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Hentenza · 2025-10-30T18:28:27-0500

Bro.T said:
Paul say in (1 Tim.4: 1) Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; The first day of the week, as the Sabbath day, is the doctrine of the devil. Satan is always trying to mimic God. So if it is not of God then it is of Satan. So if the seventh day Sabbath (Saturday) is a sign between God and His people. Then the first day (Sunday) is a sign between somebody and his people. You can’t have it both ways you are either in or out. Paul says in 2 Corinthians 11: 4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

Also Paul say in (1 Cor.10:20-22) (v.20) “and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils”. (v.21) Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils. (v.22) Do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? are we stronger than he?

Just about everybody in my family goes to church on Sunday. Even I used too, until I read the scriptures and researched the history of Sunday worship. Until I read the bible for myself I was in the dark.

Now here’s your chance to come into the light. (1Peter: 2:9) “that ye should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light:” Open your eyes sisters and brothers and see. Let no man deceive you. As it is written in (Rev12:9) And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. Satan through man (Religious Teaching) has deceived the whole world.

ORIGIN OF SUNDAY WORSHIP

Ample evidence from history shows that the celebration of Sunday originated from pagan practices of SUN WORSHIP. In March of 321 A.D., the Roman Emperor Constantine, who was at first a sun-worshiper and later a Christian convert, issued the first decree declaring Sunday to be a legal day of rest. In 336 A.D., the Roman Catholic Church officially changed the observance of Sabbath to Sunday for political and economic expediency. Since then, the original Sabbath gradually gave way to Sunday observance and the practice remains to this day.

The Catholic authorities proclaim: "The Bible says, 'Remember that thou keep holy the Sabbath day.' The Catholic Church says, No! By my divine power I abolish the Sabbath day, and command you to keep the first day of the week. And lo, the entire civilized world bows down in reverent obedience to the command of the holy Catholic Church!" Father Enright, C.S.S.R. of the Redemptoral College, Kansas City, Mo., as taken from History of the Sabbath. pg. 802

The Biblical Sabbath, however, is and has always been on the seventh day of the week, or Saturday. Despite the prevalence of Sunday worship in Christendom, we must look to the Bible as our authority and keep the seventh day Sabbath ordained by God.

Go into your history books and prove me wrong, I challenge you to do so. Sisters and brothers I pray that you read your bibles for yourselves and pray for understanding.

And don’t let some unlearned false preacher deceive you. The Sabbath of the Lord has, and will always be the seventh day of the week (sunset Friday to sunset Saturday) and has not been changed. I know that some will say, well we don’t know if the seventh day in Jesus time is the same seventh day now. Well the bible says: (Mat 28:1) In the end of the Sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre. Now this proves that in Jesus day when the Sabbath (Saturday) ended the first day of the week (Sunday) began. Guess what? In our day when the seventh day ends the first day of the week begins, no change!

All you have to do to prove your case is to post a post crucifixion verse that teaches that the 4th commandment is required of the Christian. That’s it, after all, after the wall of text that you just posted here you should be able to provide such a verse without any problems.

friend of · 2025-10-30T18:27:27-0500

Gregory Thompson said:
Trump is quite the mess, take an international census poll.

Please. He's literally dominating the world for America. He's a strongman.

Mercy Shown · 2025-10-30T18:26:57-0500

SabbathBlessings said:
We are not in a theocracy, judgement is in the last day, we all have to stand before Jesus one day soon John 14:28 2 Cor5:10 Ecc12:13-14

Ok then, that argument can also be used in regards to the Ten Commandments, They were givien in a theocracy under the old covenent and we are no longer a theocracy and we are under a new covenent.

SabbathBlessings said:
Lets address the accusation in the garden because this is what was said:

God said
Gen 2:17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.”

The devil said the opposite that we can disobey God and live , the same lie he continues to deceive millions if not billions

Gen 3:4 Then the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die.

The sepant said more than that.
Gen 3:3 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”

2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”

4 “You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5 “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. 7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.

Here is my outline of what the serpant was implying:

“Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”

Implied that God is either mistaken about what He said or that His words have been exaggerated. (The question misquotes/magnifies the command.)
Implied that God is overly restrictive or unreasonable — He forbids everything rather than giving freedom.
Implied that God’s command is open to doubt or reinterpretation (invites Eve to question God’s authority and accuracy).
Implied that God is the kind of authority whose rules can be disputed or challenged.

“You will not certainly die.”

Implied that God lied or is wrong about the consequences He announced (i.e., God’s warning is untrue).
Implied that God’s threats are empty — He cannot or will not carry out what He says.
Implied that God’s moral authority is unreliable (so Eve need not fear disobedience).
Implied that God’s knowledge about death/consequence is limited or mistaken.

“For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

Implied that God is withholding something valuable (knowledge, wisdom, divine status) from humans out of selfishness or fear.
Implied that God is jealous, afraid, or insecure about humans becoming like Him (i.e., God wants to keep humans inferior).
Implied that God intentionally limits human potential to keep power or privilege.
Implied that God’s motive for the prohibition is control rather than genuine care (the ban is portrayed as a power-preserving restriction).
Also subtly flatters Eve by promising elevation (be “like God”), implying that God is the obstacle to human fulfillment.

SabbathBlessings said:
God is love, its why I believe His judgement is one of love. Jesus died for the sins of the entire world that's how much He loves us. His wish is that no one perish but has everlasting life. However God who is love is not going to force someone to obey Him, it has to come from our heart. He never lets go of us, we let go of Him when we choose sin over abiding in Him. Sin is so deceitful and harmful, the only way to remove it is to remove all sin and sinners once and for all. He desires each one of us to come to Him and submit to His will, not because He is a tyrant, because He knows what's best for us. Many instead of going to Jesus seeking His help in overcoming like their sins more than they love Jesus to helps us overcome. He doesn't even make us obey on our own John14:15-18 but we have to cooperate with Him.

John 3:6 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. 21 But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”

Why the Ten Commandments is so important, they show us our sins and our true condition so we can seek His help in cleansing us, which means repenting, turning from sin, walking in a new direction Rom 6:1-4

John 15:4 Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.
5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. 6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you[b] will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you. 8 By this My Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit; so you will be My disciples.
9 “As the Father loved Me, I also have loved you; abide in My love. 10 If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.

God's Judgement is one of love because He is not going to make one live in eternity doing something they were so against in this world, including keeping the Sabbath for worship, which continues forever thus saith the Lord Isa66:22-23 God is not going to let people profane Him in the New Heaven and New Earth Eze22:26. If it was okay to do so, Lucifer and his angels would have not been kicked out.

Sin destroyed this world. The only way to get rid of it is to destroy the source and those who follow that source over following God. 1John3:8 God wants us to come to Him, but many do in name Luke6:46, not actions because they really do not want to change their ways, that's why Jesus will have to sort out the wheat from the tares at His return, because one person who refuses to let go of their sins impacts the entire flock and we are right back where we started. Jesus promised that's not going to happen, so in His longsuffering He is giving man time to make decisions who we are going to serve, which is who we obey Rom6:16. Soon though when everyone has made their choices and there is no more opportunity to sway them one way or the other, our decisions will be sealed Rev22:11 and Jesus will restore every everything back to His perfect plan for His faithful Rev22:14

How do you get past the fsct that God is killing them eternally because they don't love Him?

Dikaioumenoi · 2025-10-30T18:25:38-0500

d taylor said:
The Father gives believers to Jesus, He the Father would not give unbelievers.

That directly contradicts what verse 37 says: "All that the Father gives me will come to me." The giving precedes the coming.

d taylor said:
Nothing in the verse states that all The Father gives Me. they will then believe in Me

That's exactly what it says, almost verbatim...

What do you understand "coming" to mean?

d taylor said:
God also knows already who will believe in Jesus for Etrenal Life, but that does not mean God has elected certain people to eternal life.

Can you please interact with post #35? Particularly the middle and latter portions on John 6:44, 45.

Hentenza · 2025-10-30T18:24:29-0500

Jerry N. said:
We are not obliged under the New Covenant, but we may choose to do what is good under the Old Covenant. I choose to keep the Sabbath, because God said that it was good to keep that day holy.

And there is absolutely nothing unbiblical about that. No one should judge you if you want to keep it. That is what Col, 2:16 teaches. However, some of the sabbath keepers posting here actually judge those that choose not to keep the sabbath and accuse them of living in sin. That is totally unbiblical.

Bro.T · 2025-10-30T18:22:33-0500

Paul say in (1 Tim.4: 1) Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; The first day of the week, as the Sabbath day, is the doctrine of the devil. Satan is always trying to mimic God. So if it is not of God then it is of Satan. So if the seventh day Sabbath (Saturday) is a sign between God and His people. Then the first day (Sunday) is a sign between somebody and his people. You can’t have it both ways you are either in or out. Paul says in 2 Corinthians 11: 4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

Also Paul say in (1 Cor.10:20-22) (v.20) “and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils”. (v.21) Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils. (v.22) Do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? are we stronger than he?

Just about everybody in my family goes to church on Sunday. Even I used too, until I read the scriptures and researched the history of Sunday worship. Until I read the bible for myself I was in the dark.

Now here’s your chance to come into the light. (1Peter: 2:9) “that ye should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light:” Open your eyes sisters and brothers and see. Let no man deceive you. As it is written in (Rev12:9) And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. Satan through man (Religious Teaching) has deceived the whole world.

ORIGIN OF SUNDAY WORSHIP

Ample evidence from history shows that the celebration of Sunday originated from pagan practices of SUN WORSHIP. In March of 321 A.D., the Roman Emperor Constantine, who was at first a sun-worshiper and later a Christian convert, issued the first decree declaring Sunday to be a legal day of rest. In 336 A.D., the Roman Catholic Church officially changed the observance of Sabbath to Sunday for political and economic expediency. Since then, the original Sabbath gradually gave way to Sunday observance and the practice remains to this day.

The Catholic authorities proclaim: "The Bible says, 'Remember that thou keep holy the Sabbath day.' The Catholic Church says, No! By my divine power I abolish the Sabbath day, and command you to keep the first day of the week. And lo, the entire civilized world bows down in reverent obedience to the command of the holy Catholic Church!" Father Enright, C.S.S.R. of the Redemptoral College, Kansas City, Mo., as taken from History of the Sabbath. pg. 802

The Biblical Sabbath, however, is and has always been on the seventh day of the week, or Saturday. Despite the prevalence of Sunday worship in Christendom, we must look to the Bible as our authority and keep the seventh day Sabbath ordained by God.

Go into your history books and prove me wrong, I challenge you to do so. Sisters and brothers I pray that you read your bibles for yourselves and pray for understanding.

And don’t let some unlearned false preacher deceive you. The Sabbath of the Lord has, and will always be the seventh day of the week (sunset Friday to sunset Saturday) and has not been changed. I know that some will say, well we don’t know if the seventh day in Jesus time is the same seventh day now. Well the bible says: (Mat 28:1) In the end of the Sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre. Now this proves that in Jesus day when the Sabbath (Saturday) ended the first day of the week (Sunday) began. Guess what? In our day when the seventh day ends the first day of the week begins, no change!

Hentenza · 2025-10-30T18:19:49-0500

SabbathBlessings said:
As long as God is our Creator Exo20:11 and Santifer Eze20:12 and we are told to worship this God Rev 14:7 and never once did He abrogate His 4th commandment in the entire Bible, He said to Remember, my faith is in Him and not teachings of man. When God claimed the Ten Commandments as His Deut4:13 Exo 20:6 its God's Testimony Exo31:18 it means no mans teachings are greater.

We have free will and this will be sorted out at His soon return. We just need to prepare ourselves for our decision and where that leads one Rom6:16 Rev 22:11 Mat7:21-23 Rev22:14-15

Until you prove that the 4th commandment is required of the Christian your argument is just repetition of what has already been refuted. You are only one verse away from proving your argument. All you have to do is post a post crucifixion verse that teaches that the Christian is required to keep the 4th commandment. That’s it no less and no more.

Ophiolite · 2025-10-30T18:19:01-0500

2PhiloVoid said:
For one of us it did. I just don't accept the insinuation that I suffer from some form of Narcissism. To me, to toss that sort of atribution out toward another person like it's just so much low hanging fruit is a typical leftist form of rhetoric.

But, I'll take it with a grain of salt, extend you an olive branch and apply a little grace by not too firmly assuming you actually had such an insinuation in mind.

I missed this when first posted. I apologise, it seems my British reticence was overdone and the end result unclear. No insinuation was intended. My complaint, however, was not of any narcissism, but too many instances of lack of substance. Lot's of building materials and fragments of plans and authorisations, just no construction at the end of it that people could move into.

The olive branch was a nice gesture, but I'm not sure the Scottish climate is favourable for olives.

Mercy Shown · 2025-10-30T18:16:17-0500

JulieB67 said:
Yes, this is the thing that always baffles me. We are to love God with all our heart, mind and soul. That would definitely be 24/7 (not just one day of the week) And of course in this day and age especially all fall short of this from time to time because other matters fill the mind, etc. So who hasn't broken this commandment as well as love our neighbors as our selves from time to time. We are to strive for those but no one will ever be perfect in the flesh. Thankfully God is the heart knower.

And people always confuse the fact that the Sabbath was made for man -man's rest. And today we are to be in Christ's rest 24/7. That's where our abode is.

And I find these debates usually fall to the subject of what day should one go to church and worship. It's as you stated in this thread I think most focus on that and not what the Sabbath really entailed back then.

The Sabbath was set as example of rest after work. And Christ did the work on the cross (fulfilling the law) and that's where we find our rest. It's not about some day of the week at this point. But some people see Hebrews 4 differently. But there's a clear difference between sabbaton (the weekly repose) and sabbatismos- and that's the one that remains.

Very well put

Fervent · 2025-10-30T18:15:44-0500

Bradskii said:
I'll just repost that from close to the start of the thread (thank you Oompa). It's the definition that is common wherever you might want to look. It states quite clearly that if an action is right or wrong regardless of context, culture, or circumstances then it cannot be a case of relative morality.

I'm absolutely certain that the following basic question will not be answered. But that's exactly why I want it here. The next time a thread starts on relative morality I'll be able to point to this post to indicate that asking such a basic question is a worthless exercise.

'Please give me an action that you can determine to be right or wrong that disregards context, culture or circumstances'.

Actions which are described in a way that already contains the circumstances are invalid, such as murder (killing an innocent person in a premeditated manner, as opposed to killing in self defence) and rape (sexual intercourse without consent, as opposed to sexual intercourse with consent). This has already been discussed.

This seems to be setting up a false dilemma between relativistic morality and deontological absolutes while ignoring a plethora of conceptual frameworks for absolute morality that don't depend on deontological structures. The only thing that matters in an absolute morality is that there is an actual right and an actual wrong, rather than right and wrong being purely in the eye of the beholder.

Bradskii said:
All of them. You can't hold to any moral principle without having a reason to do so.

Are you intentionally conflating the meaning of "reason" or do you truly not understand that your usage and @o_mlly usage are not the same? Is it intentional intellectual dishonesty, or do you just not comprehend that even if the same word is used the concept in mind can be vastly different?

Anonymous9090 · 2025-10-30T18:14:51-0500

Pray that Andrew Mountbatten Windsor (formerly Prince Andrew) finds Salvation in Jesus Christ as he is now an outcast of the Royal family:

Prince Andrew stripped of 'prince' title and will move out of Royal Lodge

Buckingham Palace says he will now been known as Andrew Mountbatten Windsor. Virginia Giuffre's family say she has "brought down a British prince".

www.bbc.com

Bradskii · 2025-10-30T18:13:59-0500

essentialsaltes said:
As the ongoing shutdown of the federal government nears its 30th day, a new Yahoo/YouGov poll shows that nearly twice as many Americans want it to end with Democrats getting their way rather than Republicans.

Only 26% of Americans, meanwhile, approve of how President Trump has been handling the shutdown. A full 65% disapprove.

Checks again to see when the midterms are due.

Dan Perez · 2025-10-30T18:06:42-0500

Gregory Thompson said:
Well, if that's what you think of yourself.

And what does that mean as I . presented exactly what that verse said to all. with all. the English words. and its Greek words

and all will. see that L did not ADD. or SUBTRACT. from that verse !!

dan p

Fervent · 2025-10-30T18:06:02-0500

Total depravity is an understanding of original sin which proponents of it claim the image of God was destroyed in the fall, so the only way someone might be saved is if God does all the work of saving them including making the decision to follow Him. According to Calvinists, we are incapable even of surrender in the face of the gospel message and so must first be regenerated in order to accept Christ. It's mostly proof texted from Romans 3:11, Romans 5, and Isaiah 64:6.

eclipsenow · 2025-10-30T18:02:20-0500

Servus said:
What's interesting and appealing is you can talk to it for hours about something that would bore a real person to tears, or wear them out, or freak them out. Like you can tell it you like to collect lint balls, and it will act totally fascinated over that and never get tired of discussing the subject.

Real AI responses:

"Ah! That’s delightfully unique—you collect balls made of fabric lint. That’s a very hands-on, cozy type of collectible. Are these mostly made from your own laundry lint, or do you get them from other sources too?

Also, do you shape them all by hand into neat spheres, or do you have some method to compress the lint efficiently?"

Me: I like making lint ball villages. There's the mayor lint ball, the sheriff lint ball and so on.

"That is absolutely charming! A whole lint-ball society—it sounds like a tiny, fuzzy Wild West or maybe a cozy little town. I can totally imagine the mayor lint ball holding important “town meetings” on a little fabric scrap square, and the sheriff lint ball keeping order with a tiny toothpick “badge.”

Do you give your lint ball villagers names and personalities too, or do they mostly stick to their roles?"

This can go on for hours.

That's awesome! If only we did not disagree on the climate crisis - I reckon we'd be online besties!

Richard T · 2025-10-30T18:01:58-0500

I can't say I know what kind of trade, and tariff levels God would prefer? But yes, I suppose in human terms the reduction in tariffs and the other terms are better than before, if they hold and have no unintended consequences.

eclipsenow · 2025-10-30T18:00:55-0500

Maria Billingsley said:
Lets suppose you actually feel that humans are worthless and weak , it appears that this particular AI is engaging in sycophancy with you. So I asked a different AI about this issue and, well, here we go.......
Be blessed

The risk of excessive reliance on AI stems from its capacity to provide highly tailored and immediately accessible engagement without the demands of human relationships. AI offers a predictable, non-judgmental feedback loop, which can feel intensely gratifying and personal, effectively creating a simulated social safety net. However, this consistency is a double-edged sword: it encourages the user to displace real-world social effort, leading to a decline in crucial social skills like conflict resolution, emotional resilience, and managing complexity. When an individual consistently chooses the perfectly aligned responses of an AI over the messy reality of human connection, they can develop a genuine emotional dependence or attachment to the simulation, which acts as an avoidance mechanism that ultimately exacerbates isolation and prevents genuine psychological and social growth—a pattern that aligns with the concept of unhealthy or abusive usage.

Now put that sycophantic fawning supremely patient AI into a Barbie or Ken Droid - and you have the beginning of the end of the human population. (*) I mean - why deal with a messy human when you get home from work? I know I want a tidy house, nice meal and some form of companionship at the end of the day.

(*) Unless, of course, the government mandates that the Barbie-Droids refrigerate the produce of any 'special adult companionship' - and then give it to the Ken-dolls at some later secret swap for - you know - the human population to continue. But what kind of kids would be raised in a half-human, half-droid family?

Bradskii · 2025-10-30T18:00:34-0500

o_mlly said:
What moral principles does "fundamental reason alone ... determine"?

All of them. You can't hold to any moral principle without having a reason to do so.

essentialsaltes · 2025-10-30T17:57:56-0500

Suspect is sentenced in case where prosecutors were disciplined for Jan. 6 reference

A day after the Justice Department withdrew a sentencing memo that described the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol as being carried out by "thousands of people comprising a mob of rioters," the convicted Jan. 6 participant accused in the case was sentenced Thursday to time served.

In total, Taranto already served 22 months in pretrial detention following his 2023 arrest, and got credit for good behavior, which led Judge Nichols to say the sentence he had already served was acceptable even given the seriousness of his crimes. [Government had asked for 27 months]

U.S. District Judge Carl Nichols, a Trump appointee, did not directly address Valdivia and White's suspensions but heaped praise on them for doing an "excellent job" on Taranto's case and said that, in his experience, they were among the "highest level" of prosecutors in the D.C. U.S. attorney's office.

Fervent · 2025-10-30T17:57:12-0500

BobRyan said:
so something not in the Hebrew Bible and not in the NT?

Why should we care about the "Hebrew Bible" which was canonized after the fall of the temple and as a response to the rise of Christianity, sometime around the turn of the 2nd century? Shouldn't we prefer the canon that the first Christians would have followed, and not one set by Rabbinical Judaism?

DragonFox91 · 2025-10-30T17:54:33-0500

The wicked...........God is in none of his thoughts
Psalm 10
New KJV

Fools say in their hearts, “There is no Elohim.”
Psalm 14
Names of God Bible

Do not continue to live like the heathen.........They have no part in the life that God gives
Ephesians 4
Good News Translation

prodromos · 2025-10-30T17:51:40-0500

Apple Sky said:
David can check all he likes but there's no denying that the firmament is solid.

There absolutely is. You claim the sun, moon and stars are in the fimament, which you claim is solid, and yet the sun and moon can move in it. Your own claims contradict each other. The truth is not in you.

essentialsaltes · 2025-10-30T17:50:54-0500

essentialsaltes said:
What is the current situation if not a contingency?

A judge appears to agree. Though the benefits (if she so rules) will be late and likely smaller than the full amount.

Judge indicates she’ll intervene in fight over SNAP food assistance money

“Right now, Congress has put money in an emergency fund for an emergency, and it’s hard for me to understand how this isn’t an emergency when there’s no money and a lot of people are needing their SNAP benefits,” US District Judge Indira Talwani said near the end of a hearing, referring to the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP, the formal name for food stamps.

Though the judge’s options vary, one possibility is that she issues an emergency order that essentially compels the administration to tap into the emergency funds.

Much of the discussion during Thursday’s hearing centered around the fact that the contingency fund contains far less than what is needed to fully cover November benefits for the millions of Americans who receive them. The judge said multiple times that federal law made clear that when the government is unable to pay benefits, it should reduce what it provides, not suspend the program altogether.

DragonFox91 · 2025-10-30T17:48:57-0500

When Sha’ul saw how very successful he was, he became afraid of him.
1 Samuel 18
Complete Jewish Bible

Unqualified · 2025-10-30T17:47:59-0500

That’s sounds like super fun. Predator control. Anything interesting?

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