Ignatius the Kiwi said:

I actually know quite a bit about it as a historic movement. They died out in history which is why you can't find any of them in history. Your kinsmen in faith ceased to exist.

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If they don't believe that Jesus was the Son of God, and that Jesus made it possible to crucify the "flesh" and to walk in the Spirit...they are not kinsmen in the faith.

Ignatius the Kiwi said:

Ah so they were murdered and raped for God's glory.

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You are adding to scripture.

Ignatius the Kiwi said:

Does preventing murder and rape prevent your God receiving glory as well?

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What do you think ?

Ignatius the Kiwi said:

Except God didnt keep your brothers and sisters safe. They all died out. You are the only true believer since the Apostles.

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You lust be alluding to the gnostics again.
That is your error here.

Ignatius the Kiwi said:

All societies are built on the premise of order and organizing of society. It's not about me building anything.

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You have gone off the tracks.
I don't know what you are talking about anymore.

Ignatius the Kiwi said:

Which is why you and me are not brothers in Christ. You deny all other Christians except yourself. Which is fine but you are alone.

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If you have no fear of God, you are not my brother in Christ.
I am not alone.

Ignatius the Kiwi said:

They don't interest you because you can't deal with them. It's not hard to answer. Is preventing a murder more sinful than allowing the murder to go ahead?

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I will keep praying that God doesn't put me in a situation where I need to use violence to save myself or others.

Ignatius the Kiwi said:

Your church had no preachers during the time of Islamic expansion so I don't see any point in continuing this.

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The gates of hell cannot prevail over the church by Christ Jesus.
We have been here since the beginning.

Ignatius the Kiwi said:

You aren't part of the historic Christian Church

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I disagree.

Ignatius the Kiwi said:

and your fellow Gnostics ceased to exist.

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Isn't that some kind of oxymoron ?
If they don't exist, then I can't be one of them.

Ignatius the Kiwi said:

So I guess it's not relevant for you.

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It is of no interest to me.

essentialsaltes said:

Fire the statisticians!
Expunge the data!
Place foxes in charge of henhouses!

'Reckless' OK schools chief promised 'serious changes' — and this might be the biggest yet​

OKLAHOMA CITY — In a major departure from decades of state and federal policy, Oklahoma’s top education official said Friday his administration doesn’t plan to administer statewide reading and math tests this school year.

Instead, state Superintendent Ryan Walters suggested Oklahoma should collect data from benchmark assessments that individual school districts select and purchase from private vendors.

The plan requires permission from the U.S. Department of [WW]Ed, and Walters said he expects a “very, very quick” approval from the Trumpadministration.

For several years, Oklahoma’s state tests have found a majority of students performing below their grade level. This was the case last year even after the state lowered the standard for students to meet grade-level targets in reading and math.

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This reminds me of growing up in Oklahoma. I was "blessed" (actually, my parents made sure of it before we moved there) to live in a community with excellent schools. The town I grew up in was headquarters to a major oil company, so the executives and scientists working at the oil company ensured the schools were very good and well funded.

So, when I took my ACT to get into college, I remember it being interesting, how I did as a percentage compared locally, statewide, and nationally. My local percentages were the lowest -- they were good schools and so the percentage showed that there were other very strong students with great scores. The national scores were next, they were about three percentage points higher than the local scores, showing that the students in my area, overall, scored well above the national average. However, the local Oklahoma percentages were by far the highest -- something close to 10 percentage points higher than the national average. The Oklahoma average scores were just that bad, even with my town adding scores that were higher than the national average. What's worse, at that point, Oklahoma had about the 42nd best schools in the nation, compared to the 50th best now; so they've gotten worse in the decades since I was in school.

Yeshua HaDerekh said:

Biden was creepier...taking showers with his young relative and sniffing girls and womans hair...

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I don't think "It's all Biden's fault" is going to be an effective diversion.

Gives us a chance to look at the contrast, though...

RDKirk said:

You mean like the California warning labels that mark nearly everything as cancer-causing...to the point that people simply ignore them?

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In ChatGPT the warning label is right under the prompt and is the only warning on the page, and is by no means “buried”, so absolutely not. Additionally the model will advise you about that, and also provide guidance on how to improve reliability.

RDKirk said:

This is pretty much like a gun owner attempting to explain proper marksmanship training and gun handling to people who buy guns but still expect them to be magic wands that somehow just make bad guys fall down.

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The incompetence of some end users, while an unceasing pain to professionals, is intractable, and is not a legitimate basis for limiting or suppressing innovation. Thankfully no one was around to tell the people on ARPANet in the 1970s to stop their development work because it was too hard to use.*

* Actually on this point the relative lack of concern for end users seen in the early years of computing, which did not translate to intentional hostility but rather towards designs optimized for facilitating work to be accomplished swiftly with training, was probably to our advantage. It is regrettable that the hardware required to implement a neural network of virtual perceptron filters of the sort that form the basis for LLM-type AIs would require a few more decades to mature.

Yeshua HaDerekh said:

I have never heard Trump was involved but I have heard that the Clinton probably were.

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The difference is, Trump had both the motive and the opportunity. This is why Trump is frantically trying to stop people from talking about it, while the Clinton's don't bother with it.

Strong in Him said:

The photos of the earth that were taken in space have a lot to do with the moon landings.
You believe that they - along with everything else - was faked; therefore you don't believe that the photos show the earth is a globe.

None of it was faked - but as long as you dismiss everyone as liars, you can kid yourself that it was.

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Like I said ' fish eyed glass or visors'

It’s time for Israel to stop playing by the rules while its enemies play for keeps

It is long past time for Israel to stop playing by the rules of the Marquis of Queensbury when its enemies are playing by those of the Marquis de Sade.

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Explanation:
The Rules of the Marquess of Queensberry are a set of rules published in 1867 by John Graham Chambers under the patronage of the Marquess of Queensberry. They laid the foundations for modern boxing by prescribing, among other things, the use of gloves, a limited round time and standing up after a knockdown. The Marquis de Sade was a French writer and philosopher known for his explicit and often violent literary works that explore libertarian and sadistic themes. His writings are characterized by a radical individualism and a rejection of traditional morals.

A New Dawn said:

So much fake outrage.

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That's not what his victims think. One case alone cost him millions in damages for slandering a woman he sexually abused and then denied any responsibility.

A New Dawn said:

If only there outrage (heck, even fake outrage would be acceptable) on the left regarding Biden’s shadow government, or Obama using a fake news dossier to get wiretapping for Trump’s campaign.

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It all comes down to evidence. So Trump got indicted, convicted, fined, and had to pay damages for crimes he actually committed. That's the difference between reality and fantasy.

Say it aint so said:

An Anecdotal Fallacy occurs when someone relies on personal experiences or individual cases as evidence for a general claim, overlooking larger and more reliable data.

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You are absolutely right. Tariffs triggering price increases are in the first inning. If the courts allow them to continue, the price increases are sure to come, the only question is when and by how much. Most businesses desire to keep their margins steady or even raise them if possible.

Well July 4th 2024 was the last day that I worked out. September 25th 2024 was the last day I worked. I had surgery December 23rd and January 6th I had a blood clot in my leg and one went to my lungs.
I have to use a walker or crutches to get around. I weigh 370
I have started Weight Watchers and I am going to start working out with bands and chair workouts

rjs330 said:

If the tables were reversed in this situation, and Hamas were in Israel doing the same thing those Isrealis were doing they would have had a lot of Isrealis in front of them and would be shooting all the bystanders and then it the end shot the shop keeper.

If you fail to recognize the difference then you have no understanding.

Its the difference between punching some one in the face and giving them a black eye and beating them to a bloody pulp. Both instances are wrong. But they are not equal. To try and make them equal is nonsensical. And often prejudicial.

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Would you accuse Israelis of using their children as shields if it was Hamas killing kids?

-CryptoLutheran

The book of Deuteronomy contains more than 80 verses about Israel possessing the land that G-d promised them. We pray that G-d's living Word, which is powerful and sharp as a two-edged sword (Heb 4:12), will impress this truth on the minds and hearts of Jews inside and outside Israel and produce faith and works to fulfill this very clear instruction from G-d.

Abba, let Your promises encourage Israel to drive in their tent pegs over all the land You have sworn to them, regardless of what other nations or NGOs may say or do

Remember his marvellous works that he hath done; his wonders, and the judgments of his mouth; O ye seed of Abraham his servant, ye children of Jacob his chosen. He is the Lord our G-d: his judgments are in all the earth. He hath remembered his covenant for ever, the word which he commanded to a thousand generations. Which covenant he made with Abraham, and his oath unto Isaac; And confirmed the same unto Jacob for a law, and to Israel for an everlasting covenant: Saying, Unto thee will I give the land of Canaan, the lot of your inheritance: When they were but a few men in number; yea, very few, and strangers in it. Ps 105:5-12

Enlarge the place of thy tent, and let them stretch forth the curtains of thine habitations: spare not, lengthen thy cords, and strengthen thy stakes; For thou shalt break forth on the right hand and on the left; and thy seed shall inherit the Gentiles, and make the desolate cities to be inhabited. Isa 54:2-3

Thank You, Lord G-d, that Jeremiah describes the land You are planting Israel in, and that it stretches from the Jordan to the Mediterranean! Hallelujah!

Yea, I will rejoice over them to do them good, and I will plant them in this land assuredly with my whole heart and with my whole soul. Jer 32.41

Men shall buy fields for money, and subscribe evidences, and seal them, and take witnesses in the land of Benjamin, and in the places about Jerusalem, and in the cities of Judah, and in the cities of the mountains, and in the cities of the valley, and in the cities of the south: for I will cause their captivity to return, saith the Lord. Jer 32:44

G-d of Jacob, since You are jealous of Your land, destroy all plans to establish a “Palestine” on it, whether by "friends" or enemies

Therefore thus saith the Lord G-d; Surely in the fire of my jealousy have I spoken against the residue of the heathen, and against all Idumea, which have appointed my land into their possession with the joy of all their heart, with despiteful minds, to cast it out for a prey. Prophesy therefore concerning the land of Israel, and say unto the mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys, Thus saith the Lord G-d; Behold, I have spoken in my jealousy and in my fury, because ye have borne the shame of the heathen: Therefore thus saith the Lord G-d; I have lifted up mine hand, Surely the heathen that are about you, they shall bear their shame. Ezek 36:5-7

The Lord bringeth the counsel of the heathen to nought: he maketh the devices of the people of none effect. The counsel of the Lord standeth for ever, the thoughts of his heart to all generations. Ps 33:10-11

Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. Zec 14:1-3

Lord G-d, anoint Finance Minister Smotrich and Defense Minister Katz as they work to strengthen the building of Israeli fact on the ground in Judea, Samaria and the Jordan Valley

And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them. And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the Lord thy G-d. Am 9:14-15

King Messiah, may America's ambassador to Israel, Mike Huckabee, a true Christian Zionist, provoke Israel's leaders with his biblical zeal for Israel to possess all her land

And an angel of the Lord came up from Gilgal to Bochim, and said, I made you to go up out of Egypt, and have brought you unto the land which I sware unto your fathers; and I said, I will never break my covenant with you. And ye shall make no league with the inhabitants of this land; ye shall throw down their altars: but ye have not obeyed my voice: why have ye done this? Wherefore I also said, I will not drive them out from before you; but they shall be as thorns in your sides, and their gods shall be a snare unto you. And it came to pass, when the angel of the Lord spake these words unto all the children of Israel, that the people lifted up their voice, and wept. And they called the name of that place Bochim: and they sacrificed there unto the Lord. Jdg 2:1-5

When the Lord turned again the captivity of Zion, we were like them that dream. Then was our mouth filled with laughter, and our tongue with singing: then said they among the heathen, The Lord hath done great things for them. The Lord hath done great things for us; whereof we are glad. nPs 126:1-3

G-d of Israel, please uproot your enemies from your land and do it now

For the rod of the wicked shall not rest upon the lot of the righteous; lest the righteous put forth their hands unto iniquity. Ps 125:3

Thus saith the Lord against all mine evil neighbours, that touch the inheritance which I have caused my people Israel to inherit; Behold, I will pluck them out of their land, and pluck out the house of Judah from among them. And it shall come to pass, after that I have plucked them out I will return, and have compassion on them, and will bring them again, every man to his heritage, and every man to his land. And it shall come to pass, if they will diligently learn the ways of my people, to swear by my name, The Lord liveth; as they taught my people to s wear by Baal; then shall they be built in the midst of my people. But if they will not obey, I will utterly pluck up and destroy that nation, saith the Lord. Jer 12:14-17

Lord G-d, since the "Palestinian Authority" is part of the problem, divide it internally and set it and Hamas against each other whenever and wherever they interact

That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it? Hi 38:13

Let them all be confounded and turned back that hate Zion. Ps 129:5

Almighty King, free the IDF from all humanistic shackles and let them fight the terrorists in Judea and Samaria in a biblical way, including asking You to lead them into battle

Thou hast enlarged my steps under me, that my feet did not slip. I have pursued mine enemies, and overtaken them: neither did I turn again till they were consumed. I have wounded them that they were not able to rise: they are fallen under my feet. For thou hast girded me with strength unto the battle: thou hast subdued under me those that rose up against me. Thou hast also given me the necks of mine enemies; that I might destroy them that hate me. Ps 18:36-40

Thou art my King, O G-d: command deliverances for Jacob. Ps 44:4

Abba Father, spread Your divine wings of protection over all Israel's security forces as they battle Arab terrorists in Judea and Samaria

Keep me as the apple of the eye, hide me under the shadow of thy wings, Ps. 17:8

He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler. Ps 91:4

Keep me from the snares which they have laid for me, and the gins of the workers of iniquity. Let the wicked fall into their own nets, whilst that I withal escape. Ps 141:9-10

Ophiolite said:

I am confident those gay and trans individuals reading this will be deeply moved by the Christian compassion that causes you to place them in the same category as criminals and sexual predators.
/deeply saddened sarcasm

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Unfortunately, this is where it all began. We as a society started recognizing immoral practices as normal everyday things. Instead of saying, "hey Betty, you can't marry a person of the same sex, it's immoral" or "hey Louis, you can't be a girl, it's immoral" or "hey Susie, just remember you aren't really a fox, you can pretend to be one at home but when you go outside, act like the adult that you are", we say to our children, "oh, that is so cute". Children need to know the boundaries, and they need to be re-enforced by explaining it you the child. Will they always listen, probably not but you can't give in and think it not going to harm them. You might have a child who can't process right from wrong properly and being allowed to continue to seriously entertain the immoral thought only strengthens their belief that it is okay. By dealing with it when they are young, sets the boundaries for them later in life.

rjs330 said:

Only if you have independent journalists from all sides. Far too many journalists these days are leftists and belong to leftist organizations. And there are most certainly journalists on the right who belong to conservative organizations. I say they should pair up.
But then both Israel and Hamas could set up things they want them to see. Let them hear the stories they want them to hear, not even knowing if they are true. Both sides are being accused of lying and propegandizing.

But perhaps if journalists HAD to team up, one from the left and one from the right we might actually find a more honest report.

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Ignoring the general attack on journalism as being "leftist"; I'd be absolutely fine to have outside, independent journalists teaming up from different media. The goal should be objective journalism.

-CryptoLutheran

AV1611VET said:

Alan Turing was prosecuted for acts against nature.

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... and you're point is...?

Clare73 said:

Works for me. . .don't see the law as "jackboot," neither God's law nor the national laws of our republic.

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Not just "the law" but "martial law". Jackboot refers to military boots. I don't consider the imposition of martial law

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What an "unfortunate" point of view. . .no doubt in agreement with the lawbreakers.

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While some of us evidently prefer authoritarianism, others of us abhor it.

FAITH-IN-HIM said:

The conflict did not occur solely on U.S. soil. During the Civil War, the nation was divided, with one part being the United States of America and the other the Confederate States of America. Similar to conflicts with foreign nations such as Germany, Americans fought against what was then considered a separate entity—the Confederate States of America.

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Hogwash. That is in direct contradiction to history.

To accept that line of reasoning, someone would have to completely dismiss the Congress‘s own words and the president’s own words at the enactment of this monument.

I find no Creedence to being able to do so

Apple Sky said:

Yeah through fish eyed lenses or glass, like the windows or their visors, without these their perception of earth would have been very different.

Do you think that NASA doesn't know this ?

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Well you clearly don't.

Well July 4th 2024 was the last day that I worked out. September 25th 2024 was the last day I worked. I had surgery December 23rd and January 6th I had a blood clot in my leg and one went to my lungs.
I have to use a walker or crutches to get around. I weigh 370
I have started Weight Watchers and I am going to start working out with bands and chair workouts

Apple Sky said:

Flat earth is a related subject but it has nothing to with the moon landings

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The photos of the earth that were taken in space have a lot to do with the moon landings.
You believe that they - along with everything else - was faked; therefore you don't believe that the photos show the earth is a globe.

None of it was faked - but as long as you dismiss everyone as liars, you can kid yourself that it was.

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essentialsaltes said:

Trump's Secretary of Energy suggested it. They quoted him accurately.

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They did?

How do you know that? I looked y your link. They have the document, didn’t show it.

Clare73 said:

A "mere"?. . .49.8% to 48.3%. . .Trump had 2,300,000 more votes.

Works for me. . .

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Right, not a majority, but a plurality.

KolQoreBaMidbar said:

The papal calendar is corrupt. It's highly unlikely this is the year 2025 after Christ.
All such timeline calculations are thus flawed from the start.

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It's not looking too bad to me. It's looking like things are right on track. It's not the fault of the Papal Calendar. Pope Gregory changed New Years Day from April 1st to January 1st in 1582, but that would only throw my count off by 4 months. My start date is 1535 when they were still on the Julian Calendar. I'm not really counting the individual years themselves but sets of "sevens", heptads. And I'm not trying to count the years since creation week.

It's easy to figure out that Jesus died on April 7, 30AD by counting the Passover for that year. Celestial mechanics sees the phases of the moon, God's faithful witness. I pretty much can't be wrong with that.

cfposter said:

The days of Adam began in 3890 BC with Isaac born in 1910 BC, with the Exodus in 1479 BC.

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How can we be accurate with this? And is it the days when Adam began, or from when he fell?

I'm reasonably sure the Exodus was in 1437BC. That started a count of three sets of 70 weeks, the third set are the ones from Daniel 9 that began in 457BC, and ended in 34AD. The 7th set of 70 weeks ended in 1994. But for the purpose of our discussion, it's not really important.

I'm reasonably sure we're still right on track. I don't want to jinx it by saying what I think is going on now. We'll see it when it happens.