Open Letter to Michael Schiavo-Frank Pavone

[Harpuia]

Based on what I've read.. proceeds from the Schindler book will go to charity. I read it a few months ago, when talk of the book was first published. But here is a recent link mentioning it too.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060326/ts_nm/rights_schiavo_dc

What about Mikey's book? Does he keep all the money?

 

[jsn112]

Yep they're all money hungry - yeah, even the parents.

I don't mean to be picky, but this statement is pretty insulting. I don't know about your household, but If the parents are money hungry, then they would have prostituted Terri for money or something a long time ago. But they didn't. Instead, they spend a lot of their money to fight for Terri's life.

 

[Harpuia]

I don't mean to be picky, but this statement is pretty insulting. I don't know about your household, but If the parents are money hungry, then they would have prostituted Terri for money or something a long time ago. Instead, they spend a lot of money to fight for Terri's life.

Now this is a little problem. Because then you can't say Mikey's money hungry either because he spent a lot of money to legally murder Terri.

And if I remember correctly, unless he sells 500,000 copies of his book, he won't be getting back the money he spent on the settlement/case.

 

[jsn112]

Now this is a little problem. Because then you can't say Mikey's money hungry either because he spent a lot of money to legally murder Terri.

And if I remember correctly, unless he sells 500,000 copies of his book, he won't be getting back the money he spent on the settlement/case.

I do think Michael is money hungry, but not from the book sales. Before he won his $1 millions lawsuit, he was great to Terri. He was taking care of her and everything. But after he won, he suddenly wanted Terri to die. That's a big change in heart at a crucial timeline, isn't it?

 

[Harpuia]

I do think Michael is money hungry, but not from the book sales. Before he won his $1 millions lawsuit, he was great to Terri. He was taking care of her and everything. But after he won, he suddenly wanted Terri to die. That's a big change in heart at a crucial timeline, isn't it?

Yeah, read one of my previous posts. I stated that.

 

[Oblivious]

I don't mean to be picky, but this statement is pretty insulting. I don't know about your household, but If the parents are money hungry, then they would have prostituted Terri for money or something a long time ago. But they didn't. Instead, they spend a lot of their money to fight for Terri's life.

Oh, but they DID!

Link

Sickening.

A lot of their money? They had plenty of "help" spending money on Terri.

 

[Oblivious]

Oh...and IBTL.

 

[jsn112]

Oh, but they DID!

Link

Sickening.

A lot of their money? They had plenty of "help" spending money on Terri.

Do you think the attorney costs is cheap? I am not saying what the parents did was right. But I am not saying it's wrong, either. But without money the fight would not have happened. I would have done the same thing, too. I didn't fault Michael for his book deal. In fact, I expected it. My suspicion of him was when he won the million $ lawsuit. After he won, his attitude towards Terri suddenly changed. He knew his prize money would dwindle down if Terri was still alive. I don't think Michael foreseen the fight he was going to get from the parents though.

 

[skipper]

I hope that in this situation my husband would continue to fight for me, even if he had moved on with his life. If it was the money why didn't he take the 250,000 that was offered him to sign Terri over to her parents. And as far as the fondation goes who runs it and do they get paid. My bet is yes.

 

[JPPT1974]

I saw him on tv
He seemed that he was making the parents
Out to be the bad guys
What a heartless jerk Schavio is!

 

[Sundragon2012]

The autopsy supported Michael's position along with that of the physicians who stated repeatedly that Terri was in a PVS. She could not recover, she was blind and much of her brain was liquified. NO evidence exists of wrongdoing on the part of either Michael or the hospital.

Those who want to believe that Terri was murdered refuse to look at the FACTS and instead fall back to emotional rhetoric designed to spin the facts of the case into a conspiracy of evil that simply did not exist.

Isn't there something about not bearing false witness in the Bible? Isn't claiming that Micheal or the Hospital abused/murdered Terri bearing false witness when all the evidence indicates that these things simply aren't true?

Also, because we have no evidence that Michael did anything wrong or was in any way particularly moraly deficient, we can assume he was telling the truth about Terri's final wishes. Her wishes to die given a set of circumstances like this trumps her parent's desire to keep her alive.


)o( Blessed Be,

Chris

 

[SummerMadness]

Summer,

I think the point that Michael was "shady" in the first place had something to do with people's reactions. Also, b/c he was playing house with another woman while still legally married.

Facts are facts, though. You are right.

I would be playing house too if my wife was a brain dead hunk of flesh and court orders were preventing me from pulling the plug. To expect me to remain single and fight for over a decade to fulfill her wishes is ridiculous. People are very quick to judge this man without even taking the chance to be in his shoes.

If your loved one said, "Don't keep me on machines," I think it would be wrong if you let them keep him/her on machines. Saying just get a divorce is also wrong because you're abandoning a pact the to of you made.

 

[kiwimac]

The autopsy supported Michael's position along with that of the physicians who stated repeatedly that Terri was in a PVS. She could not recover, she was blind and much of her brain was liquified. NO evidence exists of wrongdoing on the part of either Michael or the hospital.

Those who want to believe that Terri was murdered refuse to look at the FACTS and instead fall back to emotional rhetoric designed to spin the facts of the case into a conspiracy of evil that simply did not exist.

Isn't there something about not bearing false witness in the Bible? Isn't claiming that Micheal or the Hospital abused/murdered Terri bearing false witness when all the evidence indicates that these things simply aren't true?

Also, because we have no evidence that Michael did anything wrong or was in any way particularly moraly deficient, we can assume he was telling the truth about Terri's final wishes. Her wishes to die given a set of circumstances like this trumps her parent's desire to keep her alive.


)o( Blessed Be,

Chris

Fine post.

Kiwimac

 

[jsn112]

The autopsy supported Michael's position along with that of the physicians who stated repeatedly that Terri was in a PVS. She could not recover, she was blind and much of her brain was liquified. NO evidence exists of wrongdoing on the part of either Michael or the hospital.

Those who want to believe that Terri was murdered refuse to look at the FACTS and instead fall back to emotional rhetoric designed to spin the facts of the case into a conspiracy of evil that simply did not exist.

Isn't there something about not bearing false witness in the Bible? Isn't claiming that Micheal or the Hospital abused/murdered Terri bearing false witness when all the evidence indicates that these things simply aren't true?

Also, because we have no evidence that Michael did anything wrong or was in any way particularly moraly deficient, we can assume he was telling the truth about Terri's final wishes. Her wishes to die given a set of circumstances like this trumps her parent's desire to keep her alive.


)o( Blessed Be,

Chris

There's a difference between fact and then there are facts. You might want to give Michael a green light no matter what because of the X-ray picture? Is that all you have? Why don't you go back to the beginning of this topic and answer all the questions about his suspicious behaviors that he never answered.

 

[jsn112]

I would be playing house too if my wife was a brain dead hunk of flesh and court orders were preventing me from pulling the plug. To expect me to remain single and fight for over a decade to fulfill her wishes is ridiculous. People are very quick to judge this man without even taking the chance to be in his shoes.

If your loved one said, "Don't keep me on machines," I think it would be wrong if you let them keep him/her on machines. Saying just get a divorce is also wrong because you're abandoning a pact the to of you made.

Then why don't you ask Michael why he didn't bring the part where Terri said she didn't want to be kept on the feeding tube while she was PVS until AFTER he won the $ million lawsuit? Do you know why he didn't? It's because he would have never had he chance to win the case or that Terri never said it in the first place.

 

[Sundragon2012]

There's a difference between fact and then there are facts. You might want to give Michael a green light no matter what because of the X-ray picture? Is that all you have? Why don't you go back to the beginning of this topic and answer all the questions about his suspicious behaviors that he never answered.

What FACTS supported by medical science or doctors who attended Terri do you folks have that is unknown to people who, like myself, disagree with you?

All I have ever seen as evidence of her supposed responsiveness was suggestively edited piece of film by someone whose unsupported BELIEFS assumed that Terri was still at home in that empty shell of a body.

The actual evidence indicates that her brain was partially liquified and that she could never recover and on top of that she was blind. All the nonsense about her looking at folks who presented stimuli was just that nonsense. According to doctors, all that was left of Terri was primitive nerve responses.

Terri was a vegetable, she could not recover, she had no hope. According to the husband she loved and who presumably loved her, she wished to be allowed to die naturally in a circumstance like this.

I am a spiritual person, so I believe that miracles happen, but we cannot presume evil intentions from those we disagree with. We cannot presume that Michael was lying without EVIDENCE to support this claim. There was NO EVIDENCE of wrongdoing on the part of anyone involved.

I would like to know what evidence you have that debunks the evidence presented by trained physicians regarding this matter.


)o( Blessed Be,

Chris

 

[jsn112]

What FACTS supported by medical science or doctors who attended Terri do you folks have that is unknown to people who, like myself, disagree with you?

All I have ever seen as evidence of her supposed responsiveness was suggestively edited piece of film by someone whose unsupported BELIEFS assumed that Terri was still at home in that empty shell of a body.

The actual evidence indicates that her brain was partially liquified and that she could never recover and on top of that she was blind. All the nonsense about her looking at folks who presented stimuli was just that nonsense. According to doctors, all that was left of Terri was primitive nerve responses.

Terri was a vegetable, she could not recover, she had no hope. According to the husband she loved and who presumably loved her, she wished to be allowed to die naturally in a circumstance like this.

I am a spiritual person, so I believe that miracles happen, but we cannot presume evil intentions from those we disagree with. We cannot presume that Michael was lying without EVIDENCE to support this claim. There was NO EVIDENCE of wrongdoing on the part of anyone involved.

I would like to know what evidence you have that debunks the evidence presented by trained physicians regarding this matter.


)o( Blessed Be,

Chris

Is that all you got to come to the conclusion that Michael is innocent? You don't think Michael's action and attitude are at all suspicious? Did you even follow the whole event? I am not going to be redundant again. I dare you to go to the beginning of this topic and read and answer the questions I have posted. If you're not a one trick pony, you'll do that.

 

[invisible trousers]

What is fueling this debate? Really? What is going on?

The culture of rhetoric, oh I mean culture of life, can't stop lying, can't stop being dishonest, and can't stop deliberately ignoring basic facts about what happened.

Isn't there something about not bearing false witness in the Bible? Isn't claiming that Micheal or the Hospital abused/murdered Terri bearing false witness when all the evidence indicates that these things simply aren't true?

Delusional people tend not to worry about such things.

What FACTS supported by medical science or doctors who attended Terri do you folks have that is unknown to people who, like myself, disagree with you?

None. If it wasn't already obvious, it should be by now.

 

[night2day]

The autopsy supported Michael's position along with that of the physicians who stated repeatedly that Terri was in a PVS. She could not recover, she was blind and much of her brain was liquified....

Then apparently you never read the actual autopsy where time and again the doctrors and neurologists stated it was impossible to state there was a definate diagnosis of "PVS". Especially from an autopsy. Or have you?

I have. And I've read it. And I read what the specialists and corenor stated,

There were many other disturbing things within her autopsy that indicated severe neglect.

One of which is, how many doctors would allow a temporary surgical implant meant only to remain for testing within the patient's brain to be left in for 7-9 yrs. where by that time there would have been brain swellling, infection, and more damage?

Yes, she was brain damaged. But not brain dead. So what if she was blind and unable to see except for a rather close range! And why the focus on "recovery", complete or otherwise? A disabled person will always remain a person...whether someone attempts to define them as having a low quality of life and therefore too much of a drain on resourses.

The so-called "PVS" diagnosis was made by one of the more prominant doctors spearheading the euthanasia movement, formaly known as the Hemlock Society and now known as "Life Choices", within the medical community. He had worked with George Felos, Micheal Shiavo's lawyer, many times on these "right to die" cases before Terri Shinder-Shiavo and will undoubtedly continue to do so to further their cause.

Too many people seem to place the worth of an individual on how much they can contribute to soiety, then brush them aside when they no longer can. It's happened to the infants in the womb, elderly, then the disabled. And now the targets have gone over to include children as one can see by merely watching the nightly news. Or notice how very few states will even venture to pass laws protecting children from predetors.

The writer of the open letter was calling a spade was a spade, nothing more.

 

[Ginny]

I would be playing house too if my wife was a brain dead hunk of flesh and court orders were preventing me from pulling the plug.

More power to ya.

To expect me to remain single and fight for over a decade to fulfill her wishes is ridiculous. People are very quick to judge this man without even taking the chance to be in his shoes.

. Here you say that to stay and fight for her is being ridiculous...yet at the end of the post you state he should not abandon her b/c of a pact? I don't have to be in someone's shoes to know what I would do when it comes to what God commands me to do in matters of marriage....or anything else for that matter. Does one not have a brain until said event occurs?

If your loved one said, "Don't keep me on machines," I think it would be wrong if you let them keep him/her on machines.

I agree. I have never argued that. My point.... is that he should have stayed married until she passed away without committing adultery in the meantime. He needed to choose what he wanted to do. Well, I guess he did...playing house and staying married.

Saying just get a divorce is also wrong because you're abandoning a pact the to of you made.

Well, it depends who the "pact" is made to. Each other? God? If it's God Almighty, then he already abandoned his marriage when he slept with another woman while remaining legally married to Terri.