What makes you think Michael's going to Heaven? Killing his defenseless wife is not the way to get in.StromRider said:How very 'christian' of you. Hoping that someone is going to hell. I thought you guys were supposed to try and stop that kind of thing?
jsn112 said:What makes you think Michael's going to Heaven? Killing his defenseless wife is not the way to get in.
How is Tom's case similar to Terri? Tom's father told to many that he would not want to be living in a "vegetative" and the story is corroborated. However, that is not the same for Michael. His story is not corroborated by anyone except himself. And there are many questions go unanswered as to how Terri got to where she was and that he didn't call for help after Terri collapsed for a long period of time and that when Terri collapsed he didn't even turned Terri's head around so she can breathe after she collapsed and he didn't want Terri to be mouth-fed, etc. Too many question in this case. Like I have said that I am happy to know there is a very uncomfortable place reserve just for him. Enjoy your life now Michael...JustOneWay said:not when doctors told him that she would never awake from her vegetative state.
Do you believe Michael will be seated right next to Tom Delay, and all others that have had feeding tubes removed from their loved ones because their loved ones did not want to spend the rest of their lives in a vegetative state?
Or how about killing 1.2 million babies a year? Is that a way to get in, too?Quantos said:What about going around and hunting down christians, and helping in there stonings ? Is that a way to get in ?
StromRider said:How very 'christian' of you. Hoping that someone is going to hell. I thought you guys were supposed to try and stop that kind of thing?
So you know the condition of Michaels soul? Killing does not automatically exclude one from the kingdom of heaven.jsn112 said:What makes you think Michael's going to Heaven? Killing his defenseless wife is not the way to get in.
jsn112 said:How is Tom's case similar to Terri? Tom's father told to many that he would not want to be living in a "vegetative" and the story is corroborated. However, that is not the same for Michael. His story is not corroborated by anyone except himself. And there are many questions go unanswered as to how Terri got to where she was and that he didn't call for help after Terri collapsed for a long period of time and that when Terri collapsed he didn't even turned Terri's head around so she can breathe after she collapsed and he didn't want Terri to be mouth-fed, etc. Too many question in this case. Like I have said that I am happy to know there is a very uncomfortable place reserve just for him. Enjoy your life now Michael...
jsn112 said:Or how about killing 1.2 million babies a year? Is that a way to get in, too?
Yes, you can tell by his fruit as Jesus would say it. His vine does not produce fruit. And if a vine doesn't produce fruit, it will be cut down and throw into the fire. I can't believe I have to tell another Christian about this.JustOneWay said:So you know the condition of Michaels soul? Killing does not automatically exclude one from the kingdom of heaven.
As Ballfan would say....I cant believe I would have to tell other Christians this!
So you are saying he is going to hell?jsn112 said:Yes, you can tell by his fruit as Jesus would say it. His vine does not produce fruit. And if a vine doesn't produce fruit, it will be cut down and throw into the fire. I can't believe I have to tell another Christian about this.
Let's put this way...has Michael produced any fruit that you see?JustOneWay said:So you are saying he is going to hell?
Harpuia said:Brrr... that was cold.
The thing is, I know it's hard for anyone to be convinced that she should have a right to live. But I know for sure that he got away with murder. A feeding tube isn't the life support I was thinking of. I know what life support is, because I know many families who had to pull the plug, for real, and the person died within minutes.
It didn't take 2 weeks to "kill" that person, it only took about 1-2 minutes. If anything, the person was probably already dead at the time of life support anyway. That proves to me that a feeding tube is not life support. It's starving and dehydrating someone to death.
I honestly dont know the guy, and according to the Bible....faith in Jesus is all you need brother. I have no special talent to look into anyones soul....I am not even sure of my own salvation.jsn112 said:Let's put this way...has Michael produced any fruit that you see?
mhatten said:Apparently you don't know what life support is, it comes in various measures and when you sign papers at the hospital as to what type of support to get or deny you have to specify.
Also it wasn't cold, it was quite simply the facts. A feeding tube is attached to an IV pump (machine) that automatically feeds liquid nutrition into the stomach. You couldn't have poured it down her throat because she would asphyxiated. she needed a machine to sustain her.
The only issue is did she want to be in that state, a vegetable with 99.9999999% chance of no recovery (in other words virtually no possibility) and her husband, the courts and friends said she did not. It is not up to the rest of the country to make that determination.
jsn112 said:Let's put this way...has Michael produced any fruit that you see?
Oh come on...Michael adamantly refused to have Terri feed any other way except through a feeding tube. I would love to have seen what Terri could without the feeding tube. One of the nurse fed Terri through the mouth just fine. And then Michael walked in and saw that, he got really upset and wanted Terri to be put back on the feeding tube. Please don't defend Michael. His actions are too suspicious. If his story didn't have holes, I wouldn't be this involved. But that is not the case. He personifies evil.mhatten said:Apparently you don't know what life support is, it comes in various measures and when you sign papers at the hospital as to what type of support to get or deny you have to specify.
Also it wasn't cold, it was quite simply the facts. A feeding tube is attached to an IV pump (machine) that automatically feeds liquid nutrition into the stomach. You couldn't have poured it down her throat because she would asphyxiated. she needed a machine to sustain her.
The only issue is did she want to be in that state, a vegetable with 99.9999999% chance of no recovery (in other words virtually no possibility) and her husband, the courts and friends said she did not. It is not up to the rest of the country to make that determination.