RamiC said:

Is there a way to check on people for a history of violent crime in Russia? Should somebody have done that?

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This was ignored during the ordination under unclear circumstances. Sergius himself claims that Patriarch Alexy in 2001 personally blessed him, despite his criminal record. But Sergius's words, of course, cannot be trusted.

There was a flying saucer in my house just today. Wife was putting away dishes and noticed I hadn't taken out the trash.

Aldebaran said:

The Republicans are indeed using one of the options available to them. They are all voting in unison to reopen the government.
Perhaps the Democrats should consider using that option. It only takes 5 of them. I'm sure they can manage that.

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ok....and the other 3 or 4?

It's funny how you keep trying to shift blame when Republicans, again, have FAR more power in this situation to feed the poor.

RDKirk said:

And that was a result of the Fall. That is disarmed in the Body of Christ.

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No, absolutely not. Wife was created for her husband before the Fall, not the other way around. That's why she naturally submits to her husband. Scripture clearly teaches this:

“Neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. That is why a wife ought to have a symbol of authority on her head“ (1 Kor 11:9-10)

So, this was before the Fall. And after the Fall husbands began to discriminate against women by abusing the power they had.

guevaraj said:

Brother, I agree with you that I wouldn't believe it because your interpretation is figurative, referring to "rest" as Jesus, and mine is literal, referring to "rest" as the Sabbath. To show you the difference, I asked ChatGPT: "When both are possible, which is correct: a literal or figurative interpretation?"

ChatGPT said:​

Good question — and the answer depends on context and intent.
Here’s how to think about it:

• If a literal interpretation makes sense and fits the context, that’s usually the correct one.
  • Example: “He ran to the store.” → literally means he physically ran.
• If a literal reading seems absurd, impossible, or out of place, a figurative interpretationis probably intended.
  • Example: “He ran out of time.” → not literal; you can’t physically run out of time.

Writers, speakers, and interpreters often follow this principle:

So, literal first, figurative if necessary — unless the context (like poetry, metaphorical writing, or symbolic speech) clearly signals otherwise.
Would you like me to explain how this applies in a specific field — for example, literature, law, or theology?

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

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Nice, but you are still misreading the text. Ask Chat GPT about confirmation bias.

SabbathBlessings said:

I think the disconnect is what is flowing from Christ.

You seem to think from what I can tell, that Christ is not enabling us to keep His commandments, but what we feel is right or wrong.

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“I think many sincere believers desire to keep the Ten Commandments out of love for God, and that’s commendable. Yet sometimes, it’s easy to rely on our own sense of what ‘keeping them’ looks like, rather than seeing how the gospel reshapes our understanding of the law. Scripture reminds us that nothing less than perfect obedience would meet the law’s standard (James 2:10), which is why we all need Christ’s righteousness, not our own (Romans 3:20-22).


I don’t say this to criticize, but to point out that we can each develop our own version of Sabbath-keeping that feels right to us, even when it may not align perfectly with what Scripture teaches about finding our rest and fulfillment in Christ (Colossians 2:16-17; Matthew 11:28). My hope is simply that we all keep looking to Jesus—the only One who ever truly kept the law perfectly—and allow His Spirit to fulfill it in us.”

SabbathBlessings said:

When you say observe a particular practice, I am assuming you mean the Sabbath since that's what this thread is about, so from what I can tell you are teaching that if we are in Christ we no longer have to keep the commandments of God the way God said including this particular practice, but that's not what Jesus ever said, He taught plainly the opposite. John14:15 John15:10 Mat`5:3-14 Mark 7:7-13 Mat5:19-30 Mat 19:17-19 Mat 12:12 Mark2:27 Mat4:4

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“I appreciate your sincerity in wanting to honor God’s Sabbath, but I don’t believe the way you observe it fully reflects how God has revealed it in His Word. Also, it’s important to remember that in the passages you’ve mentioned, the law had not yet been fulfilled—Christ’s work was still in progress. The fulfillment came when He declared on the cross, ‘It is finished’ (John 19:30). That moment marked the completion of what the law pointed toward and what only He could accomplish. I share this not to argue, but to remind us both that our rest and righteousness are found in His finished work, not in our ability to keep the law perfectly.”

SabbathBlessings said:

If we are in Christ abiding in Him this is what is flowing out of us. Love to God that we want to obey Him and abide in His love because we love Him.

John 15:10 If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.

So if we are loving Christ and abiding in Him, one is also keeping His commandments so there would be no disconnect with Christ our Savior His Laws He asks us to keep if we love Him.

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“I appreciate what you’re saying about love leading to obedience — that’s a beautiful truth. I would just add, that when Jesus spoke of ‘My commandments’ in John 15:10, He wasn’t referring specifically to the Ten Commandments given through Moses, but to His own teachings — the words He gave His disciples while He was with them (John 14:21, 23-24).


His commandments center on faith in Him and love toward others (John 13:34; 1 John 3:23). Today, that same obedience continues as we walk in the Spirit, listening to His leading and allowing His life to be expressed through us (Romans 8:4; Galatians 5:16-18). The Christian life isn’t about going back under the letter of the law, but about living out the Spirit of Christ’s teachings day by day.”

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If you knew someone that was committing adultery, would you encourage them to continue in that path even though we are told sin separates us from Christ Isa 59:2 unless we have a change in heart and a change in direction, means putting away that sin. The thing is I do not think God separated the 4th commandment from the other 9 commandments, Deyt 4:13 Exo 34:28 James2:11 man did this, not God. So encouraging someone that they do not have to keep a particular practice that is contrary to the law of God is no different than someone committing adultery or breaking any of God's commandments.

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“I completely agree that sin separates us from God and that repentance means turning away from what is wrong and walking in newness of life (Isaiah 59:2; Romans 6:1-4). But I think we need to be careful not to equate every difference in understanding of the law with open rebellion against God.


The moral principles behind the Ten Commandments are eternal — love for God and love for others — but the covenantal form of the law, including the Sabbath as given to Israel, pointed forward to something greater. Scripture says that Christ fulfilled the law (Matthew 5:17) and that in Him, believers enter God’s true rest (Hebrews 4:9-10). The New Testament never presents Sabbath observance as a test of loyalty to God, but rather invites us to rest in Christ’s finished work (Colossians 2:16-17). This is the fullfillment of the 4th commanment by Christ.


So encouraging someone to rest in Christ rather than to follow a particular day of observance isn’t like condoning adultery or lawlessness — it’s pointing them toward the One who fulfilled the law perfectly and empowers us to live righteously through the Spirit (Romans 8:3-4; Galatians 5:18).”

SabbathBlessings said:

Jesus fulfilling the law to mean we do not have to keep God's commandments as clearly Jesus stated the opposite Mat5:19 is not something that can be reconciled in our Bibles. Jesus fulfilled the law in what He was prophesized to do, make the law greater not lessor. Isa42:21 He fulfilled it showing how we keep God's laws, like fulfilling a wedding covenant. He never fulfilled is so we can profane them. Its kept for God's faithful until the end Rev22:14

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“I think there’s been some misunderstanding, and I want to be clear that no one here is advocating disobedience to God’s law. Scripture teaches that God’s moral standards still reflect His character, and those who love Him will naturally desire to obey (John 14:15).

The difference is in how that obedience is lived out. Jesus didn’t fulfill the law so that we could break it, but so that its righteous requirement could be fulfilled in us through the Spirit (Romans 8:3–4). The law was powerless to make us righteous, but Christ accomplished what it could not.

When we say the law was fulfilled, we’re not saying it was abolished or made meaningless — we’re saying that Christ completed its purpose, revealing its true intent in love and faith (Galatians 5:14). The heart of obedience now flows from being united with Him, not from striving to earn righteousness on our own.

So we’re not rejecting God’s commands — we’re embracing them in the way Christ Himself enables: through His Spirit, by faith, from the heart.”

SabbathBlessings said:

I am not sure if I am interested in pursuing this conversation further because I think we both have made up on minds on this topic and at this point, we will just need to wait until Jesus comes back to sort it all out. He will soon enough. Rev22:11

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Dikaioumenoi said:

That directly contradicts what verse 37 says: "All that the Father gives me will come to me." The giving precedes the coming.


That's exactly what it says, almost verbatim...

What do you understand "coming" to mean?


Can you please interact with post #35? Particularly the middle and latter portions on John 6:44, 45.

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God draws, The Holy Spirit teaches (Jesus is The Messiah) and people respond by either believing in Jesus for Eternal Life or they do not believe

Nope God has foreknowledge so God know who will believe in Jesus and who will not so God. So God has already given the believers He knows will believe in Jesus, to Jesus.

That has noting to do with God electing a specific amount of people to Eternal Life. There is no verse in The Bible that states God elects people to Eternal Life.

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Benaiah468 said:

If Hamas propaganda is to be believed. Everyone there is a terrorist. There are no innocent civilians in Gaza, not a single one. They simply do not exist.

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Speaking of propaganda, that's some pretty blatant stuff.

partinobodycular said:

Wow, brilliant rebuttal.

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What more rebuttal is needed? Either he packs the conclusion into the premises by inserting the moral value that is supposedly being violated into the premises themselves, or there is no relationship between the premises and the conclusion. Either way, it's not a valid argument and presenting it as such is sophistry.

Aldebaran said:

The fact remains that the Republican spending bill passed in the House and awaits the cooperation of just five Democrats to keep the government funded and funds flowing to the poor, and to all of the federal workers who are now working without pay. The Democrats need to stop using the poor as leverage.

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Or the Republicans could just feed the poor with one of the options available to them. Then Dems wouldn't even be ABLE to use the poor as leverage and you'd take away a bargaining chip.

IF you ACTUALLY wanted to help the poor....

guevaraj said:

Brother, Jesus wants us to keep the corrected Sabbath "day", different than the human tradition of Judaism, which considers the Sabbath the seventh day of the week since Joshua, when in Jerusalem the Sabbath falls half a day before the seventh day of the week.

Now if Joshua had succeeded in giving them this rest, God would not have spoken about another day of rest still to come. (Hebrews 4:8 NLT)​

It is here, in the context where the language used by God expresses its importance to Jesus, that we keep the Sabbath correctly.

God’s promise of entering his rest still stands, so we ought to tremble with fear that some of you might fail to experience it. For this good news—that God has prepared this rest—has been announced to us just as it was to them. But it did them no good because they didn’t share the faith of those who listened to God. For only we who believe can enter his rest. As for the others, God said, “In my anger I took an oath: ‘They will never enter my place of rest,’” even though this rest has been ready since he made the world. We know it is ready because of the place in the Scriptures where it mentions the seventh day: “On the seventh day God rested from all his work.” But in the other passage God said, “They will never enter my place of rest.” So God’s rest is there for people to enter, but those who first heard this good news failed to enter because they disobeyed God. So God set another time for entering his rest, and that time is today. GOD ANNOUNCED THIS THROUGH DAVID MUCH LATER in the words already quoted: “Today when you hear his voice, don’t harden your hearts.” Now IF JOSHUA HAD SUCCEEDED IN GIVING THEM THIS REST, GOD WOULD NOT HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT ANOTHER DAY of rest still to come. So there is a special rest still waiting for the people of God. For all who have entered into God’s rest have rested from their labors, just as God did after creating the world. So let us do our best to enter that rest. But if we disobey God, as the people of Israel did, we will fall. (Hebrews 4:1-11 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

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Brother, Heb. 4 relates to entering into Jesus rest as Lord not about the sabbath rest.

In order to understand Heb. 4 you have to start with the latter part of Heb. 3 because Heb. 4 begins with “therefore” which is a conclusion arrived at from what was written before.

“And with whom was He angry for forty years? Was it not with those who sinned, whose dead bodies fell in the wilderness? And to whom did He swear that they would not enter His rest, but to those who were disobedient? And so we see that they were not able to enter because of unbelief.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭3‬:‭17‬-‭19‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

The end of chapter 3 explains how the sin of Israel led to the bodies in the wilderness and why that did not enter His rest which was unbelief. We know that the law is not of faith (Gal. 3:12).

“Therefore, we must fear if, while a promise remains of entering His rest, any one of you may seem to have come short of it.”
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The beginning of chapter 4 is an attention getter because it includes the writer’s present audience of believers.

“For indeed we have had good news preached to us, just as they also did; but the word they heard did not benefit them, because they were not united with those who listened with faith.”
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The Jews did not heed the gospel of good news and remain in disobedience and their sins so they belong in the group described at the end of chapter 3. Those who heard and accepted the gospel of good news are of faith and NOT united to those that are not of faith.

“For we who have believed enter that rest, just as He has said, “As I swore in My anger, They certainly shall not enter My rest,” although His works were finished from the foundation of the world.”
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Only those of faith enter Jesus rest. This understanding governs the rest of chapter 4. And to top it off the new promises are for a new covenant. So nothing here supports the keeping of the sabbath as it was in the old covenant and it is not part of the new covenant.

Now, my request still stands. Please post a post crucifixion verse that requires the Christian to keep the 4th commandment.

Vanellus said:

Israel will keep killing Palestinians, ceasefire or no, unless it faces consequences

Though I think it's being optimistic to think that cultural and sporting boycotts will stop Israel wantonly killing many more Palestinians.

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If Hamas propaganda is to be believed. Everyone there is a terrorist. There are no innocent civilians in Gaza, not a single one. They simply do not exist. These are families controlled by Hamas. These are children who, from the moment they are born, are taught that Israel belongs to "Palestine" and that Jews must be hated. The fact that the media occasionally point out the unreliability of the figures they present to the public does not make things any better: they continue to disseminate figures from sources they know full well are lying, thereby playing into the hands of Hamas, whose only survival strategy is to increase international pressure to force Israel to stop fighting Hamas. A large proportion of the death toll does not come from civilian casualties, but rather from Hamas fighters who have been killed. But this is still far from enough. Hamas still has 15,000-25,000 fighters underground and continues to recruit thousands for jihad, including numerous children.

Dan Perez said:

And just not answer , since you say that I am to hard to FOLLOW. so do not say anything and if anyone doe answer I

will speak to them. ,

And 2 different posters have asked what the AORIST TENSE means and explained what it means and how. easy it is to.

learn how TO. understand how learn and I just write them down OR , just GOOGLE THEM , so GOODBY !!

dan p

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Always in His Presence said:

I already answered this.

Your posting style is so disjointed I can’t follow your reasoning.

Again if you would just state things plainly I could answer them more concisely.

You are just to hard to follow.

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And just not answer , since you say that I am to hard to FOLLOW. so do not say anything and if anyone doe answer I

will speak to them. ,

And 2 different posters have asked what the AORIST TENSE means and explained what it means and how. easy it is to.

learn how TO. understand how learn and I just write them down OR , just GOOGLE THEM , and will Teach

only those that want to LEARN , so GOODBY !!

dan p

Clare73 said:

If they are spiritually dead, they can do nothing spiritual.

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Oh you mean like the Corinthians in 1 Corinthians 3. The same Corinthians believers that Paul was addressing in chapter 2?

Always in His Presence said:

You don’t even read your own links do you!

From the link

They’d long believed Howie’s service on the Capitol Police was harming his health, and they’d repeatedly urged him to quit

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Lol.
Good for you and your quote mining!

Three days had passed since the riot. Three days and still Capitol Police Officer Howie Liebengood’s brother and sister hadn’t spoken to him. They knew he’d made it through without any physical injuries, but they worried about how the attack and its aftermath had impacted him psychologically.

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First paragraph. Before your quotemine

Always in His Presence said:

You really want me to believe you have read the man’s suicide note?

Give me a break.

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No but his family did and that is what they believe. Why would you CHOOSE to ignore them?

Are you telling me you can't trust his family to tell the truth because it's uncomfortable....for YOU?


Read the article.

rambot said:

Whoever told you that is clearly a liar. It's ridiculous, and insulting to their memory that you ignore the truth that their family tells about them.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/01/06/jan-6-officer-howie-liebengood-00195463
The selfie that proved a cop died in the line of duty
It's disgusting what people are willing to say and argue because it runs counter to their belief about something they know nothing about.


IT's like Sandy Hook all over again except with adults.

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You don’t even read your own links do you!

From the link

They’d long believed Howie’s service on the Capitol Police was harming his health, and they’d repeatedly urged him to quit

That is the truth the family shared. Please don’t ignore it for a political position.

The way I see it, the CR is there to pay the bills and keep the doors open. When paying the bills, you do not add extra spending. It is like having an envelope to hold your monthly expenses, and your husband adds a bill for a four-wheeler. "We are not paying the bills until I get a 4-wheeler!" So we don't pay the bills. The water gets shut off, the electricity gets shut off, and the mortgage goes into default. You can have a four-wheeler... but not out of the monthly expenses.

rambot said:

Suicide notes left to loved ones helped.

Although maybe you can't trust a suicide note if it runs counter to your convinient beliefs.

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You really want me to believe you have read the man’s suicide note?

Give me a break.

essentialsaltes said:

A judge appears to agree. Though the benefits (if she so rules) will be late and likely smaller than the full amount.

Judge indicates she’ll intervene in fight over SNAP food assistance money​

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Judge orders administration to distribute SNAP contingency money amid shutdown​

"The court is orally at this time, ordering that USDA must distribute the contingency money timely, or as soon as possible, for the November 1 payments to be made," said U.S. District Judge John J. McConnell Jr.

Ruling that stopping SNAP funding violated the Administrative Procedure Act because the funding decision was arbitrary and capricious, Judge McConnell said, "There has been no explanation, legitimate or otherwise that's consistent with the APA as to why the contingency funds should not be used."

The ruling came as a federal judge in Boston, in a separate case, ruled that the Trump administration's attempt to suspend SNAP funding is "unlawful," but declined to immediately order that the program be funded.

YeshuaFan said:

If there was the actual Second coming in AD 70, would have had physical resurrection of all saved, and would now be in a paradise earth

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Daniel 12:2
And many who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake, some to everlasting life, but others to shame and everlasting contempt.

The Resurrection Body

35But someone will ask, “How are the dead raised? With what kind of body will they come?” 36You fool! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies. 37And what you sow is not the body that will be, but just a seed, perhaps of wheat or something else. 38But God gives it a body as He has designed, and to each kind of seed He gives its own body.

The resurrection has a destination, and that destination is to eternal life, that is to heaven. So, if the resurrection is to eternal life and it is not the body that goes into the ground as Paul says, then to claim that it is physical is to also claim that heaven is a physical earth like kingdom.
So, where do you get the idea that heaven is a physical earth like kingdom? And what physical body are you talking abouit?

UN accuses US of breaching international law with deadly airstrikes on boats in Caribbean and Pacific​

The attacks have killed over 60 people, according to U.S. officials.

"These attacks – and their mounting human cost – are unacceptable. The U.S. must halt such attacks and take all measures necessary to prevent the extrajudicial killing of people aboard these boats, whatever the criminal conduct alleged against them," Türk said.

"Under international human rights law, the intentional use of lethal force is only permissible as a last resort against individuals who pose an imminent threat to life," he added. "Based on the very sparse information provided publicly by the U.S. authorities, none of the individuals on the targeted boats appeared to pose an imminent threat to the lives of others or otherwise justified the use of lethal armed force against them under international law."

Tigran1245 said:

The answer depends on what the word "patriarchy" means. If we're talking about the headship of a husband over a wife in the family, or the headship of men in the spiritual hierarchy of the priesthood, then yes, God clearly desires absolute patriarchy. But not a servile patriarchy, where one is humiliated, but a patriarchy of love: analogous to how we submit to God. “The head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.” (1 Kor 11:3)

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And that was a result of the Fall. That is disarmed in the Body of Christ.

Tigran1245 said:

If we're talking about state power or public activity, there's no difference between men and women.

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For the Body of Christ, it's only because of state power that we might be obligated to put up a facade of respecting sexual and cultural differences.