horrible blasphemous thoughts

[Eso]

I know how you feel, just know that because you don't want these thoughts then they are not yours. You are really loved by Jesus and God loves you very much, if you ever want to talk you can message me. God bless you and Jesus is Lord.

Sometimes i start to think that it might be me because its anytime that I think of Jesus or God that the thoughts just pop up and I'm really scared

 

[God is good]

Sometimes i start to think that it might be me because its anytime that I think of Jesus or God that the thoughts just pop up and I'm really scared

I understand, it could also be that you're really devoted to the Lord Jesus and since these thoughts are just popping up they are not really yours. I have gone through the same thing as you but just remember how loved you really are and that nothing can separate us from God's love. God bless you and Jesus is Lord.

 

[JakeyB123]

Terrible thoughts, can either come from the heart (if you proceed in them) or if they simple happen and you didn't actually think it but it popped into your head randomly, is from the enemy. I heard of a guy that had a vision once and he saw a fiery dart of the adversary, and it hit his head but he didn't allow it to go in. When you react to it and you think on it, it goes in, and proceeds to other things. If when it happens we know we wouldn't think that on purpose, just ignore it because one giving into it leads to usually only negative things, and two, it's probably not even your thought in the first place. Heres the thing, if we look at a women with lust, that evil thought came out of our heart because we purposely did it. We know we did, then we ask for forgiveness and repent from it, but if a thought we absolutely hate pops into our head, we're like... wait what? It's simply not us but the enemy tempting us

 

[SarahsKnight]

I'm kinda experiencing the same thing that you are going through. I have horrible blasphemous thoughts that I don't want to think. I am really scared because I don't want to go to hell and I don't want to be punished. I also have horrible thoughts of hell most of the time i am always living in fear I'm so scared that I have committed blasphemy against the Holy Spirit because of these blasphemous thoughts that I don't want. I'm so scared because I don't want to be go to hell because of those thoughts someone please help me

Ultimately we can't help you, Eso, as in, just make it go away. I had to live these damned thoughts for a time, too, and it is hard to say exactly what brought me out of it. I guess it was just God's mercy and He decided that my trial was over sooner than others.

I know it is extremely rough to go through this, Eso, but all I can suggest to you is that you try not to let the thoughts bother you. The more fearful you are of God (this is the wrong kind of fear you have of God right now, a fear that He will punish you with eternal torment in hell for thoughts you can't even control) and the thoughts, the only greater tendency they will have to return. They are thoughts only; if you ever feel the slightest bit of guilt or fear over them, then I do not see how it could be true that being a blasphemer or hater of God or the Spirit is your true self or anything like that. It is also daunting to think of just letting the thoughts ride out when they start to assault your mind, because of course it will then be tempting to start worrying if you are only accepting them because you like the thoughts, but God knows the heart, and He knows that these times are painful for you, and that you are not a hater or blasphemer. He's seen and heard it all, my friend. It will torturous for a while just letting the thoughts come and go without resistance; it will be very hard to do, but God knows way better than you or any of us that you are only trying to make them go away because you love and believe in Jesus Christ (NOT because you secretly love or believe the blasphemous thoughts), and obsessing over the thoughts with fear is only provoking them to keep returning. That's just how the human mind works. But in time, with prayer, and trying your best not to let them scare you when they come, the thoughts should start to wane in frequency and you will begin to heal from this particular form of obsessive compulsive disorder.

That's all it is, Eso. Just another form of OCD. You aren't secretly evil and a hater of God. God knows that at heart you certainly do not want these thoughts or believe them. It is just your emotions going out of control.

 

[SarahsKnight]

Sometimes i start to think that it might be me because its anytime that I think of Jesus or God that the thoughts just pop up and I'm really scared

That's just it, though. Eso, they pop up. How can you be in control of that? It is either your own wayward emotions (and that is not intended to be condescending; I was totally the same way) or Satan himself simply trying to make you feel this way, that the blasphemous thoughts are the true you. But God knows better.

 

[Eso]

Ultimately we can't help you, Eso, as in, just make it go away. I had to live these damned thoughts for a time, too, and it is hard to say exactly what brought me out of it. I guess it was just God's mercy and He decided that my trial was over sooner than others.

I know it is extremely rough to go through this, Eso, but all I can suggest to you is that you try not to let the thoughts bother you. The more fearful you are of God (this is the wrong kind of fear you have of God right now, a fear that He will punish you with eternal torment in hell for thoughts you can't even control) and the thoughts, the only greater tendency they will have to return. They are thoughts only; if you ever feel the slightest bit of guilt or fear over them, then I do not see how it could be true that being a blasphemer or hater of God or the Spirit is your true self or anything like that. It is also daunting to think of just letting the thoughts ride out when they start to assault your mind, because of course it will then be tempting to start worrying if you are only accepting them because you like the thoughts, but God knows the heart, and He knows that these times are painful for you, and that you are not a hater or blasphemer. He's seen and heard it all, my friend. It will torturous for a while just letting the thoughts come and go without resistance; it will be very hard to do, but God knows way better than you or any of us that you are only trying to make them go away because you love and believe in Jesus Christ (NOT because you secretly love or believe the blasphemous thoughts), and obsessing over the thoughts with fear is only provoking them to keep returning. That's just how the human mind works. But in time, with prayer, and trying your best not to let them scare you when they come, the thoughts should start to wane in frequency and you will begin to heal from this particular form of obsessive compulsive disorder.

That's all it is, Eso. Just another form of OCD. You aren't secretly evil and a hater of God. God knows that at heart you certainly do not want these thoughts or believe them. It is just your emotions going out of control.

Thank you for this so much I feel relieved. I am also trying not to believe it and I am praying that the thoughts go away.

 

[SarahsKnight]

Thank you for this so much I feel relieved. I am also trying not to believe it and I am praying that the thoughts go away.

And we will pray with you , but again, take fair warning that it may not happen overnight. In fact you may still have to deal with it for a time, a year or two even, before they will completely go away, or at least so infrequently that you barely even notice them when they come up. Even if you do very well in following our practical advice, Eso. I am sorry it is this way, but again, unfortunately that is just how the human mind works. I can tell you right now that back when I was in distress over feeling like I was abandoned by God (or abandoned Him somehow even though I had no desire to) for other reasons than blasphemous thoughts, that fear and distress was the very reason why the first blasphemous thought against the Holy Spirit even popped into my head, of course only compounding my distress and making things into an even bigger OCD mind trap. It's like someone telling you not to think of a pink elephant or you will immediately be forever condemned to hell; what do you think is the very next thought that will come into your mind after hearing that? Regardless of how fearful you might be of hell, of course the very next thing you are going to think of is a pink elephant. It can scarcely be helped. (Personally, I think the eternal torment in hell doctrine is bogus and actually has very little Scriptural proof, myself, if that helps at all. And not for one second did abandoning that doctrine do anything to lessen or cheapen my faith in Jesus Christ as Savior, Son of God, and the only Way to eternal life and forgiveness of sins.)

 

[Eso]

And we will pray with you , but again, take fair warning that it may not happen overnight. In fact you may still have to deal with it for a time, a year or two even, before they will completely go away, or at least so infrequently that you barely even notice them when they come up. Even if you do very well in following our practical advice, Eso. I am sorry it is this way, but again, unfortunately that is just how the human mind works. I can tell you right now that back when I was in distress over feeling like I was abandoned by God (or abandoned Him somehow even though I had no desire to) for other reasons than blasphemous thoughts, that fear and distress was the very reason why the first blasphemous thought against the Holy Spirit even popped into my head, of course only compounding my distress and making things into an even bigger OCD mind trap. It's like someone telling you not to think of a pink elephant or you will immediately be forever condemned to hell; what do you think is the very next thought that will come into your mind after hearing that? Regardless of how fearful you might be of hell, of course the very next thing you are going to think of is a pink elephant. It can scarcely be helped. (Personally, I think the eternal torment in hell doctrine is bogus and actually has very little Scriptural proof, myself, if that helps at all. And not for one second did abandoning that doctrine do anything to lessen or cheapen my faith in Jesus Christ as Savior, Son of God, and the only Way to eternal life and forgiveness of sins.)

I have a question, as I am getting those unwanted blasphemous thought that is similar to what the Pharisees said to Jesus, is it a sin, I am not welcoming the thoughts and I am trying to fight it back by rebuking it but i am also scared that it might be a sin. I have also tried to look for people who God talks to to ask them if God is mad at me or to ask God to know my heart that I would not say all those things

 

[SarahsKnight]

I have a question, as I am getting those unwanted blasphemous thought that is similar to what the Pharisees said to Jesus, is it a sin,

Of course not. I am not even positive that Jesus was telling the Pharisees right away that they had already committed the unpardonable sin, but rather I believe it possible that He was warning them that they were close to doing so if they continued in their line of thinking (otherwise, if the Pharisees had already gone beyond any forgiveness from Christ, then I don't see why they would care if they had, thus why would Jesus even bother to tell them they had committed it in the first place? But that is just my speculation). So why would God condemn you for having thoughts that you do not even want? (And take heed, Eso, now that I have brought this up your mind may very well get so screwed up from the mere suggestion of what I just said that it might start telling you that you do want these particular thoughts, or that you do actually believe Jesus was casting out demons by the power of Satan rather than the good Holy Spirit. And if it makes you more afraid of having gone to a point of unforgiveness by merely having the thought, then of course the thought will persist and only torment you further.) So please try your best not to take stock in the bad thoughts, or even entertain the idea that these bad thoughts are the "true" you. Just try to ignore them and not get anxious. Again, does God take offense at every little thing the human mortal so far below Him does or thinks without His judging the human heart? No. He knows better than you do.

And I sincerely doubt He is the kind of God who will condemn a man anyway when that man does not want to hate Him or abandon Him, when that man is in distress at the thought of being estranged from God. I know of no such God in my time. Because if God were like that? I doubt He would even have cared enough about humans in the first place to send His own Son to die a painful and brutal death for our sins.

If you try to follow the practical advice I gave earlier about just trying to let the thoughts ride out whenever they come instead of going through a compulsive ritual of trying to pray them away in distress, God will know that it is not because you like the thoughts and welcome them, even you may feel and wonder sometimes that you do. Of course you don't like them or believe them. He knows you are just trying to find healing from them.

 

[Eso]

Of course not. I am not even positive that Jesus was telling the Pharisees right away that they had already committed the unpardonable sin, but rather I believe it possible that He was warning them that they were close to doing so if they continued in their line of thinking (otherwise, if the Pharisees had already gone beyond any forgiveness from Christ, then I don't see why they would care if they had, thus why would Jesus even bother to tell them they had committed it in the first place? But that is just my speculation). So why would God condemn you for having thoughts that you do not even want? (And take heed, Eso, now that I have brought this up your mind may very well get so screwed up from the mere suggestion of what I just said that it might start telling you that you do want these particular thoughts, or that you do actually believe Jesus was casting out demons by the power of Satan rather than the good Holy Spirit. And if it makes you more afraid of having gone to a point of unforgiveness by merely having the thought, then of course the thought will persist and only torment you further.) So please try your best not to take stock in the bad thoughts, or even entertain the idea that these bad thoughts are the "true" you. Just try to ignore them and not get anxious. Again, does God take offense at every little thing the human mortal so far below Him does or thinks without His judging the human heart? No. He knows better than you do.

And I sincerely doubt He is the kind of God who will condemn a man anyway when that man does not want to hate Him or abandon Him, when that man is in distress at the thought of being estranged from God. I know of no such God in my time. Because if God were like that? I doubt He would even have cared enough about humans in the first place to send His own Son to die a painful and brutal death for our sins.

If you try to follow the practical advice I gave earlier about just trying to let the thoughts ride out whenever they come instead of going through a compulsive ritual of trying to pray them away in distress, God will know that it is not because you like the thoughts and welcome them, even you may feel and wonder sometimes that you do. Of course you don't like them or believe them. He knows you are just trying to find healing from them.

Thank you for this. I am slowly trying my best and ignoring them

 

[Eso]

Wait does it really take a year or two to go away? I need to get rid of it before school starts because those thoughts are the only things in my head that I can't really focous on something else without freezing of scaredness

 

[SarahsKnight]

Wait does it really take a year or two to go away? I need to get rid of it before school starts because those thoughts are the only things in my head that I can't really focous on something else without freezing of scaredness

It may take along time, is all I am trying to say, Eso. But you cannot get scared or discouraged; that will only give the bad thoughts more edge. I will pray for your peace. If you start to worry about it taking too long to go away or that the bad thoughts coming at a bad time, they will only come back more. I know it is tough; it's agonizing sometimes, really, and I am sorry you are going through this, but you have to try to relax and not worry about them coming. And in the meantime, keep praying to God that He will heal you of this problem soon. But you must try not to be fearful as you pray - either fearful of bad thoughts returning or of God's anger at thoughts you can scarcely control or of "going to hell" - okay?

And please consider also going to a doctor about this and being candid about your problem. This is only a suggestion and may not be helpful to you specifically, but he may be able to help with prescribed medication. This certainly does not help everyone, but Sertraline for one assisted me quite a bit in beginning to recover in my final month or so of suffering from a problem very similar to yours, Eso. Ultimately, it is up to God's mercy as always, however.

 

[SarahsKnight]

I have everyone in the singles community here praying for you, @Eso , by the way.

 

[Eso]

I have everyone in the singles community here praying for you, @Eso , by the way.

Thank you so much and sorry my full name is esohe, eso is just my nickname. Thank you so much God bless you

 

[SarahsKnight]

Thank you so much and sorry my full name is esohe, eso is just my nickname. Thank you so much God bless you

Of course, Sister. Just remember, one day at a time, try to take it slow, easy, and not worry that it is the true you when the bad thoughts do come, no matter how you might be feeling at the moment. The Holy Spirit admonishes; He does not condemn. And it is possible that anti-anxiety medication can assist you with keeping calm and in control when the bad thoughts come (but it may only work on a case-by-case basis, so do not take too much stock in this particular suggestion), but ultimately it is up to God about when you will finally be brought out of this extremely dark time for you completely. Remember how much Job suffered and yet God was not against him; instead, He eventually brought Job out of the trial and restored even Job's tremendous losses.

 

[Eso]

Okay I will try

 

[Mari17]

I'm kinda experiencing the same thing that you are going through. I have horrible blasphemous thoughts that I don't want to think. I am really scared because I don't want to go to hell and I don't want to be punished. I also have horrible thoughts of hell most of the time i am always living in fear I'm so scared that I have committed blasphemy against the Holy Spirit because of these blasphemous thoughts that I don't want. I'm so scared because I don't want to be go to hell because of those thoughts someone please help me

Hi Esohe! I've had OCD since I was about eight years old, so I know how awful it can be! I would agree with some of the advice on here, which is to treat the intrusive thoughts as meaningless. See, what those of us with OCD do is process things a little bit differently; or rather, sometimes our brain gets a glitch in it and we're unable to process a thought as smoothly as a "normal" person. It's like our brain is always looking for something to get hung up on, so when we get a scary "what if" thought like "What if I committed the unpardonable sin?" our OCD brain goes "Yeah!! Here's something for you to be scared about!" Whereas a normal person would just think, "Oh, that's probably not likely," and would move on with their lives. But because our brains are pre-wired to want something to be anxious about, we become so terribly fearful of the "what if" that our normal reasoning process goes a little out of whack. We start hyper-analyzing the "what if" and become unable to think about it clearly. Then our brain starts dreaming up all sorts of reasons to keep us afraid - for example, by telling us that we actually mean the thoughts, that we maybe we want to do what we're afraid we did, and on and on. The best way to stop this cycle is to refuse to give into those urges to "figure out" the question. We have to realize that we CAN'T think about our obsessive issue clearly, because we're so afraid. If we refuse to do what our fear is telling us to do (the compulsions, such as asking over and over "Did I commit the unpardonable sin?" or trying to push away or cancel out "bad" thoughts) then we continue to strengthen the fear. But if we step out of that cycle, hard as it is, the anxiety eventually lessens and we are able to think clearly again. If you're still struggling, please feel free to pm me anytime!

 

[SarahsKnight]

ve had OCD since I was about eight years old, so I know how awful it can be! I would agree with some of the advice on here, which is to treat the intrusive thoughts as meaningless. See, what those of us with OCD do is process things a little bit differently; or rather, sometimes our brain gets a glitch in it and we're unable to process a thought as smoothly as a "normal" person. It's like our brain is always looking for something to get hung up on, so when we get a scary "what if" thought like "What if I committed the unpardonable sin?" our OCD brain goes "Yeah!! Here's something for you to be scared about!" Whereas a normal person would just think, "Oh, that's probably not likely," and would move on with their lives. But because our brains are pre-wired to want something to be anxious about, we become so terribly fearful of the "what if" that our normal reasoning process goes a little out of whack. We start hyper-analyzing the "what if" and become unable to think about it clearly. Then our brain starts dreaming up all sorts of reasons to keep us afraid - for example, by telling us that we actually mean the thoughts, that we maybe we want to do what we're afraid we did, and on and on.

Right there, nailed it. Please listen to this advice also, @Eso.

 

[Eso]

Hi Esohe! I've had OCD since I was about eight years old, so I know how awful it can be! I would agree with some of the advice on here, which is to treat the intrusive thoughts as meaningless. See, what those of us with OCD do is process things a little bit differently; or rather, sometimes our brain gets a glitch in it and we're unable to process a thought as smoothly as a "normal" person. It's like our brain is always looking for something to get hung up on, so when we get a scary "what if" thought like "What if I committed the unpardonable sin?" our OCD brain goes "Yeah!! Here's something for you to be scared about!" Whereas a normal person would just think, "Oh, that's probably not likely," and would move on with their lives. But because our brains are pre-wired to want something to be anxious about, we become so terribly fearful of the "what if" that our normal reasoning process goes a little out of whack. We start hyper-analyzing the "what if" and become unable to think about it clearly. Then our brain starts dreaming up all sorts of reasons to keep us afraid - for example, by telling us that we actually mean the thoughts, that we maybe we want to do what we're afraid we did, and on and on. The best way to stop this cycle is to refuse to give into those urges to "figure out" the question. We have to realize that we CAN'T think about our obsessive issue clearly, because we're so afraid. If we refuse to do what our fear is telling us to do (the compulsions, such as asking over and over "Did I commit the unpardonable sin?" or trying to push away or cancel out "bad" thoughts) then we continue to strengthen the fear. But if we step out of that cycle, hard as it is, the anxiety eventually lessens and we are able to think clearly again. If you're still struggling, please feel free to pm me anytime!

I don't know if i have ocd but i think i might have it cause i can relate to what you posted

 

[Eso]

@SarahsKnight is cursing God blaspheme against the Holy Spirit