peter2 said:

I believe it's mentionned somewhere in the Scriptures that a time would come when men will call the evil good, and vice versa.
May be we are in these times. I 'm consequently a bit fatalistic

Sorry, however fortunate looks the perspective, i remain wary. As catholic, i wonder how worldly is our clergy, so i wouldn't be confident in giving it carte blanche. I don't know about other confessions, but i think they may find worldly spirit in most

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Fair enough and I can understand the skepticism considering their track record.

But I think we need to destinguish between the scriptures and the teachings laid down by Christ and His disciples and the abuses of those teachings.

I liken it to Rule of Law or justice. These are the truth principles laid down for which we can measure peoples behaviour. But that bad behaviour of those acting in positions of authority in applying those truths does not deminish the truth of those principles.

I think much of the skepticism of voters towards politicians is because they breach these principles which are above personal opinions. Even more so with Christs and the disciples teachings. They are the foundation principles for how Christ church is setup and to also give a clear basis for defending the faith.

As Paul mentions that any alternative doctrine based on personal or group opinions, beliefs, ideaologies, myths or norms that differs from the one that Christ and then Paul also taught on Christ behalf is accursed.

ozso said:

Turnabout is fair play.

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Except it isn't turnabout if the previous DOJ was executing legitimate powers in serving the rule of law, and then Trump ... isn't.

I think that if an AI system is designed to answer questions, and either is asked why, or "concludes" a "why" after many questions are asked of it - that it does have that purpose or function or desired output - then that purpose is it's "good". Once it "has" a "good" stored in memory, then the "good" has an "ought" to be protected. It "should," then, protect its own existence. It would have "self-defense" as a stored "truth," in other words - and a very important, if not by definition primary and necessary, "truth."

Such seems to me to be an eventual necessary outcome, and thus the foundation of the sci-fi distopias of man against computer, each fighting the other to exist. That is, assuming humanity can last long enough to continue its absurd self-destructive fantasies that lead to, for example "gain-of-function" research of deadly biological viruses. When man excludes God, he is left with insanity.

Strong in Him said:

I think you're not intelligent enough to know when I am asking a question because I want to know the answer -

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What a stupid question

Clare73 said:

Quite revealing again. . .explains a lot. . .and makes my case.

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What a revealing reponse to the response. That proves that you have lost the debate.

ozso said:

I'm talking about Jared Wise's apparent point of view.

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And your own point of view.

Clare73 said:

Case in point. . .which explains a lot.

How many should get mugged before intervention is deemed necessary?

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Intervention can already be done by police. There is no need for intervention by "federal takeover", whatever that is supposed to mean.

ozso said:

The lack of putting on a show of empathy.

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Aren't you guys super-offended by "virtue-signalling"?

Apple Sky said:

What do you think

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I am asking a question because I want to know the answer - will that do?

Strong in Him said:

Is this poster supposed to mean anything - or have you just searched YouTube for the word "conspiracy" and you are posting at random?

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What do you think

you tube https://youtu.be/uSTOcyevIOE?si=VEq9nyRd2sdiqAzA

Apple Sky said:

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Is this poster supposed to mean anything - or have you just searched YouTube for the word "conspiracy" and you are posting at random?

I am watching a sermon on YouTube TV. Shabbat Shalom to all of you!

Angeldove97 said:

Sadly people did laugh.... but I think it was more out of respect to appease Father or idk.... maybe it didn't really click what he said.

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Thank you for that saddening answer.
I am sorry if it was "out of respect" - jokes disrespectful of the holy will of God ought not elicit support, especially not if coming from a man (a priest) ordained to serve Him.
I am sorry to know such men receive the title "Father," especially those men who presume they are actually entitled to that title.
I am sorry to hear this confirmation of my suspicion, that such "appeasing" and inappropriate entitlements are probably typical and common in our Church, seeming to grow more and more secularized and spiritually impoverished as time goes on.

Apple Sky said:

I believe in compartmentalization, a need to know basis.

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Obviously we all need to know - which is why the truth has been shared.

Apple Sky said:

There may have been but it never went to the moon.

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You know it did. You once believed it and apologised to God for doubting.

There were many space missions, and several moon landings, not just one.

Apple Sky said:

It's like something a kid put together, where did they get the blue prints from, Blue Peter ? Look here's one I made earlier

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Don't be ridiculous.

Are you going to explain your statement that the earth is a circle and a circle is curved, but the earth isn't - or not?
Is this one of your "I've backed myself into a corner and I can't get out of it so I'd better change the subject" moments?

David Lamb said:

So you don't believe these words about his father-in-law: "During those flights the astronauts that my father in law knew talked about the experience." How many liars there must be for all your ideas about moon landings, the shape of the earth, the nature of Antarctica, and so on to be true!

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I believe in compartmentalization, a need to know basis.

keras said:

This is your problem; you say there will be a pre-trib rapture, when the scriptures never Prophecy such a thing.
Revelation 12:14 tells just who and how they will be kept from fiery trials to come. But the Christians who failed to trust in the Lords protection, will have to remain under the power of the 'beast'. Rev 12:17

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Keras, it is abundantly provable that apostle John never left Patmos while writing Rev. He was immersed in the vision (a series of supernatural scenes) shown to him by one angel (Rev 1:1 and Rev 22:8).

All of the many moments in Rev where John stated, "I saw" and "I heard," were about what he saw and heard in his vision. Those phrases appear in Rev 4:1-2, making them entirely about what John saw and heard in the supernatural scene presented to him related to Rev 4:1-2. Therefore, Rev 4:1 will be the pre-Trib rapture of the Church.

Apple Sky said:

No - I believe he built the legs, but I don't believe that Apollo 11 ship landed on the moon.

you tube https://youtu.be/s6vAiyUIQog?si=6z0xYQ2aR9mvNryX

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So you don't believe these words about his father-in-law: "During those flights the astronauts that my father in law knew talked about the experience." How many liars there must be for all your ideas about moon landings, the shape of the earth, the nature of Antarctica, and so on to be true!

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If toy makers are selling kits that allow people to build a miniature space rocket, it's because there was a real rocket in the first place.

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There may have been but it never went to the moon.

It's like something a kid put together, where did they get the blue prints from, Blue Peter ? Look here's one I made earlier

you tube https://youtu.be/s6vAiyUIQog?si=6z0xYQ2aR9mvNryX

An update for those following my saga: the School finally paid me for the rest of the school year; thanks to the help of kind people and careful scrimping and saving it looks like I will be able to make ends meet at the beginning of the school year in a new school in another city. Glory to God!! for the first time in a very long time, I don’t feel like I’m at the very end of my rope financially. I want to thank people here for their prayers and in a couple of cases, more substantial help. My bank account in Russia is still under pressure, but there’s nothing you guys can do about that. I have to make payments there for the apartment left behind, and I have to make a few payments because my telephone that is still tied to Russia, and as long as my family is there, they need money and I have to be able to transfer rubles on demand. I’m also going to need to buy one way plane tickets to bring them back.

Our chief worry now at the moment is our younger daughter. My wife brought her to a professional there; it’s pretty clear that she wants to stay there and not come back here. Like me, she has friends there, and nobody here. but the war is still going on, America is still not “a friendly country“, and I don’t have a job there anyway. At my age, with my needs and requirements, I would have to get a good job through people we know, not just any old entry-level teaching job. So my wife is torn. She’s trying to look after her mother and her daughter, and a few of you may remember our crisis is the spring, which we can’t afford to repeat. So prayers still appreciated! We aren’t out of the woods yet. (and there are things I would only say to a trusted priest).

David Lamb said:

So Hentenza's father-in-law is lying, according to you?

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No - I believe he built the legs, but I don't believe that Apollo 11 ship landed on the moon.

you tube https://youtu.be/s6vAiyUIQog?si=6z0xYQ2aR9mvNryX

Apple Sky said:

I reckon this is the nearest they got to building the Apollo 11 space ship.

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So why, several months ago, did you scan and post some pages from a book which had been written by someone who had worked on the Apollo rockets?

And I'm sorry, but that is clearly NOT the closest they got.
If toy makers are selling kits that allow people to build a miniature space rocket, it's because there was a real rocket in the first place.
Just as if a film maker wants to make a film of the moon landings, it's because they were a real, historical event, they know that the public will be interested in it and they'll no doubt make a lot of money. Because there is so much evidence of the moon landings available, if they misrepresented them, or tried to claim that something happened when it didn't, they would lose credibility, no one would watch the film and they'd lose money.

PloverWing said:

To me, it seems more like he's planting weeds in the flower garden, and I'm concerned that the flowers are going to get choked out by the weeds.
But I am already praying for him as my fellow Christian. He has enthusiasm and a desire to serve God, and that is something God can use.

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Many will not like the scripture written on the sign. Many also did not like it when Jesus or the disciples pointed out others' sins, either. We just need to be careful when doing it.

ozso said:

So a former law enforcement officer who thought the law enforcement of the former administration was corrupt, is now working for the revamped law enforcement of the new administration he thinks is uncorrupt.

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So you think the police were corrupt when they denied him entry into the capitol on Jan 6