality, however, narratives are being spread that undermine Western democracies and reinforce anti-Semitism.
In the US, Qatar buys influence through think tanks, sports sponsorship, and university funding. The methods are subtle, but the result is clear: Qatar is creating a sounding board for Islamist ideas – not on the fringes, but at the heart of Western societies.
The Israeli air strike in Doha was therefore not just an attempt to eliminate Hamas leaders. It was a blow against the double standards of Qatar, which presents itself as a “peace broker” while offering terrorist strategists a comfortable exile. The fact that the government in Doha now fears for its security shows the weakness of its model: soft power, major sporting events, and gas exports are no substitute for genuine responsibility.
Those who brand Israel as an aggressor must ask themselves: What about a country that courts Hamas and the Taliban?
What about an emirate that finances Islamist networks that threaten synagogues in Europe and radicalize universities in the US?
Qatar wants prestige and influence, wants to appear indispensable as a “mediator.” But this status comes at a high price, on the backs of those who suffer from terrorism. While Hamas fires rockets at Israel from Gaza, Doha presents itself as a force for peace. In reality, it is complicit in every further escalation because it protects terrorists rather than weakening them.
The hypocrisy must finally be called out: Qatar is not a bridge builder, but an accelerant (of islamism). Those in Europe or the US who turn a blind eye to this today are accepting that Islamist networks will continue to grow – and that terrorism from Gaza to Berlin has its supporters.
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When you think abortion is okay…
- By Lukaris
- The Kitchen Sink
- 44 Replies
In the 1990s, 31 states had bans on partial birth abortion while Roe v Wade stood. This was not enough of a balance so leftists ( my view of facts all the same) used the courts to nullify state legislation. Roe v Wade has been overturned and we have a hodgepodge on the national level. Just cause you say so is meaningless.
From the the non partisan American Governance Institute in a 2008 ( pre Dobbs) report:
Since 1995, at least thirty-one states have enacted laws banning the so-called "partial-birth" abortion procedure. Although many of these laws have not taken effect because of permanent injunctions, they remain contentious to both pro-life advocates and those who support a woman's right to choose.1 The concern over partial-birth abortion has been shared by Congress. Congress passed bans on the partial-birth abortion procedure in both the 104th and 105th Congresses.2Unable to overcome presidential vetoes during both congressional terms, the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act was reintroduced in each successive Congress until its enactment in 2003. S. 3, the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003, was passed by Congress in October 2003. The measure was signed by the President on November 5, 2003.
The U.S. Supreme Court has also addressed the performance of partial-birth abortions. In Stenberg v. Carhart, a 2000 case, the Court invalidated a Nebraska statute that prohibited the performance of such abortions. Prior to this decision, the U.S. Courts of Appeals remained divided on the legitimacy of state statutes banning partial-birth abortions.3 In Gonzales v. Carhart, a 2007 case, the Court upheld the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003, finding that, as a facial matter, it is not unconstitutionally vague and does not impose an undue burden on a woman's right to terminate her pregnancy.4 This report discusses the Court's decisions and the partial-birth abortion measures in the 106th, 107th, and 108th Congresses.
Partial-Birth Abortion: Recent Developments in the Law
The term “partial-birth abortion” refers generally to an abortion procedure where the fetus is removed intact from a woman’s body. The...
www.everycrsreport.com
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Glad there is an apology for an immoral statement
- By FreeinChrist
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- 22 Replies
Fox News host apologizes for remarks about killing mentally ill homeless people
Brian Kilmeade, co-host of 'Fox & Friends,' suggested 'involuntary legal injections' for people who refuse mental health care.
www.latimes.com
“Fox & Friends” co-host Brian Kilmeade apologized Sunday for remarks he made last week that suggested using involuntary lethal injections to get mentally ill homeless people off the streets.
Kilmeade’s comments came during a discussion last Wednesday on “Fox & Friends” about the Aug. 22 stabbing death of a 23-year-old Ukrainian refugee, Iryna Zarutska, on a light rail train in Charlotte, N.C......
“A lot of them don’t want to take the programs,” Jones said. “A lot of them don’t want to get the help that is necessary. You can’t give them the choice. Either you take the resources that we’re going to give you, or you decide that you’ve got to be locked up in jail.”
Kilmeade added: “Or involuntary lethal injection or something — just kill ‘em.”
He apologizes now but those words were all over social media. But he did apologize.
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