horrible blasphemous thoughts

[SarahsKnight]

@SarahsKnight is cursing God blaspheme against the Holy Spirit

No. But if you did it purposefully and have no remorse, then, I would be worried. But I don't see why you ever would have done it purposefully. Did you simply have a bad thought that sounded like cursing God, like the thought of "I hate you God" or something like that?

 

[SarahsKnight]

@Eso, you're OKAY. I believe with all of my heart that the Spirit has told me for your sake that you are a believer and you have done nothing to blaspheme the Holy Spirit or God or Jesus Christ. By the words of 1 John 4:1-3, I promise you that the Holy Spirit and no other has said you are saved and you have done nothing unforgivable, EVEN if you said something aloud in your frustration and anger over your problem that was a curse against God. IT'S OKAY. May God curse me too as a lying and hate-filled unbeliever if I am lying to you now about the Holy Spirit telling me for your sake that you are saved.

And let me tell you, I don't say that kind of thing lightly. I certainly do not want to ask anything about anyone else's heart (like I just did concerning you) from the Holy Spirit lightly or casually, either. Perhaps the only reason I would ever even be told this thing about you and once one other person (who suffered similarly to you in the past and talked about his problem on CF) is because I suffered from it once too and wanted to help others who still do so badly that God granted me this merciful gift in spite of my sins, so that I may comfort the sufferers. Admonishment and comfort are of the Holy Spirit, not condemnation and intimidation. And if you need further proof that I speak the truth in saying that you are not condemned regardless of whatever you have thought or done or said because at heart you do believe in Christ and do not want these bad thoughts about Him, then I tell you this now: If that wasn't the Holy Spirit who answered my plea just now for your sake, to tell me from His own mouth that you are saved, then the words of 1 John 4:1-3 - about to how tell the Holy Spirit from an antichrist spirit - are a lie and were not meant to be taken exactly as they say. And I refuse to believe that such a passage from Scripture would trick its readers in any way or be an outright lie. If I can't trust 1 John 4:1-3 to mean exactly what it says, then I can't trust any Scripture at all and there would thus be no reason to believe that there was ever a Savior who died and rose again for my sins in the first place.

This is a hard road you must unfortunately travel for now. It's just another form of OCD, albeit, a very hurtful one, and you are not truly at heart doing, saying, or thinking bad things against God. .... If you were? Why then would you ever have felt any kind of fear or guilt over it?

 

[Eso]

@Eso, you're OKAY. I believe with all of my heart that the Spirit has told me for your sake that you are a believer and you have done nothing to blaspheme the Holy Spirit or God or Jesus Christ. By the words of 1 John 4:1-3, I promise you that the Holy Spirit and no other has said you are saved and you have done nothing unforgivable, EVEN if you said something aloud in your frustration and anger over your problem that was a curse against God. IT'S OKAY. May God curse me too as a lying and hate-filled unbeliever if I am lying to you now about the Holy Spirit telling me for your sake that you are saved.

And let me tell you, I don't say that kind of thing lightly. I certainly do not want to ask anything about anyone else's heart (like I just did concerning you) from the Holy Spirit lightly or casually, either. Perhaps the only reason I would ever even be told this thing about you and once one other person (who suffered similarly to you in the past and talked about his problem on CF) is because I suffered from it once too and wanted to help others who still do so badly that God granted me this merciful gift in spite of my sins, so that I may comfort the sufferers. Admonishment and comfort are of the Holy Spirit, not condemnation and intimidation. And if you need further proof that I speak the truth in saying that you are not condemned regardless of whatever you have thought or done or said because at heart you do believe in Christ and do not want these bad thoughts about Him, then I tell you this now: If that wasn't the Holy Spirit who answered my plea just now for your sake, to tell me from His own mouth that you are saved, then the words of 1 John 4:1-3 - about to how tell the Holy Spirit from an antichrist spirit - are a lie and were not meant to be taken exactly as they say. And I refuse to believe that such a passage from Scripture would trick its readers in any way or be an outright lie. If I can't trust 1 John 4:1-3 to mean exactly what it says, then I can't trust any Scripture at all and there would thus be no reason to believe that there was ever a Savior who died and rose again for my sins in the first place.

This is a hard road you must unfortunately travel for now. It's just another form of OCD, albeit, a very hurtful one, and you are not truly at heart doing, saying, or thinking bad things against God. .... If you were? Why then would you ever have felt any kind of fear or guilt over it?

Thank you so much @SarahsKnight i pray that God bless you i am so relived when I was reading this thank you

 

[SarahsKnight]

Thank you so much @SarahsKnight i pray that God bless you i am so relived when I was reading this thank you

Yes, just remember, God already knows that your bad thoughts about Him distress you, He knows that you do not want or like them in any way, so please try to remain calm whenever they appear and just pray without worry or fear that He will heal you in time, and that any bad thoughts will lessen and eventually disappear.

I have been heavily praying for you, Sister. Because none of us here want to see you suffer this.

 

[Eso]

Yes, just remember, God already knows that your bad thoughts about Him distress you, He knows that you do not want or like them in any way, so please try to remain calm whenever they appear and just pray without worry or fear that He will heal you in time, and that any bad thoughts will lessen and eventually disappear.

I have been heavily praying for you, Sister. Because none of us here want to see you suffer this.

Thank you

 

[Eso]

@Eso, you're OKAY. I believe with all of my heart that the Spirit has told me for your sake that you are a believer and you have done nothing to blaspheme the Holy Spirit or God or Jesus Christ. By the words of 1 John 4:1-3, I promise you that the Holy Spirit and no other has said you are saved and you have done nothing unforgivable, EVEN if you said something aloud in your frustration and anger over your problem that was a curse against God. IT'S OKAY. May God curse me too as a lying and hate-filled unbeliever if I am lying to you now about the Holy Spirit telling me for your sake that you are saved.

And let me tell you, I don't say that kind of thing lightly. I certainly do not want to ask anything about anyone else's heart (like I just did concerning you) from the Holy Spirit lightly or casually, either. Perhaps the only reason I would ever even be told this thing about you and once one other person (who suffered similarly to you in the past and talked about his problem on CF) is because I suffered from it once too and wanted to help others who still do so badly that God granted me this merciful gift in spite of my sins, so that I may comfort the sufferers. Admonishment and comfort are of the Holy Spirit, not condemnation and intimidation. And if you need further proof that I speak the truth in saying that you are not condemned regardless of whatever you have thought or done or said because at heart you do believe in Christ and do not want these bad thoughts about Him, then I tell you this now: If that wasn't the Holy Spirit who answered my plea just now for your sake, to tell me from His own mouth that you are saved, then the words of 1 John 4:1-3 - about to how tell the Holy Spirit from an antichrist spirit - are a lie and were not meant to be taken exactly as they say. And I refuse to believe that such a passage from Scripture would trick its readers in any way or be an outright lie. If I can't trust 1 John 4:1-3 to mean exactly what it says, then I can't trust any Scripture at all and there would thus be no reason to believe that there was ever a Savior who died and rose again for my sins in the first place.

This is a hard road you must unfortunately travel for now. It's just another form of OCD, albeit, a very hurtful one, and you are not truly at heart doing, saying, or thinking bad things against God. .... If you were? Why then would you ever have felt any kind of fear or guilt over it?

Sorry that you had to ask the Holy Spirit about me

 

[SarahsKnight]

Sorry that you had to ask the Holy Spirit about me

I didn't HAVE to. I wanted to, for your sake, to possibly bring you any measure of peace in your struggle, because I understand how much people suffer from OCD with blasphemous thoughts.

 

[Eso]

I didn't HAVE to. I wanted to, for your sake, to possibly bring you any measure of peace in your struggle, because I understand how much people suffer from OCD with blasphemous thoughts.

I really pray that God blesses you because you did bring me peace

 

[SarahsKnight]

I really pray that God blesses you because you did bring me peace

Thank you. The Lord bless you too. But please remember, this might not be the total end of your sickness, Eso. Please take our suggestions above on coping if bad thoughts ever return. Remember, God already knows that these thoughts distress you, so it's not like you need to "prove it" to Him by being distressed all over again in the future if bad thoughts return. Just brush them off, and take no stock in them.

 

[Eso]

Thank you. The Lord bless you too. But please remember, this might not be the total end of your sickness, Eso. Please take our suggestions above on coping if bad thoughts ever return. Remember, God already knows that these thoughts distress you, so it's not like you need to "prove it" to Him by being distressed all over again in the future if bad thoughts return. Just brush them off, and take no stock in them.

Okay, I will and thank you

 

[Mari17]

I don't know if i have ocd but i think i might have it cause i can relate to what you posted

If you have OCD/scrupulosity, it's important to get help for it when you need it. Therapy and/or medication can help some people, as well as just learning the mind strategies for dealing with it. If you ever need more help let me know, and I can point you toward some helpful resources.

 

[Eso]

If you have OCD/scrupulosity, it's important to get help for it when you need it. Therapy and/or medication can help some people, as well as just learning the mind strategies for dealing with it. If you ever need more help let me know, and I can point you toward some helpful resources.

Okay, thank you

 

[SnowTiger]

Today I thought some horrible thoughts about God's creation. Now I hear a voice in my head from God saying he will never answer my prayers again! Now I'm really upset!

 

[SarahsKnight]

Today I thought some horrible thoughts about God's creation. Now I hear a voice in my head from God saying he will never answer my prayers again! Now I'm really upset!

I doubt that voice about never answering your prayers again was from God, Snow Tiger. I really do.

 

[SnowTiger]

I doubt that voice about never answering your prayers again was from God, Snow Tiger. I really do.

Okay, I hope you are right. For some reason I was just really angry and inside my mind I said that I hated God. Afterward I felt really bad. I feel like I should have been happy with how life was. I shouldn't have been upset like I was.

 

[Eso]

Thank you. The Lord bless you too. But please remember, this might not be the total end of your sickness, Eso. Please take our suggestions above on coping if bad thoughts ever return. Remember, God already knows that these thoughts distress you, so it's not like you need to "prove it" to Him by being distressed all over again in the future if bad thoughts return. Just brush them off, and take no stock in them.

@SarahsKnight Hi, i tried doing what you said and brushing it off but it still makes me fear, I read that when you get the thoughts you should ask for forgiveness but that is saying that the thoughts are a sin. My head just can't stop saying that the pharisees said to Jesus. I have also read my bible and prayed which has helped a little but but when I am not focused on something the thoughts come i can't stop feeling guilt or scared because i feel like most things im doing is sin i try to hear from the Holy Spirit to talk to me if that will help. I just can't get rid of it i'm trying to ignore it but i can't its really hard i don't want these thoughts and I don't want to din against God but these thoughts are just still in my head.I really want God to talk to me but i can't with these thoughts in my head i can't even focus on anything else sorry.

 

[SarahsKnight]

@SarahsKnight Hi, i tried doing what you said and brushing it off but it still makes me fear, I read that when you get the thoughts you should ask for forgiveness but that is saying that the thoughts are a sin. My head just can't stop saying that the pharisees said to Jesus. I have also read my bible and prayed which has helped a little but but when I am not focused on something the thoughts come i can't stop feeling guilt or scared because i feel like most things im doing is sin i try to hear from the Holy Spirit to talk to me if that will help. I just can't get rid of it i'm trying to ignore it but i can't its really hard i don't want these thoughts and I don't want to din against God but these thoughts are just still in my head.I really want God to talk to me but i can't with these thoughts in my head i can't even focus on anything else sorry.

I'm sorry, Eso, I know this is downright torturous for you but you have to keep trying to not let the thoughts bother you. I know it sucks to have to live with them, especially when you are trying to pray and talk to God, but the thoughts won't just go away forever overnight. Even I still have a bad thought about what the Pharisees said about Jesus or a curse against the Holy Spirit flash through my mind on occasion. I hate that this condition exists and people who believe in Jesus Christ and want to love Him more have to suffer through it. Just hang in there, keep praying to God and trying not to let the bad thoughts ignite feelings of fear; they AREN'T the true you, Eso. I know it is hard, and quite frankly I would give half my savings away right this moment if I could make some kind of deal with God to sacrifice something of myself to make the problem completely go away for you or any other one person who suffers from OCD with blasphemous thoughts. I really would.

 

[Eso]

I'm sorry, Eso, I know this is downright torturous for you but you have to keep trying to not let the thoughts bother you. I know it sucks to have to live with them, especially when you are trying to pray and talk to God, but the thoughts won't just go away forever overnight. Even I still have a bad thought about what the Pharisees said about Jesus or a curse against the Holy Spirit flash through my mind on occasion. I hate that this condition exists and people who believe in Jesus Christ and want to love Him more have to suffer through it. Just hang in there, keep praying to God and trying not to let the bad thoughts ignite feelings of fear; they AREN'T the true you, Eso. I know it is hard, and quite frankly I would give half my savings away right this moment if I could make some kind of deal with God to sacrifice something of myself to make the problem completely go away for you or any other one person who suffers from OCD with blasphemous thoughts. I really would.

I try not to let the thoughts bother me but I keep thinking it's a sin that can't be forgiven and that is what fears me the most i'm trying to stop thinking about that first. I also keep praying to God like you said but i usually have to cut the prayer short or say it really fast before the thought pops into my head,I have really tried my best to do what you said but i can't stop thinking about hell and i don't know what to do

 

[SarahsKnight]

I try not to let the thoughts bother me but I keep thinking it's a sin that can't be forgiven and that is what fears me the most i'm trying to stop thinking about that first. I also keep praying to God like you said but i usually have to cut the prayer short or say it really fast before the thought pops into my head,I have really tried my best to do what you said but i can't stop thinking about hell and i don't know what to do

I'm sorry you have to go through this, Eso. I really am. I know, I promise you I know what you mean, when you go through trying to just pray to God without these blasted thoughts interrupting and stealing what joy you might find. I will keep praying for your peace and healing, but I fear it might ultimately be for a time you must endure this, but I know, I KNOW God is with you in this, not against you. Even when your feelings tell you He is not.

 

[Eso]

I'm sorry you have to go through this, Eso. I really am. I know, I promise you I know what you mean, when you go through trying to just pray to God without these blasted thoughts interrupting and stealing what joy you might find. I will keep praying for your peace and healing, but I fear it might ultimately be for a time you must endure this, but I know, I KNOW God is with you in this, not against you. Even when your feelings tell you He is not.

Okay, thank you, do you think that God will forgive me for these thoughts