Christopher
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hey guys,
I'm new here, but would like to offer some views and hopefully quick explanations,etc.
There is only one possibility scripturally....if rightly divided.... the sons of God /the daughters of men...refers to the lineage of seth and the lineage of Cain inter-marrying.
1st of all- demons are disembodied angels, so they cannot have intercourse with humans. @nd if they could satan could, and he would not have stopped post flood! God is sovereign... and he wasn't taken by surpirse and then needed to implement some plan to stop angels from mixibng with humans...neither were there 'elect' angels who fell for women,etc.
as for the scripture in Jude that was used to support this idea...verse 7 in context is not comparing the sins of the sodomites with angels...it is stating that there were other cities around sodom and gomorrah ( perhaps much like our suburbs ) that were involved in the sins of theses evidently greater and influenicing cities,nothing more. Then too, Jesus said that angels ( which would apply to fallen agenls - satan and the demons included) neither marry nor are given in marriage, which means they don't have sexual relations! It is not a part of their nature or existence...Christ created them so I figure he knows what they can and cannot do,don't you?
besides that, such notions as there being angelic/human offspring, demonic-man offspring, or even other humanoids other than those from adam and eve mixing together...destroys the most basic, and foundational doctrines of all of scripture, one that comes into play in the 1st few chapters of Genesis... depravity. The bible declares emphatically that all [mankind] is dead [depraved] in Adam.... it also declares that eve is the mother of all living .... so then everyone , evryman that has evr been born comes from Adam and eve...the only possibility then to stay true to the word of God is that seth and cain's children intermarried...else they are not all of Adam . The only exception is Jesus Christ born of woman...but not the seed of Adam, thus not depraved, he is the Son of God.
then if you consider the self stated purpose for the book of genesis " these are the genrations of Adam"... that is this is a record of the human race, it's depravity, that genealogy that would be narrowed down to the lineage of Messiah, the seed of the woman, who would bruise the serpents head...starting to make sense yet =).... then there is no question what is implied..from the genreal context to the specific passages.... the son's of God and the daughter's of men is metaphorical language for the two opposing lineages. The line of seth began again to call upon the name of the Lord = son's of God. the line of cain began to increase in more and more wickedness, thus as they intermarried the pure lineage began to be corruptted and wickedness overan the earth, but God gave favour to Noah! and the lineage of Christ from seth was preserved. a feat which would happen at least two other times throughout the OT..before the birth of Messiah.
hope that helps
Christopher
I'm new here, but would like to offer some views and hopefully quick explanations,etc.
There is only one possibility scripturally....if rightly divided.... the sons of God /the daughters of men...refers to the lineage of seth and the lineage of Cain inter-marrying.
1st of all- demons are disembodied angels, so they cannot have intercourse with humans. @nd if they could satan could, and he would not have stopped post flood! God is sovereign... and he wasn't taken by surpirse and then needed to implement some plan to stop angels from mixibng with humans...neither were there 'elect' angels who fell for women,etc.
as for the scripture in Jude that was used to support this idea...verse 7 in context is not comparing the sins of the sodomites with angels...it is stating that there were other cities around sodom and gomorrah ( perhaps much like our suburbs ) that were involved in the sins of theses evidently greater and influenicing cities,nothing more. Then too, Jesus said that angels ( which would apply to fallen agenls - satan and the demons included) neither marry nor are given in marriage, which means they don't have sexual relations! It is not a part of their nature or existence...Christ created them so I figure he knows what they can and cannot do,don't you?
besides that, such notions as there being angelic/human offspring, demonic-man offspring, or even other humanoids other than those from adam and eve mixing together...destroys the most basic, and foundational doctrines of all of scripture, one that comes into play in the 1st few chapters of Genesis... depravity. The bible declares emphatically that all [mankind] is dead [depraved] in Adam.... it also declares that eve is the mother of all living .... so then everyone , evryman that has evr been born comes from Adam and eve...the only possibility then to stay true to the word of God is that seth and cain's children intermarried...else they are not all of Adam . The only exception is Jesus Christ born of woman...but not the seed of Adam, thus not depraved, he is the Son of God.
then if you consider the self stated purpose for the book of genesis " these are the genrations of Adam"... that is this is a record of the human race, it's depravity, that genealogy that would be narrowed down to the lineage of Messiah, the seed of the woman, who would bruise the serpents head...starting to make sense yet =).... then there is no question what is implied..from the genreal context to the specific passages.... the son's of God and the daughter's of men is metaphorical language for the two opposing lineages. The line of seth began again to call upon the name of the Lord = son's of God. the line of cain began to increase in more and more wickedness, thus as they intermarried the pure lineage began to be corruptted and wickedness overan the earth, but God gave favour to Noah! and the lineage of Christ from seth was preserved. a feat which would happen at least two other times throughout the OT..before the birth of Messiah.
hope that helps
Christopher
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