Masks can help you stop the virus

[FenderTL5]

This claims that you have a medical condition that prevents you from wearing a mask. It is thus a lie (for most readers), in aid of putting people around you at more risk. I hope you don't wear any Christian symbols or make any statements implying that you're a Christian while doing this.

Further, the entire FB posting is lie.

 

[hedrick]

It's a lie

*COVID-19 ALERT: Fraudulent Face Mask Flyers*
These postings were not issued by the Department and are not endorsed by the Department.

No, but what it says may well be true. Mask orders normally exempt people with medical conditions that make masks dangerous for them. I do believe that someone in a store doesn't have the right to ask you what the condition is. All you have to say is "I have a medical condition that makes wearing a mask inadvisable," which is what the form says.

We can't put police every 6 feet across the US. We have to depend upon people to cooperate. In many places they do. More or less in inverse proportion to the number of Christians there. Not a good witness.

 

[Hawkins]

It would be interesting, but as someone who's made a good living for many years doing statistical analyses I wouldn't hang my hat on it.

Live statistics are in China, Taiwan and Hong Kong where people are wearing masks with no exception. Covid-19 is kept under control in those highly populated regions.

IMO, masks are with no use if the virus is airborne. Masks actually work in a similar way of social distancing, that is, to effectively prevent the contract from oral saliva.

 

[JohnDB]

Well they have a cure...

It's not a great cure but soon this will be a moot point.

Vanderbilt, AstraZeneca collaborate on new COVID-19 antibody research

 

[Sophrosyne]

A spike in Tulsa after the rally where they weren't wearing masks is relevant. The spike in Florida after they ignored warnings to use social distancing and masks is relevant. The decrease in the death rate in countries that extensively use social distancing and masks is relevant.

And before and during the rally we had protests going on in the city for several weeks before and after the rally and those people probably infected a lot more people than a 1 time one day rally did. Compare 6000 people that probably didn't stay longer than a day or two with thousands that utterly lived here for several weeks... I'm not buying into the rally being a huge influence on the spike at all.

 

[chilehed]

Well they have a cure...

I think that's an overstatement.

 

[FenderTL5]

No, but what it says may well be true. Mask orders normally exempt people with medical conditions that make masks dangerous for them. I do believe that someone in a store doesn't have the right to ask you what the condition is. All you have to say is "I have a medical condition that makes wearing a mask inadvisable," which is what the form says.

We can't put police every 6 feet across the US. We have to depend upon people to cooperate. In many places they do. More or less in inverse proportion to the number of Christians there. Not a good witness.

The Facebook post, which is the text of a phoney card being passed around is a lie in it's entirety.
No such card exists. It fraudently names government agencies and uses a fake agency name as well.
It would be decent joke if the ignorant didn't take it seriously.

 

[Sophrosyne]

from the in-box this morning

Your Mask Cuts Own Risk by 65 Percent July 6, 2020
Your Mask Cuts Own Risk by 65 Percent

Scientific evidence is clear: Social distancing and wearing masks help prevent people from spreading COVID-19, and masks also protect those who wear them, two UC Davis Health experts said on UC Davis LIVE: COVID-19.

A range of new research on face coverings shows that the risk of infection to the wearer is decreased by 65 percent, said Dean Blumberg, chief of pediatric infectious diseases at UC Davis Children’s Hospital.

I browsed at the "study" and noticed some things in it that are concerning.
1)it is most about data from healthcare workers
2) it talks about 10.. yes 10 layer masks!
3) it doesn't take into account differing mask types or mentions that as a variable whatsoever
I am assuming that this study is of high quality masks and if an N95 or 10 layer mask is only 65% effective then a 1 layer mask is probably only from 3%=10% effective with only 10% of the layers.

 

[BABerean2]

This claims that you have a medical condition that prevents you from wearing a mask. It is thus a lie (for most readers), in aid of putting people around you at more risk. I hope you don't wear any Christian symbols or make any statements implying that you're a Christian while doing this.

I have an irritation on the bridge of my nose today, caused by the full facemask I wear with my CPAP machine every night.

I have central sleep apnea, which is an extreme form of the condition.

Who is the accuser of the Brethren?

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[BABerean2]

It's a lie

*COVID-19 ALERT: Fraudulent Face Mask Flyers*
These postings were not issued by the Department and are not endorsed by the Department.

Call the phone number to see if it is a legitimate number.

All truth is not issued by a government department.

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[FenderTL5]

Call the phone number to see if it is a legitimate number.

Yes the real ADA number was printed on a fraudulent card (see previous link).
and this one

 

[BABerean2]

Yes the real ADA number was printed on a fraudulent card (see previous link).

The card was produced by a person, instead of a government entity.

That person's name is Joy McDaniel Myers.

That does not make it "fraudulent".

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[FenderTL5]

The card was produced by a person, instead of a government entity.

That person's name is Joy McDaniel Myers.

That does not make it "fraudulent".

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If Joy McDaniel Myers is pretending to be from the ADA, when the ADA is not associated, it is fraudulent.

The Department of Justice is now warning that a card circulating online is falsely claiming its holder is lawfully exempt from wearing a mask.

A recently issued alert by the department is urging the public not to heed information printed on the fraudulent cards, which purport to carry the authority of the "Freedom to Breathe Agency," which is neither a federal nor a state agency.

the ADA link provided indicates it is "fraudulent"

 

[BABerean2]

If Joy McDaniel Myers is pretending to be from the ADA, when the ADA is not associated, it is fraudulent.

If a person quotes regulations from a government department, does that make the quote "fraudulent"?

If I quoted part of the Constitution of the United States and posted it here, would that make the quote "fraudulent"?

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[Archivist]

I thought this piece from Forbes magazine does a particularly good job addressing this issue: Top 10 Excuses Offered For Not Wearing Masks Despite Covid-19 Coronavirus

This didn't come out all that long ago, but it is worth noting that we had had over 30,000 additional deaths since it was published.

For those claiming that they cannot wear a mask due to medical issues, here is what the article says:

"Vicky Forster has already covered and debunked for Forbes claims that wearing masks will affect your immune system or give you carbon dioxide poisoning. Assuming that your mask is not made out of some strange material like cement or Viagra patches, the mask should not harm you as long as you can breathe reasonably comfortably through it and aren’t allergic to the material. To be sure, give the mask a test run, or rather a test wear, at home before going outside with it. If you can’t breathe, that’s not good. You may be either using too many layers or the wrong material. Cinder block material is not good for a mask, for example. If you feel like your head is going to explode, the mask maybe on too tight. There are very few situations in which “head about to explode” is a good sign.

To be fair, there are some medical conditions such as a real skin or respiratory problems that could impede your ability to wear a regular mask. In such a case, talk to your doctor to get advice on how to handle the situation."

 

[FenderTL5]

If a person quotes regulations from a government department, does that make the quote "fraudulent"?

If I quoted part of the Constitution of the United States and posted it here, would that make the quote "fraudulent"?

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If you're comfortable spreading lies, that's your prerogative.

US Justice Department Statement


The Department of Justice Warns of Inaccurate Flyers and Postings Regarding the Use of Face Masks and the Americans with Disabilities Act
Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division Eric Dreiband reiterated today that cards and other documents bearing the Department of Justice seal and claiming that individuals are exempt from face mask requirements are fraudulent.

Inaccurate flyers or other postings have been circulating on the web and via social media channels regarding the use of face masks and the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Many of these notices included use of the Department of Justice seal and ADA phone number.

As the Department has stated in a previous alert, the Department did not issue and does not endorse them in any way. The public should not rely on the information contained in these postings.

The ADA does not provide a blanket exemption to people with disabilities from complying with legitimate safety requirements necessary for safe operations.
The public can visit ADA.gov or call the ADA Information Line at 800-514-0301 (voice) and 800-514-0383 (TTY) for more information.

 

[BABerean2]

If you're comfortable spreading lies, that's your prerogative.

The lies spread about COVID-19 are the real problem.

The 1918 Spanish Flu killed at least 10% of those infected, but healthy people were not put in quarantine.


Why did Fauci say wearing masks was not necessary for the average person, during an interview with CBS news?

James Corbett reports on the agenda behind the virus in the video below.

Some of us should go ahead and get in line, and roll up your sleeve...

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[FenderTL5]

The lies spread about COVID-19 are the real problem..

That does not justify your continued defense of a lie.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

When the mask rules went into effect I went to my garage and found the box of masks I used when I was doing some drywall sanding...got them from Lowes.

Yesterday while at an appointment they had surgical style masks available...so I used one knowing it'll be a bit more comfortable.

Wearing the mask I noticed with each exhale my glasses would fog up then clear with each inhale.

That's a crystal clear indication that my exhale was entering the room and my inhale was breathing in the unfiltered air from the room.

How many out there have experienced that?

I've experienced that and so have most others.

But your conclusion that "that's a crystal clear indication that my exhale was entering the room and my inhale was breathing in the unfiltered air from the room" is misleading, at best.

Nobody has claimed that masks of any sort completely filter your exhale from entering the room or your inhale coming from the room. What the mask does is filter much of your exhale while also filtering some of your inhale. Masks have never been touted to be 100% filtering every breath in and out.

From what I've read about even the least effective masks you're filtering out about 50% of your exhale and about 10-20% of your inhale. That is enough to greatly slow the spread of the virus, not completely stop it. So while it's never been claimed to be a perfect solution it is proven that it is effective in greatly reducing the spread of the virus.

And you shouldn't have to even hear this from scientists. Anyone with common sense can figure out that if you breathe in through a mask it will definitely catch SOME particles from entering your mouth and nose, and that if you breathe out through a mask it will definitely catch SOME of the droplets and particles coming out of your mouth and nose.

People who refuse to wear masks are being ultra-selfish and that is not what God's Word teaches us to be.

 

[-57]

I've experienced that and so have most others.

But your conclusion that "that's a crystal clear indication that my exhale was entering the room and my inhale was breathing in the unfiltered air from the room" is misleading, at best.

Nobody has claimed that masks of any sort completely filter your exhale from entering the room or your inhale coming from the room. What the mask does is filter much of your exhale while also filtering some of your inhale. Masks have never been touted to be 100% filtering every breath in and out.

From what I've read about even the least effective masks you're filtering out about 50% of your exhale and about 10-20% of your inhale. That is enough to greatly slow the spread of the virus, not completely stop it. So while it's never been claimed to be a perfect solution it is proven that it is effective in greatly reducing the spread of the virus.

And you shouldn't have to even hear this from scientists. Anyone with common sense can figure out that if you breathe in through a mask it will definitely catch SOME particles from entering your mouth and nose, and that if you breathe out through a mask it will definitely catch SOME of the droplets and particles coming out of your mouth and nose.

People who refuse to wear masks are being ultra-selfish and that is not what God's Word teaches us to be.

You're kinda right....the material may filter out a certain % of what it's designed to filter out...what I saw was what was leaking between my mask and my glasses. Not to mention the other unseen leaks around the edges. What does that do to your "filtering out about 50% of your exhale and about 10-20% of your inhale" numbers?

You also said..."People who refuse to wear masks are being ultra-selfish and that is not what God's Word teaches us to be.".....As you know from my post I wear a mask where required.
My point is people like you think mask make you practically bullet proof. But the facts tell us there's a huge chink in your armor. You fail to see it or admit it.

What's "misleading, at best" is the numbers you posted...they didn't include the leaks.