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Poll shows Biden viewed as too old to ‘effectively serve’ another term

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We gave "billions" to a Ukranian family to get back on their feet?

We're giving billions to Ukraine becaues they have the equivalent of a Maui wildfire every single day. In the past few days, there have been drone attacks raining down on Kyiv.
 
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We're giving billions to Ukraine becaues they have the equivalent of a Maui wildfire every single day. At this moment, in the past few days, there have been drone attacks raining down Hell on Kyiv.

Same for Moscow (even though the Ukrainians pinky-swore they wouldn't use our equipment inside Russia. But I'm sure they'll keep their word when they get our F-16s). :)
However, biden isn't president of Ukraine, although he'd fit in there quite well. He's "president" of the United States, and Hawaii happens to be one of those states. Priority should be for those here at home.
 
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We're giving billions to Ukraine becaues they have the equivalent of a Maui wildfire every single day. At this moment, in the past few days, there have been drone attacks raining down Hell on Kyiv.

It's an invalid comparison to begin with....
 
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Same for Moscow (even though the Ukrainians pinky-swore they wouldn't use our equipment inside Russia).
However, biden isn't president of Ukraine, although he'd fit in there quite well. He's "president" of the United States, and Hawaii happens to be one of those states. Priority should be for those here at home.

We can do both.
 
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We can do both.

With billions going to Ukraine while Hawaii gets a tiny fraction of the amount, which is nowhere near enough?
It shows us that biden sees Ukrainian oligarchs as far, far more important than Hawaiian citizens.
 
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Enough to sit in the ashes while their tax dollars go to a foreign country for people to kill each other instead of immediately needed assistance for Hawaiians?
You're now in favor of government handouts?
 
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Same for Moscow (even though the Ukrainians pinky-swore they wouldn't use our equipment inside Russia. But I'm sure they'll keep their word when they get our F-16s).

Taking up Pro-Russian talking points? Why am I not surprised...
 
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You're now in favor of government handouts?

They're going to happen no matter what. Should be more for saving lives rather than ending them.
 
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Sounds like you favor appeasement.
I favor fire victims getting the assistance their president ought to recognize they need. That won't happen as long as the current occupier of the White House sees more value in photo ops than in helping.
 
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Giving them $700 to get them back on their feet while giving billions to Ukraine at the same time didn't help either.
What amount would you find appropriate?
 
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I favor fire victims getting the assistance their president ought to recognize they need. That won't happen as long as the current occupier of the White House sees more value in photo ops than in helping.

....you have yet to establish HI victims are not getting the aid they need.

$700 was mentioned....
August 18, 2023 - noting this was 12 days ago....the inititial aid package from just one federal agency:

WASHINGTON -- Today, the Biden-Harris Administration announced that nearly 1,000 federal responders are on the ground in Hawaii to help the state recover from the devastating wildfires. In the days since President Biden declared a major disaster declaration for the state of Hawaii, FEMA has approved more than $5.6 million in assistance to nearly 2,000 households including more than $2.3 million in initial rental assistance.


....so that works out to $1,200 + 1,150 per household...which according to my calculator, is more than $700

 
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What amount would you find appropriate?
How about a billion? Ukraine has gotten well over a hundred of those so far. Can biden spare just ONE for Hawaii?
Maybe Ukraine would be willing to give one back, you know, as a sign that they're willing to give, and not just take.
 
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....you have yet to establish HI victims are not getting the aid they need.

$700 was mentioned....
August 18, 2023 - noting this was 12 days ago....the inititial aid package from just one federal agency:

WASHINGTON -- Today, the Biden-Harris Administration announced that nearly 1,000 federal responders are on the ground in Hawaii to help the state recover from the devastating wildfires. In the days since President Biden declared a major disaster declaration for the state of Hawaii, FEMA has approved more than $5.6 million in assistance to nearly 2,000 households including more than $2.3 million in initial rental assistance.


....so that works out to $1,200 + 1,150 per household...which according to my calculator, is more than $700

Enough to do what? Buy a tent and sleeping bags for 4 people? Come on, man!
 
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How about a billion? Ukraine has gotten well over a hundred of those so far. Can biden spare just ONE for Hawaii?
Maybe Ukraine would be willing to give one back, you know, as a sign that they're willing to give, and not just take.

Noting the Ukranian War has been going on for at 1.5 years.
If you're going to compare victoms of a natural disaster vs war victims, at least provide the same time span....
 
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Noting the Ukranian War has been going on for at 1.5 years.
If you're going to compare victoms of a natural disaster vs war victims, at least provide the same time span....
Oh, do you think Hawaii will be getting $113,000,000,000 over the next 1.5 years?
 
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