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stevevw · Sunday at 7:54 PM

Hans Blaster said:
What was the training set of this AI? It certainly wasn't only the peer-reviewed literature.

It came from the same search for Petries quotes about the advanced signatures in the stones when he found them. The Ai would be drawing on Petrie's own words. In fact he was quite specific and amazed how how they could possibly create such signatures. He goes into great detail about the depths of cut in the granite, the amount of pressure required and the need for a fixed cutter under great stress to leave such signatures.

In fact for Petrie he was amazed because at his time tech was not even at that level. You could imagine how we are discovering how much these vases reflect modern machining. But imagine in Petries time when modern maching was not yet around.

ralliann · Sunday at 7:53 PM

timothyu said:
The House of Judah is the tribe of Judah. Two separate brothers. The House of Israel cannot be combined into Judah.

All the tribes were present in judea at the time of Christ. For what it is worth, the levites were taken for all the firsborn, And the levites redeemed them

BCP1928 · Sunday at 7:53 PM

stevevw said:
No I am using this as an example of how there are different kinds of knowledge and ways of understanding reality. The ancients don't say god gave them a CNC machine. But they do say that their god gave their ancestors the knowledge to make such works.

Just like Christians say that their God parted the seas, raised people from the dead and gave them knowledge to perform supernatural feats that defy objective reality.

I guess it depends on your worldview beliefs about metaphysics. Whether you believe that reality is only material and within naturalism. Or theres more to it.

It may bee that in the distant past knowledge was different and as ancients were immersed in nature and more aware of it they came to understand some of its secrets.

You hear of Indigenous knowledge and how they understood plants and chemistry and healing properties and all that. Western sciences relegated this as superstition. Now we are discovering that they actually understood medicine and other aspects like the environment better than we do today.

We also hear Indigenous peoples themselves say how they have lost or are losing this ancient knowledge. How much greater was this knowledge going back 5,000 or 10,000 years. If human cognition was just as capable of sophisticated thinking as today then why is it not possible that knowledge has peaked and fallen more than once and gets lost. I mean a different kind of knowledge.

The enlightened knowledge we have today is just one expression of knowledge. I mentioned the knowledged gained by religion and spirituality. Today there are entire journals on consciousness and experiential knowledge.

So when you say there should be a CNC machine used by ancients this is only how we would imagine how such precision could be achieved by todays standards. Like we use antibiotics today it may have been a natural remedy understand through experiential knowledge of nature.

So it may be as mentioned above that ancients understood physics or chemistry not as a scientists having studied physics or chemistry from the outside looking in. It may be that ancients being immersed in nature gained knowledge to be able to manipulate nature, such as stone softening or creating chemical reactions ect where they could achieve these great works. Then it was lost.

But as I said that is the spectulative past as to how they could have done it. This does not change the fact that the signatures show the marks of modern tech. Its just a matter of how they did it which is spectulation until we have more information.

But it could not possibly be actual tech like today because as pointed out we would find it. There are 1,000s of these vases. It was an industry at one stage. There would be machines everywhere. But theres nothing. Nit even a lathe or simple bent stick cutter like on the walls that come later. Its strange.

Nothing to find. They hauled it all away in the Chariots of the Gods.

JosephZ · Sunday at 7:51 PM

Oompa Loompa said:
I am assuming this is not some radical Anti-Mormon nut job. But a "let's stick it to religious folk" nut job. Statistically, it is likely to be another religion hating liberal. But time will tell.

I've seen the social media pages of the shooter's mother and other family members. He was a right-wing Christian and a strong Trump supporter.

bbbbbbb · Sunday at 7:48 PM

Best friends last for life.

Hazelelponi · Sunday at 7:46 PM

Daniel Martinovich said:
Notice the fundamental error in the way people look at this passage because of end of the world teachings.

1st Corinthians 15:24 then the end, when He shall hand over the kingdom to the God and Father, when He shall have annulled all dominion, and all authority and power. 25 For it behooves Him to reign until He shall have put all the enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy to be abolished is death. 27 For “He has put in subjection all things under His feet.” But when it may be said that all things have been put in subjection, it is evident that the One having put in subjection all things to Him is excepted. 28 Now when all things shall have been put in subjection to Him, then also the Son Himself will be put in subjection to the One having put in subjection all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.

The end in the first verse where Christ hands the kingdom over to the Father is the cross. Before the cross Jesus annulled all dominion, authority and power.
John 18:6 shows his dominion, authority and power exercised against the government and its soldiers.
John 8:59 over mobs attempting to kill him.
John 9:1-34 over disabilities, in this case a man born blind.
Luke 4:40 over all sickness and disease.
Matthew 8:29, over demons.
John 2:1-11 and Matthew 14:15-21 over the elements.
Luke 8:22-25 over the earth.
Mark 2:3-12 over sin.
Matthew 4:1-11 over temptation.
Luke 5:4-11 over the animal kingdom.
Verses 25-26 says Jesus reigned until he put all of his enemies under his feet and then he abolished the last enemy death, with his resurrection.
Verse 27 tells us how he did this, (as a human being.) The One who put all things under his feet when he walked this earth was God his Father. Everything was put in subjection to Jesus with the exception of God the Father. Verse 28 says once all was conquered then Jesus was put in subjection to the one who subjected all things to him. This happened when Jesus voluntarily surrendered himself in the Garden of Gethsemane to the authorities’ intent on killing him.

John 16:33 I have spoken these things to you so that in Me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation. But take courage; I have overcome the world." The word overcome in this verse means to conquer and prevail in battle.
That is what Jesus did AS KING. The fundamental error is thinking that Jesus came only as a suffering servant and will someday return as a conquering king. What he did was come as a conquering king who then gave his life for the sins of the world that God may be all in all, as 1st Corinthians 15:28 says.
His kingdom that is currently being built is not modeled on the worlds kingdoms of that day. If you want to see it, or at least its effects, as it is invisible; all you have to do is look at the billions who have come to Christ in the last 500 years and how they and the Bible's influnce created a growing free world. There was no such world in any way shape or form back then.

Fear not Jesus says; Isaiah 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, on the throne of David, and on his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from now on even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

Your reading of the passage over-realizes the kingdom—placing too much of 1 Cor 15 at the first coming. Classic amillennialism (think Augustine, Berkhof, Hoekema) agrees Christ is reigning now but still sees 1 Cor 15:24–28 reaching its final fulfillment at His second coming, when the dead are raised and death itself is finally abolished.

Amillennialism rejects a literal earthly millennium yet affirms a future, visible second coming, final judgment, and bodily resurrection as distinct from the first coming. This “already/not yet” tension means we live under Christ’s real reign now, but the last enemy—death—is only destroyed in full at the general resurrection.

stevevw · Sunday at 7:46 PM

BCP1928 said:
What? Are you claiming that God gave them CNC machine tools?

No I am using this as an example of how there are different kinds of knowledge and ways of understanding reality. The ancients don't say god gave them a CNC machine. But they do say that their god gave their ancestors the knowledge to make such works.

Just like Christians say that their God parted the seas, raised people from the dead and gave them knowledge to perform supernatural feats that defy objective reality.

I guess it depends on your worldview beliefs about metaphysics. Whether you believe that reality is only material and within naturalism. Or theres more to it.

It may bee that in the distant past knowledge was different and as ancients were immersed in nature and more aware of it they came to understand some of its secrets.

You hear of Indigenous knowledge and how they understood plants and chemistry and healing properties and all that. Western sciences relegated this as superstition. Now we are discovering that they actually understood medicine and other aspects like the environment better than we do today.

We also hear Indigenous peoples themselves say how they have lost or are losing this ancient knowledge. How much greater was this knowledge going back 5,000 or 10,000 years. If human cognition was just as capable of sophisticated thinking as today then why is it not possible that knowledge has peaked and fallen more than once and gets lost. I mean a different kind of knowledge.

The enlightened knowledge we have today is just one expression of knowledge. I mentioned the knowledged gained by religion and spirituality. Today there are entire journals on consciousness and experiential knowledge.

So when you say there should be a CNC machine used by ancients this is only how we would imagine how such precision could be achieved by todays standards. Like we use antibiotics today it may have been a natural remedy understand through experiential knowledge of nature.

So it may be as mentioned above that ancients understood physics or chemistry not as a scientists having studied physics or chemistry from the outside looking in. It may be that ancients being immersed in nature gained knowledge to be able to manipulate nature, such as stone softening or creating chemical reactions ect where they could achieve these great works. Then it was lost.

But as I said that is the spectulative past as to how they could have done it. This does not change the fact that the signatures show the marks of modern tech. Its just a matter of how they did it which is spectulation until we have more information.

But it could not possibly be actual tech like today because as pointed out we would find it. There are 1,000s of these vases. It was an industry at one stage. There would be machines everywhere. But theres nothing. Nit even a lathe or simple bent stick cutter like on the walls that come later. Its strange.

BCP1928 · Sunday at 7:44 PM

stevevw said:
Also who said it was a computer. I didn't.

You did. You specifically used the term CNC to describe the kind of machine you thought necessary. CNC stands for Computer Numerical Control Yes, there has to be a computer. The computer exercises the numerical control instead of the operator.

RDKirk · Sunday at 7:41 PM

Say it aint so said:
What's the reality here?

The FBI having undercover agents at an event where militia groups were plotting, training, then ransacked the capital in military stack formations while carrying zip times for cuffing people. All while they stashed a cache of weapons at a hotel if and when needed. Who were their intended cuffees? To have any FBI agents sent there coming to the conclusion it was all political just tells the mental shallow mindedness of those agents.

I think the reality is that the FBI was undergoing significant internal turmoil to the extent that they could understand something significant and possibly violent could happen and convey the need to be there without knowing exactly what they were going to do with whatever they found happening.

I've seen the same kind of thing happen in the military. The tactical leadership knows, "We should be there and be ready to act," and has the authority to direct tactical forces to that point. But "What are we going to do if the fit hits the Shan?" requires guidance from higher leadership...which doesn't come.

RocksInMyHead · Sunday at 7:37 PM

ThatRobGuy said:
No, because I'm not...

Hm.

"I haven't considered the possibility that I'm wrong because I know I'm right" isn't really an attitude conducive to discussion. Just sayin'.

sjastro · Sunday at 7:32 PM

Tuur said:
That presumes that intellectualism is a promotion of education, science, and critical thinking. Having seen what some self-described intellectuals consider education and science, and seeing them pan critical thinking, I find that extremely doubtful.

Case in point: Remember the recent pandemic and "intellectuals" mocking people who did their own research? More obscure is "intellectuals" promoting Common Core for education, even though these standards were less than what some state already had. You really don't want to see what's in some history textbooks now. Regardless of politics, what I've seen as of about a couple of decades ago had factual errors. How do I know? Because my family had known one minor historical figure, which archeologists had found evidence supporting, but one textbook cast doubt that this person had ever existed. And then there was the practical dismissal of a major Indian nation in the state for another, smaller, one that was more "glamourous." And that's just the low hanging fruit.

As for critical thinking, if you feel like trolling, question anthropomorphic global warming, then sit back and watch the fun.

Rather than trying to define intellectualism a clearer picture is obtained by asking what is anti-intellectualism?
The answer is anti-intellectualism is a form of discrimination, the anti-intellectual champions the common person and it is not only scientists that have been historically discriminated against but also philosophers, writers, artists, legal scholars to name a few.
These days with major events such as climate change and the after effects of Covid-19, anti-intellectualism is largely targeted towards scientists.

To use climate change as an example why is the most common criticism is that it is a hoax?
Instead of showing why the science is wrong using critical thinking which becomes a major casualty, smearing the reputations of scientists is the way to go as they are engaging in a world wide conspiracy to bring down civilization which is clearly anti-intellectual.
This has led to a world wide effect where climate scientists face death threats, women scientists with the added threat of sexual assault.

Now that you have a half wit running your country with his anti climate change rhetoric displayed at the UN recently, anti-intellectualism can only get worse.

timothyu · Sunday at 7:24 PM

Benaiah468 said:
coming from the tribe of Benjamin, which belongs to the house of Judah.

The House of Judah is the tribe of Judah. Two separate brothers. The House of Israel cannot be combined into Judah.

RocksInMyHead · Sunday at 7:24 PM

ThatRobGuy said:
My assertion was that those slogans are leveraging semantic overload.

Have you even considered the possibility that it might be you semantically overloading the sign?

Chesterton · Sunday at 7:20 PM

ThatRobGuy said:
The French-Canadian customs officer was incredibly rude (even more so than the French Canadians normally are), as were the people I passed on the street and tried to be friendly with.

Her questions at the customs checkpoint were
"So you're coming here to take some pictures and get lunch, and why can't you do that in Vermont?"
"Who did you vote for?" (to which she didn't seem to believe my answer that I didn't vote in last election)
"Do you own or have any guns?" (loaded question)
She then asked the GF (who's Indian) "Has he ever threatened you?"

I haven't crossed into French Canada, but the customs officer into Ontario was also extremely rude, glaring at me like it was a homicide interrogation. When she asked me if I own or have any guns, I said "Yes and no". This seemed to concern her, and she asked me what I meant. I said no, I don't have any guns on my person, but I own LOTS of guns back at my home in Texas. She totally didn't like that answer, but there was nothing she could do.

stevevw · Sunday at 7:16 PM

BCP1928 said:
No, you have the problem of where they got electrically powered, computer controlled machines and why there is no archeological evidence of their existence. Of course it would be easier if you would stop disparaging the capabilities of experience craftsmen working with hand tools, you wouldn't have to convince us of the presence of CNC machine tools in ancient Egypt, but I suppose you have a point to make--I just wish you would get to it.

I already have. Everyone acknowledges that some sort of lathe was used with very good stability to achieve such near precise symmetry and roundness. That in itself is evidence. Yet we cannot find any lathes. The potters wheel was not even invented yet. We cannot find anything that even looks like a potters wheel. Yet they produced lathe like symmetry and circularity.

So that arguement also works against even a basic bent stick device as seen on the walls which was later used. At least we have the method later. But nothing for more complicated vases in the predyanstic Egyptians.

Also who said it was a computer. I didn't. That is your spectualtion. Like I said the precision and other works may not have been achieved by the same methods we use today. I mentioned earlier about stone softening. If this is the case then granite becomes like clay and then its just a case of modeling and molding to precision. Ifg you look at the stone walls in Peru they have been softened.

Who knows. But further research is needed.

BCP1928 said:
We're not concerned with their religious beliefs.

I am lol. If you look at Indigenous knowledge it is steeped in religious and spiritual beliefs. I think this is the key and major difference between todays western sciences and alternative ways of knowing reality.

I am not sure if you are a Christian but put other religion. If so you understand that there is other ways of knowing reality. Christians believe in the supernatural. There were miracles in the bible and Christ rose from the dead. Christians spoke of miracles defying objective reality and scientific explanations.

Why is is not possible that ancient people like Aboriginals who go back 60,000 years did not possess some sort of transcedent knowledge being immersed in nature and understanding nature. Why is it a surprise that they may have known how to manipulate nature and change the physics or chemical compositions ect. Or know remedies and other secrets of nature we have lost.

BCP1928 said:
I looked up his bio but didn't see anything about his apprenticeship to a skilled trade. But I know from my own experience that he is wrong. Still, it is interesting that he wrote before CNC machine tools were commonly available. I wonder what he would make of your assertions that working to tolerances closer that +/- 0.025" inches is impossible without them.

Lol ok, it was just one example. Even Flinders Petrie recognised the precision vases and other works and how they stood out from other works. He was a trained archeologist and Egyptologists and in fact pioneered the sciences. This was around the turn of the century over a 100 years ago when lathing was just becoming a thing. Let alone nearly 5,000 years prior.

Flinders Petrie
"...the lathe appears to have been as familiar an instrument in the fourth dynasty, as it is in the modern workshops."

I think those who make out these vases and other works are just any old works and nothing special and even out of place for the time. That such precision vases can be produced at a time when the potters wheel was not even invented is kidding themselves.

Ai overview

Sir Flinders Petrie recognized the advanced, possibly machine-aided, technology required to produce the ancient Egyptian precision vases, which feature intricate details and smooth finishes in hard stones like granite. His 1880s findings of drill cores and tools suggested a single-point cutting method with fixed jeweled points, a technique that challenged the understanding of ancient Egyptian capabilities and indicated sophisticated processes potentially beyond handcrafting.

Dan Perez · Sunday at 7:13 PM

Marilyn C said:
Hi dan,

Yes, there were many apostles given by the Lord when He ascended to the Father.

As to the 12 apostles of the Lamb, they are for Israel as we know and not for the Body of Christ. They will rule in the New Jerusalem over the new earth and in the new heavens. (Rev. 21: 14)

And I Eph 4:11 and 12

And He , meaning. Christ , indeed , the apostles , and the. p[rophets , and the. evangelists , and the pastors.

and teacher, and I consider myself. a Teacher , and mostly like to teach the Dispensation of the Mystery as

that is the GOSPEL. that Paul taught in 2 Tim. 2. :15 and in. Romans 16:25-26 and in. Eph. 3:2. and there are MANY MORE !!

dan p

Robban · Sunday at 7:11 PM

Larniavc said:
Deuteronomy 22:24

“Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you.”

Rape victim stoned to death.

So would a Sadduccee see it, they took everything literaly.

Saducees a sect which denied the Oral Torah, the authority of the sages, angels and resurrection.

They had dominated the Sanhedrin (Supreme court) .

But praise God Almighty, Shimon ben Schetach successfully

completed the expulsion of the Sadducees in 81 BCE,

replacing them with his Torah lojal disciples.

ralliann · Sunday at 7:08 PM

Benaiah468 said:
G-d is answering our prayers, as more and more Israelis, both leaders and the people, want Israel to extend its sovereignty over more land. This is partly a response to pressure from nations to divide G-d's land and establish a "Palestinian" state (Rom 8:28). 'Sovereignty or a "Palestinian" state' is now a slogan in Israel in response to the UN General Assembly resolution.

We praise You for revealing in Isaiah, Your reason for giving Your land to Your people, so that You may be glorified. Therefore, hasten the expansion of Israel's sovereignty over Your entire land

Thy people also shall be all righteous: they shall inherit the land for ever, the branch of my planting, the work of my hands, that I may be glorified. Isa 60:21

We thank You that Netanyahu and other senior government officials have recently declared that there will never be a "Palestinian" state on Your land

The land shall not be sold for ever: for the land is mine, for ye are strangers and sojourners with me. Lev 25:23

Abba Father, since so many in Israel are now firmly opposed to a "Palestinian" state, show them that the next logical step is to extend Israeli sovereignty over all of their land

Enlarge the place of thy tent, and let them stretch forth the curtains of thine habitations: spare not, lengthen thy cords, and strengthen thy stakes; For thou shalt break forth on the right hand and on the left; and thy seed shall inherit the Gentiles, and make the desolate cities to be inhabited. Isa 54:2-3

Lord, raise up more believers who will persistently advocate for this to happen

And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us: And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him. 1 John 5:14-15

We praise You, G-d, that in the Torah You declare once again that You have not only given Your people Your land, but You have also sworn to give it to them

I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: That thou mayest love the Lord thy G-d, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the Lord sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them. Deu 30:19-20

Lord, guide Israel to rebuild its north to be more secure and populous

Enlarge the place of thy tent, and let them stretch forth the curtains of thine habitations: spare not, lengthen thy cords, and strengthen thy stakes; For thou shalt break forth on the right hand and on the left; and thy seed shall inherit the Gentiles, and make the desolate cities to be inhabited. Isa 54:2-3
a time to break down, and a time to build up; Eccl 3:3b

Shepherd of Israel, preserve the scattered Jews whom You are gathering back together

O Lord, be gracious unto us; we have waited for thee: be thou their arm every morning, our salvation also in the time of trouble. Isa 33:2
Hear the word of the Lord, O ye nations, and declare it in the isles afar off, and say, He that scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as a shepherd doth his flock. Jer 31:10

Father G-d, we praise You for always being vigilant in protecting Israel

Behold, he that keepeth Israel shall neither slumber nor sleep. Ps 121:4

and we ask You to keep Israel's security officers at checkpoints and other posts vigilant and alert

And he heard the words of Laban's sons, saying, Jacob hath taken away all that was our father's; and of that which was our father's hath he gotten all this glory. And Jacob beheld the countenance of Laban, and, behold, it was not toward him as before. Gen 31:1-2

King Messiah, protect Your people in a divine way, especially during Your autumn feasts

Thrice in the year shall all your menchildren appear before the Lord G-d, the G-d of Israel. For I will cast out the nations before thee, and enlarge thy borders: neither shall any man desire thy land, when thou shalt go up to appear before the Lord thy G-d thrice in the year. Ex 34:23-24

G-d, save so many "Palestinians" Arabs that the spirit of Islam is eradicated from Your land

For the rod of the wicked shall not rest upon the lot of the righteous; Ps 125:3a

I believe Israel is still called in Isaac, the covenant of circumcision in their flesh, is everlasting. It is an earthly covenant, and Isreal remains as long as this earth remains
1 Chronicles 16:13 O ye seed of Israel his servant, ye children of Jacob, his chosen ones.
14 He is the LORD our God; his judgments are in all the earth.
15 Be ye mindful always of his covenant; the word which he commanded to a thousand generations;
16 Even of the covenant which he made with Abraham, and of his oath unto Isaac;
17 And hath confirmed the same to Jacob for a law, and to Israel for an everlasting covenant,
18 Saying, Unto thee will I give the land of Canaan, the lot of your inheritance;

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Ps 105:6 O ye seed of Abraham his servant, ye children of Jacob his chosen.
7 He is the LORD our God: his judgments are in all the earth.
8 ¶ He hath remembered his covenant for ever, the word which he commanded to a thousand generations.
9 Which covenant he made with Abraham, and his oath unto Isaac;
10 And confirmed the same unto Jacob for a law, and to Israel for an everlasting covenant:
11 Saying, Unto thee will I give the land of Canaan, the lot of your inheritance: {lot: Heb. cord }

Daniel Martinovich · Sunday at 7:08 PM

Notice the fundamental error in the way people look at this passage because of end of the world teachings.

1st Corinthians 15:24 then the end, when He shall hand over the kingdom to the God and Father, when He shall have annulled all dominion, and all authority and power. 25 For it behooves Him to reign until He shall have put all the enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy to be abolished is death. 27 For “He has put in subjection all things under His feet.” But when it may be said that all things have been put in subjection, it is evident that the One having put in subjection all things to Him is excepted. 28 Now when all things shall have been put in subjection to Him, then also the Son Himself will be put in subjection to the One having put in subjection all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.

The end in the first verse where Christ hands the kingdom over to the Father is the cross. Before the cross Jesus annulled all dominion, authority and power.
John 18:6 shows his dominion, authority and power exercised against the government and its soldiers.
John 8:59 over mobs attempting to kill him.
John 9:1-34 over disabilities, in this case a man born blind.
Luke 4:40 over all sickness and disease.
Matthew 8:29, over demons.
John 2:1-11 and Matthew 14:15-21 over the elements.
Luke 8:22-25 over the earth.
Mark 2:3-12 over sin.
Matthew 4:1-11 over temptation.
Luke 5:4-11 over the animal kingdom.

Verses 25-26 says Jesus reigned until he put all of his enemies under his feet and then he abolished the last enemy death, with his resurrection.

Verse 27 tells us how he did this, (as a human being.) The One who put all things under his feet when he walked this earth was God his Father. Everything was put in subjection to Jesus with the exception of God the Father. Verse 28 says once all was conquered then Jesus was put in subjection to the one who subjected all things to him. This happened when Jesus voluntarily surrendered himself in the Garden of Gethsemane to the authorities’ intent on killing him.

John 16:33 I have spoken these things to you so that in Me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation. But take courage; I have overcome the world." The word overcome in this verse means to conquer and prevail in battle.
That is what Jesus did AS KING. The fundamental error is thinking that Jesus came only as a suffering servant and will someday return as a conquering king. What he did was come as a conquering king who then gave his life for the sins of the world that God may be all in all, as 1st Corinthians 15:28 says.

His kingdom that is currently being built is not modeled on the worlds kingdoms of that day. If you want to see it, or at least its effects, as it is invisible; all you have to do is look at the billions who have come to Christ in the last 500 years and how they and the Bible's influnce created a growing free world. There was no such world in any way shape or form back then.

Fear not Jesus says; Isaiah 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, on the throne of David, and on his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from now on even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

Lukaris · Sunday at 7:05 PM

I have to say that I do not fully understand what St. Paul says in 1 Corinthians 6:1-3 or assume to be worthy of it. At the very least, it seems to indicate, i hope, that God will delegate some sort of ability to assist in His will to be done. Perhaps some souls right between death & the afterlife have a chance for redemption if there is still a desire, even if clouded, for repentance, The Great Divorce by C.S. Lewis comes to mind here for me,

RocksInMyHead · Sunday at 7:04 PM

Postvieww said:
Sounds like the process worked here.

Maybe - now comes the trial.

Postvieww said:
Tell me does the often touted phrase “ no one is above the law “ apply equally here or is it just liberal jargon.

If Comey's case goes to trial, and he gets convicted by a jury of his peers, then justice will have been served. So, too, will justice be served if Comey goes to trial and is acquitted by a jury of his peers. Something tells me that you would find only one of those results acceptable.

RocksInMyHead · Sunday at 7:01 PM

Postvieww said:
Trump was well within his authority

Has anyone said otherwise?

Postvieww said:
the compromised deep state hack.

Says you, I guess. Seems like your only criteria for that is "doesn't worship God-Emperor Trump" though, so I'm not sure your opinion on the matter is worth very much.

Postvieww said:
To stay with your Batman theme the joker has been indicted. Now you riddle me this, how many swamp rats are yet to be charged?

ViaCrucis · Sunday at 7:00 PM

Jerry N. said:
I don’t live in America, but I would like to know what are the differences between “far left,” “lean left,” “far right,” and “lead right?” Where exactly is the center?

The American political compass tends to skew right if one compares it to most other Western nations.

And the question of "lean left/right" and "far left/right" can often be subjective.

One person's moderate is another person's extremist.

I would identify myself as moderate-left. I am critical of Capitalism, but I also don't believe in Marxism; so I tend to believe in regulations on corporations, social welfare systems. E.g. I support universal publicly funded healthcare, and the eradication of for-profit healthcare because I consider it immoral and corrupt; I believe in food and housing programs for persons who are strugging financially to feed and house themselves; I believe all workers deserve a living wage and thus support increasing the federal minimum wage to compensate with cost of living expenses so that nobody in my country should ever be in fear of not being able to clothe, feed, and keep a roof over their head simply because the systemic conditions of life are designed to be unjust toward the most vulnerable. I would consider these moderate-left positions.

Others, however, would likely accuse me of being an extremist Communist, even though I regard Communism (and Marxism more broadly) as unfeasable. Full blown Marxism regards the total eradication of the State, I don't support the eradication of the State; I believe that the State serves a necessary purpose: to safeguard human liberty, and to support the social conditions for human thriving in a free and just society. My neighbor deserves justice, dignity, and freedom; and thus the chief role of the State is to safeguard and promote justice, human dignity, and freedom. To that end we need a society of enforceable laws, social security and welfare systems, and guard rails that promote human thriving and curb evil. My rejection of Capitalism stems from regarding Capitalism as inherently corrupt and unjust; full blown Capitalism is nothing more than a form of social darwinism that regards human persons as nothing more than product and means in which the wealthy and powerful can use to increase their wealth and power. I reject Marxism because it is unrealistic in its utopian vision, ignores the inherent corruption within human nature, and lends itself to abuse by power-hungry tyrants. Thus the need for systems which curb evil, promote human dignity, and maximize human flourishing.

-CryptoLutheran

Oompa Loompa · Sunday at 6:48 PM

eclipsenow said:
Sure - but you go first with Gavin Newsom.
Also - assume he's just become President in 2028.

I like how he has a very calm tone in general. He can do a good job calming down the radical left, probably for a short period of time before they turn against him. He has awesome hair. Like, 1990's super villain hair. But I have already said more good things about Newsome
than most democrats can say about Trump. Now your turn. I will wait.

Edit: I will also add that he will likely win strong ties with the EU, Russia, Iran, China, and Hamas.

Dan Perez · Sunday at 6:46 PM

Bro.T said:
1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not. This is talking about the first resurrection and those who after the white throne judgement. Only then you can't sin no more.

Let's take a look at Jesus for an example of born of God, and of we know Jesus did no sin. But let's read that in 1 Peter 2: 21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: 22 who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:

Let's go to John 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Take a look at the 12th verse. It states, "The ones that received him he gave them power to become the sons of God.” Remember that you will only become a Son of God if you follow His word. Look at the 14th verse. Notice it says he is the only begotten of the Father.

What does only mean? If He (Jesus) is the only one born of God how can anyone make the statement they are born again. Only means only. If you are born of God you will not be able to sin any longer. Read this carefully in I John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Can anyone say they commit no sin? No! If you are born (born again) into the God family you must be a spirit being. Here is another verse stating Jesus is the only begotten son.

So when Jesus died and born again he had a different Body and can do other things like pop up from nowhere, etc. Look at what 1 Peter says in Ch 1: 23 being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. Paul confirm what Peter says the same thing in 1 Corthinan 15: 42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: 43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: 44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

Let's go into Luke 24:27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself. 28 And they drew nigh unto the village, whither they went: and he made as though he would have gone further. 29 But they constrained him, saying, Abide with us: for it is toward evening, and the day is far spent. And he went in to tarry with them. 30 And it came to pass, as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed it, and brake, and gave to them. 31 And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight.

Look at verse 31, once they realized that it was Jesus they spoke with, what happen? He vanished out of their sight. Remember in John chapter 3 and verse 8. The Lord gave an example of how a spirit would look. He likened a spirit to the wind.( John 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.)

Paul says in Philippians 3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

And when will this take place?

Again in I Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

At the last trump, and not a moment before.

And in 1 John 5:18 says. NOT //. OU. and is a DISJUNCATIVE PARTICLE NEGATIVE and means NEVERRRRR. ever , ever

SIN AGAIN. and you. believe that Christ will. CONDONE what you. mean ?? You. are KIDDINGGGG. , RIGHT. and just

keep on sinning as God will pardon every sin and you believe anyone would STOP SINNING. ??

And why not read 1. Cor 5:1-5 and see what Christ did to a BELIEVER. THAT WOULD NOT STOP SINNING ??

Christ killed him. in. verse 5. !!

dan p

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Notice the fundamental error in the way people look at this passage because of end of the world teachings.​

The end in the first verse where Christ hands the kingdom over to the Father is the cross. Before the cross Jesus annulled all dominion, authority and power.​

John 18:6 shows his dominion, authority and power exercised against the government and its soldiers.​

John 8:59 over mobs attempting to kill him.​

John 9:1-34 over disabilities, in this case a man born blind.​

Luke 4:40 over all sickness and disease.​

Matthew 8:29, over demons.​

John 2:1-11 and Matthew 14:15-21 over the elements.​

Luke 8:22-25 over the earth.​

Mark 2:3-12 over sin.​

Matthew 4:1-11 over temptation.​

Luke 5:4-11 over the animal kingdom.​

Verses 25-26 says Jesus reigned until he put all of his enemies under his feet and then he abolished the last enemy death, with his resurrection.​

John 16:33 I have spoken these things to you so that in Me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation. But take courage; I have overcome the world." The word overcome in this verse means to conquer and prevail in battle.​

Fear not Jesus says; Isaiah 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, on the throne of David, and on his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from now on even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.​

Deuteronomy 22:24​

Notice the fundamental error in the way people look at this passage because of end of the world teachings.​

Verses 25-26 says Jesus reigned until he put all of his enemies under his feet and then he abolished the last enemy death, with his resurrection.​

Fear not Jesus says; Isaiah 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, on the throne of David, and on his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from now on even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.​

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Notice the fundamental error in the way people look at this passage because of end of the world teachings.

The end in the first verse where Christ hands the kingdom over to the Father is the cross. Before the cross Jesus annulled all dominion, authority and power.

John 18:6 shows his dominion, authority and power exercised against the government and its soldiers.

John 8:59 over mobs attempting to kill him.

John 9:1-34 over disabilities, in this case a man born blind.

Luke 4:40 over all sickness and disease.

Matthew 8:29, over demons.

John 2:1-11 and Matthew 14:15-21 over the elements.

Luke 8:22-25 over the earth.

Mark 2:3-12 over sin.

Matthew 4:1-11 over temptation.

Luke 5:4-11 over the animal kingdom.

Verses 25-26 says Jesus reigned until he put all of his enemies under his feet and then he abolished the last enemy death, with his resurrection.

John 16:33 I have spoken these things to you so that in Me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation. But take courage; I have overcome the world." The word overcome in this verse means to conquer and prevail in battle.

Fear not Jesus says; Isaiah 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, on the throne of David, and on his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from now on even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

Deuteronomy 22:24

Notice the fundamental error in the way people look at this passage because of end of the world teachings.

Verses 25-26 says Jesus reigned until he put all of his enemies under his feet and then he abolished the last enemy death, with his resurrection.

Fear not Jesus says; Isaiah 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, on the throne of David, and on his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from now on even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.