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Let’s talk about abortion and the events of the last 52 years

My fellow Catholics, I have read the rules of the forum regarding the discussion of abortion. I whole heartedly believe in Catholic teaching that it is a grave evil that is no conduct becoming saints. It is a sin and it is mortal, rendering a soul completely cut off from God and no hope of salvation without repentance

Yet God tells us to judge not, lest we be judged. Vengeance is mine says the Lord, I will repay. In our zeal against this grave evil, we have somehow lost and alienated the souls whom God desires to save. How?

What I am about to say comes from months of prayer and standing on the front lines. I have sacrificed my career as a physician to the glory of God and I count it all loss for the cause of Christ. I have been fired for refusing to participate in tubal ligations, aka female sterilizations because it violated natural law, and I had to seek work 1500 miles from home to practice my profession and faith with a clear conscience.
Even the Catholic hospital in which I now work has physicians that do not believe in Catholic teaching. I had to stand my ground and inform them that sterilizations and transgender surgeries are not to be performed in a Catholic hospital. The CEO, the Chief Medical officer and the Chief of anesthesia do not understand Catholic teaching, and told me it is above their pay grade, but miraculously deferred to my judgment and have agreed to uphold Catholic teaching. This is my thinking and the basis of what I told them.

I told them that a Catholic Hospital is a charitable organization that provides healthcare to all, regardless of race, color, creed, religion, beliefs, opinions, etc .. Healthcare is befitting human dignity. Abortion, sterilization, and transgender surgeries are not healthcare, they are religious procedures that happen to involve medicine and surgery.
Where did that come from? We cannot have a rational discussion without an agreement on the definition of terms. Satan loves unclear definitions, which is how he presents himself as an angel of light or as wearing sheep’s clothing.
It is difficult to argue against healthcare, so the abortion lobby has fought very hard to define abortion, sterilization and transgender surgeries as health care. But are they?
My definition of healthcare, I say mine because I have not heard others speak this way, is the diagnosis and treatment of disease, as well as the maintenance of normal human function.
Abortion, sterilization and transgender surgery are not healthcare because the patient has no disease. Their body functions as a normal human and a person can live a full normal life without them. They are performed because a person believes that their life will be improved by having them done, not due to any objective criteria. This makes them religious rituals and not healthcare; therefore, they have no place in a Catholic hospital.

I submit my thoughts to you, and I have shared them with my Bishop, as well as priest and pastor and spiritual director. I have received so much spiritual consolation when I think about it, as I believe we can eradicated abortion and sterilization from the USA and eventually the world more thoroughly than if we had a world wide abortion ban. This is a danger to me as it leads to delusions of grandeur. As my friends, please rip me to shreds, take apart my argument and tell me I am crazy, but I will tell you why I think that I am not.


The greatest event in the history of the western hemisphere that they do not teach us in school, not even Catholic school in the USA, is the apparition of Our Lady of Guadalupe to Juan Diego in 1531. The apparition resulted in 10 million conversions to the Catholic Church in just 10 years and has made Mexico one of the most Catholic Countries on Earth. What happened?
The Spanish missionaries were trying to convert the Aztecs, but did not have much success. They told the Aztecs that the missionaries were bringing them news of the true God, and the Aztec Gods were either dead or impotent. The Aztecs thought that if the Spaniards were telling the truth, then the Aztecs felt as though they should die also, along with their gods. Their primary diety was named

Quetzalcōātl​


Worship of this feathered serpent diety included human sacrifice. In 1487, there was an event where 80,400 people were sacrificed over the course of 4 days. I have heard remors that there were rivers of blood flowing from their pyramids


Our Lady appears to Juan Diego, not in power and judgement clamoring for a legal ban on human sacrifice, but as a loving mother that told them sacrifice is not needed, her Son had already sacrificed Himself for the whole world.
She appeared in such a way that the Aztecs knew she is the queen of heaven, she crushes the head of their serpent god, and she takes them all in her loving arms just as they are, respecting their culture.
It is a beautiful account and the original tilma from Juan Diego is still on display in Mexico City at the Shrine or Our Lady of Guadalupe. Please read the story, I am amazed at the account the more I read about it.

What does this have to do with abortion in the USA? The Aztecs performed human sacrifice, abortion is human sacrifice. Our Lady cried for the Aztecs and she cries for the millions of souls harmed by abortion. Take a look at the bottom of the image of Our Lady of Guadalupe. There is a cherub with the wings of an eagle, and the color of those wings are red, white, and blue. Coincidence? I think not

The US constitution has the first amendment which gives us freedom of religion. If we read the text of the amendment it also prevents to government from establishing a religion. How is that significant?

By calling abortion, sterilization, contraception and transgender surgeries healthcare, when they are no such thing, the government has effectively established a religion and that is unconstitutional.

This establishment has caused irreparable harm to other’s religious freedom. What is the remedy? We have the freedom of religion, if it’s defined as religious, we have no hope of banning those procedures. Maybe, but we need faith in God

If the government is guilty of establishing a religion, then any facility that receives federal or state funds would be immediately banned from performing those procedures due to the establishment clause. That means no hospital, no clinic, no surgery center, no doctors office that receives federal or state funds would be authorized to perform these procedures

People wound have the freedom of religion to do them, but they would have to pay for them themselves and find their own practitioners. Due to the establishment clause, no medical school, college, or nursing school that receives government funding would be authorized to teach them

Right now we have states that want to fund planned parenthood, unconstitutional. Obamacare forces contraceptives and sterilization and abortion , unconstitutional .

God is prochoice, because he is love. Love is not love unless it is free. The Catholic Church teaches free will, unlike the Calvinist irresistible grace.

If there is no money in it, doctors stop performing them. If it is marked as religious, women would not be as easily deceived into having them.

Scripture says, I set before you life and death. If we follow the Lord, we walk the path of life. If we wish to follow serpent gods with unrestrained lust and debauchery, there is nothing to expect except death. Your choice

Our Lady of Guadalupe, pray for us

What do you think?

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Think of this duet as God-Jesus-Holy Spirit calling His Bride to follow Him
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"You can come as you are with just your heart
And I'll take you in though you're rejected and hurt
To me you're worth, girl, what you have within
'Cause I'll accept you as you are
You won't be denied, 'cause I'm satisfied
With the love that you can inspire

So stop your running around
'Cause now you've found what was cloudy is clear​
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Give Thanks In All Things

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“Give Thanks In All Things”
1 Thessalonians 5:16-18 NLT
Always be joyful. Never stop praying. Be thankful in all circumstances, for this is God’s will for you who belong to Christ Jesus.

Last weekend, I had the opportunity to run my first half marathon here in Mankato. This past week I have been mentally processing what happened and thinking through the whole experience. I’ve thought about how I prepared for many months to increase my distance and endurance, and then the day came in hopes for all the preparation to pay off.

I did my best to take into account what all issues I could possibly face. I wasn’t preparing for a bad race by any means, but I just went through several scenarios in my head as I mentally prepared for what might come. For months, I had been focusing on a certain pace that I wanted to keep, but as the time got closer within a couple of weeks, I finally just came to the mindset of, “I just want to finish and enjoy the experience”. That’s the attitude I took into it. I wanted to complete it…..running the whole time.

On race day, the hype of everything was amazing. Being around thousands of runners definitely gave me a “runners high”. The Saturday before I had run the course by myself to get a feel for it so that I knew what to expect. As I ran the race, I just enjoyed the experience and asked God to give me the endurance. After mile 7, I started having a side pain and knee problems. I decided to slow my pace down to help with making the pain tolerable. After a few more miles, I felt like I had it managed enough to keep running and finish. I just kept praying for God to help me finish.

As I think back, I ran into issues and I was prepared to deal with them. Thankfully, God blessed me to finish while still running. Every runner in the world would love to run a race with NO issues at all. However, that’s just not reality. Almost every runner experiences some setback at some point that is not expected.

This past week I have remembered this is exactly like life. We simply cannot expect a life that is void of any problems. That is not reality and not the life God promised us. However, He did promise to always be present with us, guiding us and helping us through. Throughout the race, I was doing my best to give God thanks no matter the outcome. No matter what obstacles I was facing, I wanted to focus on being thankful for the experience. In life, we all experience setbacks and obstacles and we need to learn to give thanks no matter the circumstances. God will bring us through. We need to adjust our attitude and see things in a different light and perspective so that we can focus on Him and trust that He knows what He is doing.

Trump's Top Gun Post

Referring to an entire political party as deplorable or those who didn’t vote for her as deplorable was wrong..
Minor correction, here is the exact quote is:
“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?”
..The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.”

She said the other half of Trump’s supporters “feel that the government has let them down” and are “desperate for change.”

So, it wasn't the entire political party, nor was it those who didn't vote for her. She referred to a subset (half) of Trump's supporters.
I don't agree with the name-calling but there is a percentage of die-hard Trump supporters who have, on their on accord, embraced the "racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic" depiction of being a "deplorable."
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A Biblical Marriage Relationship

What is this "biblical will and purpose of God for her life" to which you refer?
God’s biblical purpose and will for all of our lives, that we deny self, die to sin, submit to God's authority, surrender our lives to him, obey his commands, be his servants and messengers and teachers of the truth of the gospel, go where he sends us, and use the gifts he has given us for the mutual encouragement of the body of Christ.
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Chicago principal claims teacher who made sick Charlie Kirk gesture is the victim

A thousand unarmed people protesting at a single government building isn't a threat to government continuity.
Bear in mind, in the conversation he and I are having, he's only talking about the Oak Keepers, and there were a whopping 16 of them.
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Chicago principal claims teacher who made sick Charlie Kirk gesture is the victim

They admitted all of it. And then admitted it again when they accepted the pardon. How many times do they have to admit it?
You understand why it's called a plea deal, right? They make a deal - prosecution goes lighter on you if you do things they want, and in this case it included admitting to sedition.

I'd still like a link or something for your claim that "they spent hundreds of thousands on the arsenal".
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rapture and tribulation books

People who believe in an early rapture, that is, the snatching up of believers either before, during or straight after the Tribulation, often point to 1 Thessalonians 4:15–18. They read it as teaching that the dead in Christ rise first to meet with Christ, and then immediately afterwards, those who are alive are caught up to meet the Lord in the air. So, a rapture for all believers who are both dead and alive and they meet with the Lord in the air.

But Jesus Himself taught something different. Several times, He said believers are raised on the last day and not before. This is the end of earthly time, when He judges the world at the Great White Throne judgment.
John 6:39 – And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that of everything that He has given Me I will lose nothing, but will raise it up on the last day.
John 6:40 – For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day.
John 6:44 – No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day.
John 6:54 – The one who eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.
John 11:24 – Martha said to Him, “I know that he will rise in the resurrection on the last day.”

So, when does anyone rise before the last day? Only in the case of the martyrs. Revelation 20:4-6 speaks of an early resurrection for those who are killed for their faith. They are given white robes (Rev 6:9-11) and are raised and reign with Christ for 1,000 years, but the rest of the dead are not raised until the last day of time.
With this in mind, 1 Thessalonians 4:15–18 makes sense: “the dead in Christ” are raised first (the martyrs), and then at the last day of time, those who are left alive (and anyone in the grave) are caught up to meet the Lord in the clouds and all go to judgment at the GWT judgement.

It is clear, then, that all believers are raised on the last day, while only martyrs are raised early.
On the last day, the dead, both believers and unbelievers alike, are raised and judged.
Acts 24:15 confirms this when it says "a" resurrection: “I have hope in God, which they themselves also accept, that there will be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and the unjust.” This points to a single resurrection of all the dead, not two separate resurrections.

And Jesus also said that there will be a time when all believers and non-believers are raised and judged. In John 5:28–29 He says: “Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth, those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation.
I do like your point as it is something I have never considered. In asking google ai, about John 6, I got this response which seems correct from what I also looked up.

"Attempts to reconcile John 6 with the rapture often propose that "the last day" represents an extended period rather than a literal 24-hour day. Some argue that "the last day" encompasses the entire end-times period from the rapture to Christ's return, while others suggest the rapture itself marks "the last day" of the Church Age. Another interpretation posits that the resurrection of the dead in Christ and the rapture of living believers occur simultaneously on the "last day," meaning all believers are raised together at the end of the age."

I can't say exactly how a Pentecostal church such as the Assembly of God responds as far as John 6. However, here is there statement of beliefs concerning their affirmation of a pre-tribulation rapture. Premillennial Eschatology | Assemblies of God (USA)

If one considers some of the newer charismatic churches as Pentecostal, then I am sure that some do not agree with the pre-trib rapture view. Some I believe think the rapture already occurred. I asked google ai if any Pentecostals believed the rapture already occurred here is that answer.

"Most Pentecostals do not believe the rapture has already occurred.
The mainstream Pentecostal position follows the dispensationalist view that the rapture is a future, imminent event that will precede the seven-year Tribulation period. However, fringe or heterodox groups—including some with Pentecostal backgrounds—do hold a variant of hyperdispensationalism that claims the rapture is a past event."
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Trump's Top Gun Post

No kidding. She should've posted fake videos of defecating over red hats. Im sure the right would react with cheers of "Boy howdy she's got a wild sense of humor. Good one Hillary!"
Referring to an entire political party as deplorable or those who didn’t vote for her as deplorable was wrong. Not that I’m saying what Trump did was ok. He’s done plenty of bizarre, odd things.
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White House begins demolishing East Wing facade to build Trump’s ballroom

White House begins demolishing East Wing facade to build Trump’s ballroom

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Demolition crews have begun tearing down part of the White House to build President Donald Trump’s long-desired ballroom despite his pledge that construction of the $250 million addition wouldn’t “interfere” with the existing building.

Construction teams Monday were demolishing a portion of the East Wing, with a backhoe ripping through the structure, according to a photo shared with The Washington Post and two people who witnessed the activity and spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe it.

“It won’t interfere with the current building. It won’t be. It’ll be near it but not touching it — and pays total respect to the existing building, which I’m the biggest fan of," Trump said during an executive order signing in July.
Apparently now the cost is 300 million.

Quite impressive, a price increase of 20% in a few days, and the demolition is barely finished.
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Hubble Constant (Ho) fixed to light speed, C and calculated as 71 k/s/Mpc. God did it!!

Say the expansion rate stays at 71 k/s/Mpc, which looks likely, what then?

How exactly does any of that connect to your personal religious belief that God did it? I fail to see the connection.
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Hubble Constant (Ho) fixed to light speed, C and calculated as 71 k/s/Mpc. God did it!!

If I wanted to challenge you god, I would use the Bible. This is not the place for that. This is a place for discussing science topics.


You CAN'T derive the Hubble constant. It is a *measured* property of the current expansion rate of the Universe.
Say the expansion rate stays at 71 k/s/Mpc, which looks likely, what then?
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