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NSA investigating Pentagon UFO reports - An "Adversary with that kind of technology"

Discussion in 'News & Current Events (Articles Required)' started by BobRyan, Jun 12, 2021.

  1. BobRyan

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    at 2:40 in the video "if there is an adversary with THAT kind of technology we need to be very very careful".

    NASA turned this over to their chief scientists to see if they can help us determine what it is.

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    Hmmm another indicator that it is not hand-puppets and window-glare or a talented flock of birds that navy is chasing.

    It is destined to be "yet another" - science-vs-Bible debate area
     
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  2. Pommer

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    Fourth dimension objects will cast a three-dimensional shadow. Maybe this is that?
     
  3. Freth

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    From an early age, I was into UFO's. Dad would watch shows like In Search Of (Leonard Nemoy) and Cosmos (Carl Sagan). Through the 90's, the UFO craze was all about Roswell and various other stories. I ate it up. And then the 2000's hit and the subject waned, as did any real sightings. And now, here we are, in the last days of the end time and stuff like this pops up on the radar (pun intended). At some point, before I came back to Christianity, I let go of the interest in UFO's. It just isn't in me to care any more about it, when I have greater things to look forward to. I understand the implications. Project Blue Beam and all of that. I just can't find any reason to put stock in it these days. That's not to take away from your thread, but that's how I feel about it.
     
  4. BobRyan

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    Rev 16 - has Armageddon - in that section "something" goes to the governments of "all the Earth" and tells them to assemble their armies and weapons at a given location for war. In Rev 19 we see the armies all assembled and ready for war. Who are they fighting in Rev 19?

    Answer: "The second Coming of Christ" coming down out of heaven with "armies" according to Rev 19.

    How in the world did governments of the Earth ever get convinced that something they need to fight would be coming down out of the sky - from "space"?

    One thing is for sure - they were not told "Jesus the Savior of the World is coming to gather His saints". They were told "Some other story"
     
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  5. BobRyan

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    Whatever it is - it may fit into the Rev 16 and Rev 19 future scenario where mankind is "setup" to expect to have to oppose something coming from space - with the force of the militaries of the world.
     
  6. Freth

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    You bring up a very important point. That they have to know ahead of time, to amass their armies for war. I was discussing with my mother not too long ago, because this had occurred to me as well. I think the answer is staring us in the face.

    Consider these points:

    1. Every eye will see Him and all kindreds of the earth will wail because of Him (Revelation 1:7).
    2. Men of all kinds, from kings of the earth to the common man, will hide themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains (Revelation 6:15-17). They are hiding from His face.
    3. Heaven opens up and Jesus comes with His armies, to make war (Revelation 19:11-14).
    4. The birds are called to the supper of the great God, just before Jesus arrives (Revelation 19:15-18).
    5. The beast and the kings of the earth gather together to make war with Jesus (Revelation 19:19).

    What do all of these points have in common? They require time to take place (especially 2 and 5), which points to the visibility of Jesus as a prolonged event that all will see.

    At first, only the beast and the kings of the earth will be aware, because they will see Him coming from afar. i.e. Who has the most advanced technologies in the world? Who owns a telescope named after a fallen being? There's no need for them to be told or there to be a Project Blue Beam type scenario.

    At some point, the heaven rolls back like a scroll and His approach will be visible to all. Jesus still comes as a thief, because it will be a surprise, but the events that need to take place require a heads up of some kind, so there is time for the prophesied reactions to happen; again, everyone from a king to a common man will require time to react as per prophecy, hiding, moving to the mountains and dens, etc. Thus, my conclusion is that Jesus will be seen coming for some time in the sky before He actually arrives and every eye will see Him.

    I would also point to Life Sketches 66,67 and/or Heaven (2003) 47.2 as possible insight into the time frame of His approach.

    Of course, I could be wrong, but it makes sense to me.
     
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  7. Freth

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    Revelation 16:13-14 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon [-->], and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

    A reference to the false trinity? The dragon, the beast and the false prophet, working together to gather the kings of the earth together for battle. It seems to me that it's talking about the false trinity exercising its full power (given by the dragon), to convince the powers of the world to gather for war. I would think there would need to be some serious convincing to make war with Jesus coming in the clouds and that Satan will have to use all of his power (including "miracles") and influence to make it happen.
     
  8. TravisD

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    I have always found this kind of thing intriguing! Is it is a military project, a private billionaire project or an alien? I couldn't say. But I can say with full confidence, regardless of what it is, it does not nullify the Word of God. If God wants to create life on Mars, he will do so. So I don't understand the science-vs-Bible debate reference but that's just me. I know people try to separate science and the bible, but with a Sovereign God that is absolutely unnecessary. It fits together very well. But... I suppose that might be debate territory. I really don't want to go there:) I'm sure that is all covered in another thread, or two, or ten....
     
  9. mindlight

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    Blurry inconclusive imagery about which no definite conclusions can be drawn is not proof of extraterrestrials. Alternate explanation were given, this could be Russian, Chinese, Domestic or a natural phenomena.
     
  10. Lost4words

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    NASA investgating UFO's. Should read, NASA has always been investigating UFO's
     
  11. BobRyan

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    All the news agencies report that much more detailed observation data / recording is included in the report but they release the least descriptive cell-phone-ish vids for the general public. The idea that the military classifies all blurry images as top secret technology is harder to believe than what the news and military are currently admitting to..
     
  12. BobRyan

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    My inside sources at NASA do not claim NASA has always been investigating UFO's - so I don't know where you get your ideas from.
     
  13. BobRyan

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    It says "spirits of devils" go forth... and whatever form whatever storyline they present to all governments on Earth - the focus they have is on getting all the military power of all nations to gather for war - in Rev 16.

    In Rev 19 we see them gathered - and Rev 19 says that the two armies that meet - are Christ and the armies of heaven - vs - mankind's armies. (Does not end well for mankind's armies of course).

    But the Bible plainly tells us that mankind is "setup" to believe that all of its military power needs to be "assembled" (as we do for all other wars) and prepare to fight - so how interesting that they are told to think that an invading army from space is approaching when in fact it is the Creator and the armies of heaven that is approaching from space.
     
  14. BobRyan

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    So then "the message" that they are getting in Rev 16:14 must include the idea of preparing for war against something from space. Since that is the end-result in Rev 19

    If that message went out today - for a battle tomorrow - no country could do it. What is more we probably would feel that we do not even have the right weapons/hardware for that sort of battle with no more notice than 24 hours. It is a longer process that Satan would need to get everyone on the same page, train them for the sort of battle they might expect, and get them bought-in to the entire concept of a war between Earth and "something" showing up from space.

    Recall that about 15 years ago - all we were looking
     
  15. Lost4words

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    Lol, look whos talking!
     
  16. Guinan

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    I don't trust NASA to be any more honest about UFOs then I trust the U.S. government to be honest. NASA has repeatedly cut off its live feed whenever a mysterious object(s) appears around the ISS.
     
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    Mysterious UFOs Seen by WWII Airman Still Unexplained
    UFO sightings have been an ongoing thing for a long time. The above article shows that what we are seeing today is not from any of our current advisories.

    The most dramatic military encounter was an exhibition shown on the evening news in the 1980s. An ICBM missile was fired at a stationary UFO on the edge of space. When it looked like the missle was just about to connect, the UFO made a sudden 90 degree turn leaving the missile to continue on into space.
     
  18. BobRyan

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    maybe so - but in that case the new head of NASA made the unwitting admission that if the technology shown in the Pentagon report data files was actually in the hands of a real life adversary on Earth "it would be a problem".

    Thus they negate the option of "hand puppets, flock of birds, window glare" etc.
     
  19. Ana the Ist

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    Bible?
     
  20. Ana the Ist

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    Operative word being "if"
     
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